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Consume Corvette.
The C8 was symbolically the end of the car industry/car enthusiast. A sub-$100k car that looks as almost/as good as/better than any of the super cars from the last 30 years regardless of price. Combined with electric cars that all accelerate 0-60 faster than any gas engine. There's no skill to anything anymore, just consume the latest car that is 0.1 sec faster on the quarter mile. Who gives a fucking shit.
I was genuinely confused by this reaction. I meant to post this over at c/Autohaus.
I'll say this in its defense: the C8 was benchmarked against the Ferrari 458 and 911 GT2 RS. GM actually bought those cars, ran them on-track, collected their own data, and even tore them down and reassembled them to learn everything they could. The Corvette team even examined Ferrari engine components on the Ferrari F136 V8 to guide their own development.
The result, as you said, was a sub-$100k sports car that looks as good or better than most super cars of the last 30 years, regardless of price. And it punches far above it's class, as the ZR1X outperforms most European hyper cars with price tags that literally exceed $1 million. That's a "little" fact that the Brits over at *Top Gear* need constant reminding of in the comments section.
The C8 is a very proud achievement for American engineering. It makes me proud to see them on the road and the track!
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Biggest problem with the c8 is that it doesn't have a stick shift. An automatic sports car is a fucking travesty in my opinion. What's the purpose of this? You drive a sports car for fun and driving engagement, why the hell would you take out manual transmissions?
But it makes sense I guess, it's a shift in consumer culture. But that leads to questioning the culture itself. Why do people want their sports car, a corvette, to feel like driving their fuck-ass automatic SUV that they have no actual use for? Or even if we go a step above to the truly wealthy, why do you want your Lamborghini to feel the same as driving a tesla or any other automatic car with semi-decent horsepower? There's no difference. A manual sports car feels much different than a manual econo-box, you get to fuck around with way taller gears and rev the hell out of it to a much higher red-line. You get to drop gears and really fuck with the acceleration. An automatic? Always the same, only the horsepower is different. Yeah I know, it has paddle shifters. Paddle shifters are lame as fuck unless it's an f1 car.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
I do appreciate the design, and I think it would have made waves if they had found a way to export it here.
But it's a half-assed effort for what it is. All the reviews note the same flaws: the interior is too plasticky and the Nissan engine is too anemic to make it a serious sports car. If I recall, one reviewer noted that a MINI S was more lively, but most noted that the Porsche Cayman did the job better and more affordably. It does *look* cool, however, and I did enjoy watching them race at Circuit Paul Ricard.
I like trucks and suvs because I am constantly hauling stuff and have lots of gear
Racing isn't really my thing especially on public roads. Just trying to get to destination. I'm the guy you're mad at because I set cruise control 5mph over the limit and you pass me and I don't care.
I like what trucks and suvs can do, but smaller cars which are light and closer down to the road just have a better body response with the low rotational inertia and lower center of gravity.
The C8 was symbolically the end of the car industry/car enthusiast. A sub-$100k car that looks as almost/as good as/better than any of the super cars from the last 30 years regardless of price. Combined with electric cars that all accelerate 0-60 faster than any gas engine. There's no skill to anything anymore, just consume the latest car that is 0.1 sec faster on the quarter mile. Who gives a fucking shit.
I'll say this in its defense: the C8 was benchmarked against the Ferrari 458 and 911 GT2 RS. GM actually bought those cars, ran them on-track, collected their own data, and even tore them down and reassembled them to learn everything they could. The Corvette team even examined Ferrari engine components on the Ferrari F136 V8 to guide their own development.
The result, as you said, was a sub-$100k sports car that looks as good or better than most super cars of the last 30 years, regardless of price. And it punches far above it's class, as the ZR1X outperforms most European hyper cars with price tags that literally exceed $1 million. That's a "little" fact that the Brits over at *Top Gear* need constant reminding of in the comments section.
The C8 is a very proud achievement for American engineering. It makes me proud to see them on the road and the track!
But it makes sense I guess, it's a shift in consumer culture. But that leads to questioning the culture itself. Why do people want their sports car, a corvette, to feel like driving their fuck-ass automatic SUV that they have no actual use for? Or even if we go a step above to the truly wealthy, why do you want your Lamborghini to feel the same as driving a tesla or any other automatic car with semi-decent horsepower? There's no difference. A manual sports car feels much different than a manual econo-box, you get to fuck around with way taller gears and rev the hell out of it to a much higher red-line. You get to drop gears and really fuck with the acceleration. An automatic? Always the same, only the horsepower is different. Yeah I know, it has paddle shifters. Paddle shifters are lame as fuck unless it's an f1 car.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
I'd rather have an Alpine A110, it's very light and looks much better imo.
It's priced like a Porsche 911 but has a 1.8L engine out of a Nissan. It doesn't make any sense.
I like it from a design standpoint, and I like how it maintains it's heritage in a modern era.
But it's a half-assed effort for what it is. All the reviews note the same flaws: the interior is too plasticky and the Nissan engine is too anemic to make it a serious sports car. If I recall, one reviewer noted that a MINI S was more lively, but most noted that the Porsche Cayman did the job better and more affordably. It does *look* cool, however, and I did enjoy watching them race at Circuit Paul Ricard.
Racing isn't really my thing especially on public roads. Just trying to get to destination. I'm the guy you're mad at because I set cruise control 5mph over the limit and you pass me and I don't care.