CONSOOM VEHICLES
 
So, the ranges on these can be limited on the electrical side, maybe 50 miles, so this can allow people to drive a short distance (like commute to errands or work) on electric, but then if you go further you can rely on gas or if you want to go on a long road trip you can make use of the gas engine. And the "plug in" part allows you to plug in at home (to the grid or solar panels, etc.).
 
Sounds like the best of both worlds, is there a catch?
 
What do you think of the debate on gas powered vehicles versus electric or what are good use cases for each?
 
Just like eating bugs, I see some conservatives are against EVs for various reasons but I'm not sure I agree with them. Bugs are just food, and EVs are just vehicles. For me, I like the idea of having some solar panels and being energy independent. I'm ok with burning gas (not worried about the environment particularly) but it makes you dependent on countries that you may not want to do business with, and hypothetically could run out at some point (so we don't know how long we could rely on gas). EVs run quieter and even if they rely on burning coal at power plants, can't those power plants have good filters on them so there are less emissions than gas exhaust being expelled by cars everywhere?
 
So don't EVs have distinct benefits, or do you think this is just a ruse for some kind of reason?

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11 comments:
6 months ago 2 points (+2 / -0 ) 1 child
As long as it can go 300+ miles and be refilled with a gas can lets do it. Oh and no telemetry of any kind. My vehicles need to be air gapped
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6 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
If you can find what frequencies the telemetry uses, you can use a radio frequency generator to fry the telemetry circuits. You don't need the exact frequency; a close enough harmonic will work.
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6 months ago 1 point (+1 / -0 ) Edited 2022-05-06 07:06:06 1 child
kikes are pushing us into EVs, they only do that for more control.
  
They recently passed the infrastructure bill to fund a smart grid.
  
This is why they didn't want EVs in the 80-90s, they didn't have the control mechanisms down.
  
Now they are going to have a smart grid where they are going to control all the corridors that run a lot of traffic and chargers.
  
They are going to have the ability to shutdown parts of the grid strategically, stopping all movement.
  
   
On a micro level, all cars will have self driving and kill switches.
  
On a macro level, they will have instantaneous shutoff to electricity and charging stations, perhaps even individual chargers.
 
   
  
The problem with gasoline and diesel is that they are liquids, the liquid still flows and cannot be shutdown instantaneously like electricity.
  
  
Moreover, they do not want any single country to have all domestic abilities, the batteries and power electronics in those cars will likely be sourced elsewhere. Whereas with gasoline/diesel, you really can build it 100% domestic.
 
Overall you must think in terms of control to understand what they are doing, about to do, or what they could do.
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6 months ago 1 point (+1 / -0 )
> you must think in terms of control
 
yeah, that's why I thought EVs could be better: I can control my own energy supply with solar panels.
 
I agree that a lot of the "smart" and autonomous driving features will be or could be anti-features. Although there have been EVs for a century and it seems like they could be a practical mode of transportation.
 
It was suppressed for a while allegedly, like there was that documentary "who killed electric cars?". but yeah definitely good to be concerned now that governments are pushing EVs.
 
But still the OP example is both ev and gas powered so something different.
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6 months ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
>I'm ok with burning gas (not worried about the environment particularly)
 
Honestly, I really don't think CO2 is as big a problem for the environment compared to something such as... plastic, or India's giant waste problem they pump into their rivers, or everything China, or Africa. But no, it's the CO2. I mean, if the Earth really had such an oxygen rich atmosphere, then pumping more CO2 into it, for algae to eat and turn into oxygen would be nothing but a positive. MPG for cars would go up, people would become somewhat more efficient in everything they do. I honestly see adding more CO2 as nothing but a positive. At least within reason.
 
For now, I don't think electrical cars are the way to go until we A. get the infrastructure to support them up and running, B. make less expensive, longer lasting batteries, C. find a way to recycle or safely dispose of the batteries from them cheaply(this probably feeds back into infrastructure).
 
I don't mind the idea of hybrids. Using the benefits of both worlds is a great idea.
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6 months ago 3 points (+3 / -0 ) 1 child
flow batteries have a lot of potential for usage in the grid.
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6 months ago 1 point (+1 / -0 ) 1 child
It would probably still require a large infrastructure change, probably in the amount of $100B. That's not including the cost of flow batteries. Which, makes me wonder why we weren't already doing something like this.
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6 months ago 2 points (+2 / -0 ) 1 child
Before flow batteries required vanadium and some other difficult to get/unsavory materials. Now researchers found better materials that perform just as well, so it has been getting a lot of interest as of late. Its true that completely shifting the whole grid would cost a lot, but flow batteries are relatively cheap and it wouldnt be that crazy to setup some flow battery banks. At least it could be set up in a town/city by the municipal electricity provider and it could certainly be used in an off grid community
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6 months ago 1 point (+1 / -0 ) 1 child
You would also need to set them up in probably every town in the country if you wanted extra redundancy in case the electric grid goes down in a local area. If they really want to force everyone to go from gasoline to electric, it'll definitely be a shock to the whole system.
 
Something else I just thought of is it would probably require a massive increase in power production to keep up. So adding that, it would probably cost in the trillions of $ to keep up with demand if every car was electric. This would honestly be such a massive project. And they would probably use shitskins in every category to build it so it would probably fail after a few years. I just don't think it's currently feasible with the ethnic makeup of the country.
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6 months ago 2 points (+2 / -0 ) 1 child
America is dead and i dont expect it to undertake grandiose projects like this. Im mainly interested in this as a solution to the parallelsociety's electricity needs
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