2 months ago9 points(+0/-0/+9Score on mirror)2 children
If iran's new warship missiles force the USZOG navy to stay out of range then the missile is successful.
That said, never underestimate how retarded USZOG is or how willing israel is to take massive risks with the lives of US sailors.
I suspect iran will attempt to cause all US ships to flee so it can continue to move oil tankers for it's allies while the USZOG and EuropeZOG's economy and military waste their resources.
For example, iran's hypersonic missiles are forcing all of the USZOG aircraft carriers to stay 900 miles from iran because of the range of iran's hypersonics.
The US F-16 has a range of about 500 miles, which means it would need to attempt air refueling twice just to get close to iran and return. This gives iran more than enough warning to shoot it down.
The F-16 can be fitted with extra external fuel tanks to increase it's range to 1,500 miles, but it would still give iran about an hour warning and need to refuel and the extra weight would mean less missile payload. Iran would love to shoot down some US refueling aircraft too because they are slow easy targets and the US doesn't have many.
2 months ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)3 children
That means either Iran can sink US warships and will do so, or Iran cannot sink US warships and would if they could, or Iran cannot sink US warships and wouldn't do it. I assume you mean they would if they could immediately with certainty.
I mean you literally just need missiles that reach the ships. They are large, easy targets. However it is reasonable to assume it's not in Iran's best interest to heat up a war with the US, even if they have the upper hand. Right now the optics are strongly in favor of Iran, and the US appears desperate to lick the drool from kikes as it obediently started the war by killing 170 children and triple tapping them to kill rescuers. If anything, this way Iran can force its way to make Americans realize their true masters are kikes.
That's essentially the story of the USS Liberty, with the twist that it was a failed false flag attack. Unlike 9/11... which was a successful false flag attack.
2 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
I think it would be good optics for Iran to sink a US warship. They wouldnt want to strike a cilivilan target, as that would just reinforce the narative about them being the bad guys; and US domestic suport for an invasion would massively increase. If they sunk a warship however, it would give them much greater military credibility, and the US has destroyed more than enough of their stuff the justify (military) retaliation. The world would see it as "shooting back" not agression.
Also, hitting a warship with a missile is quite difficult. Modern warships have a multiple layers of different extremely expensive and high performance interceptor missiles, and then point defense machine guns if you get through all that. The only 2 ways Iran could realistically do it would be a *massive* saturation strike to deplete the interceptors. Or a very stealthy and very lucky approach with a boat or semi-submersible suicide drone. Iran doesn't have anywhere close to the level of stealth technology needed to sneak up on a US warship by air.
Edit: Saturation strike wouldn't even work, as Iran would not be able to get enough launchers within range of a US ship without being detected via satalite and struck first.
2 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
> I think it would be good optics for Iran to sink a US warship.
That depends. The US would greatly benefit in vilifying Iran. Unless there is a good reason, Iran should not do it. Which is likely also how they think about it.
> and US domestic suport for an invasion would massively increase
Yes, and that's not a desirable outcome. Iran would still have a lot of casualties, and the US would bomb the shit out of civilians. The victory would come at a hefty price.
> The world would see it as "shooting back" not agression.
Probably, yes. So Iran has options.
> The only 2 ways Iran could realistically do it
Well, or the uninterceptible missile referenced by OP. I wouldn't be surprised if just a little additional speed couldn't penetrate anti-missile defences anyway, or reducing their detectability, possibly by removing electromagnetic clutter, or just have them shut off mid-flight once they have the ideal movement vector to hit "dumb" (as they move downwards).
> Saturation strike wouldn't even work
It also sounds like a waste of resources, and Iran knows how to fight the US by having them expend 50-100+ times the cost for weaponry.
I agree on your last point. The part of US doctrain that is outdated is the focus on small numbers of extremely expensive high performance weapons. It looks good in limited engements when they kick the shit out of lesser militaries, but against a near-equal, the stocks would be depleted almost immediately.
Iran knows this but I dont think they have the production capacity to capitalize on it, even with each engagement being massively more costly for the US than for Iran. The US also knows it and is trying to adapt. New interceptors are in development that at less than 1/10th the cost of the previous generation. It remains to be seen if this will actually come to fruition without the military industrial complex bloating the project for more profit.
2 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
I don't think it's about midterm elections. It's about eroding the US economy slowly, and weaken its geopolitical position. The uniparty doesn't matter at all. Both parties do whatever israel wants.
ZOG USA navy ships are just floating brothels for judeophile trannies. jews and their bodyguards will litter the bottom of the sea to the bottom of the next sea.
One $150,000 iranian missile strike on the deck of a $40 billion USZOG aircraft carrier will disable it for 4 years of refit, cost $3 billion and kill 2,000 sailors (not all at first, but the blast overpressure fucks all your organs and survivors don't survive for long).
Iranian hypersonics can't be intercepted.
This one missile was almost certainly intended as a warning to USZOG to keep their battleships out of hypersonic missile range of iran. Perhaps so iran can resume moving their ally oil tankers to China.
2 months ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)3 children
You don't understand: there is no difference between ZOG military and israeli military.
Iran has strategically targeted the most dangerous jew sites first, which is the US military bases.
The entire moslem middle east is so scared of allowing USZOG from launching from their soil and getting their power and desalination infrastructure destroyed by iran, that USZOG has been driven out of everywhere except Qatar.
We could never afford to rebuild all of those bases and the moslem host nations would never allow it.
Every other US military base in the middle east has been completely destroyed or so badly damaged they have been abandoned. No more radars for the jew.
The last stand will be israel.
USZOG military have already started relocating to israel.
What iran has done is genius:
* Driven the US out of the muslim middle east.
* Taught the moslem nations that a military alliance with USZOG is death by iranian missiles - far more costly than it's worth.
* United the moslem nations under the new Mecca Defense Alliance mutual defense pact, meaning EVERYONE attacks israel if israel attacks one of them.
* Used a huge stockpile of old iranian missile technology to deplete 98% of the US missile defenses, leaving the Iron Dome useless and every US base and boat vulnerable.
* Destroyed the US and European economy by blockading their oil.
Keep in mind that israel dies screaming if their power infrastructure is destroyed using 8 iranian missiles or if their desalination plants are all destroyed with 6 iranian missiles. Also, if israel goes dark then the desalination plants won't work either.
Iran has built a robust distributed command structure. There is no leadership to decapitate and it is very difficult to get Intel on where their assets are.
2 months ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
That's true, but most people don't appreciate how iran is strategically destroying the most dangerous targets first, which are almost entirely the USZOG military bases and their missile and radar systems.
I still think iran will slow-walk their war of attrition until just before the US midterms as a fuck-you to Trump. That or they'll wait a little longer to devastate the US and European economy.
2 months ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
We are achieving absolute kike annihilation without lifiting a finger for “now”. Our old once fully White Aryan people are doing the heavy lifting for us. While the goy slop cattle boomers continue sucking kike dick.
2 months ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
China is playing an enormous part by minimizing it's oil use to prevent widespread global starvation.
I do feel shame that the White race aren't leading this war against the jew, but none of this would have been achievable if White nationalists hadn't been jew-pilling the world for generations.
October 7 was the spark but it was us who prepared the kindling.
2 months ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
Another thing that comes to mind with all the middle east countries being so scared to let jews/amerikikes launch attackes from there countries is no matter what they do they are absolutely fucked catch 22. They blow up their water treatment plants the Muslim countries go into civil war the governments get exterminated total kike death follows. They don’t they still achieve absolute shlomo annihilation.
I'm especially looking forward to watching the Saudi-Arabian arab population eat the House of Saud ZOG jew LARPers.
Soon there will be no resistance and I suspect iran will help support them. I wouldn't be surprised if the Saudi military are already discussing this with iran.
You don't understand: iran could sink US Destroyer class warships with their hypersonic missiles, but it would take a handful to get a lucks shot to cause massive internal damage to multiple isolated compartments for it to sink.
This missile is designed to penetrate ship hulls and explode and burn everything inside.
It's more effective than standard hypersonic for killing ships and as a psychological deterrent.
Being able to killing 300 - 500 US sailors and sink a Destroyer class with one missile is a powerful psychological weapon to keep the US military outside of iranian missile range, this giving iran plenty of notice about incoming bombers, missiles and ships.
That said, never underestimate how retarded USZOG is or how willing israel is to take massive risks with the lives of US sailors.
I suspect iran will attempt to cause all US ships to flee so it can continue to move oil tankers for it's allies while the USZOG and EuropeZOG's economy and military waste their resources.
For example, iran's hypersonic missiles are forcing all of the USZOG aircraft carriers to stay 900 miles from iran because of the range of iran's hypersonics.
The US F-16 has a range of about 500 miles, which means it would need to attempt air refueling twice just to get close to iran and return. This gives iran more than enough warning to shoot it down.
The F-16 can be fitted with extra external fuel tanks to increase it's range to 1,500 miles, but it would still give iran about an hour warning and need to refuel and the extra weight would mean less missile payload. Iran would love to shoot down some US refueling aircraft too because they are slow easy targets and the US doesn't have many.
The US navy is fucked.
I'm unsure israel can risk such a false flag without backfiring instantly.
I mean you literally just need missiles that reach the ships. They are large, easy targets. However it is reasonable to assume it's not in Iran's best interest to heat up a war with the US, even if they have the upper hand. Right now the optics are strongly in favor of Iran, and the US appears desperate to lick the drool from kikes as it obediently started the war by killing 170 children and triple tapping them to kill rescuers. If anything, this way Iran can force its way to make Americans realize their true masters are kikes.
Also, hitting a warship with a missile is quite difficult. Modern warships have a multiple layers of different extremely expensive and high performance interceptor missiles, and then point defense machine guns if you get through all that. The only 2 ways Iran could realistically do it would be a *massive* saturation strike to deplete the interceptors. Or a very stealthy and very lucky approach with a boat or semi-submersible suicide drone. Iran doesn't have anywhere close to the level of stealth technology needed to sneak up on a US warship by air.
Edit: Saturation strike wouldn't even work, as Iran would not be able to get enough launchers within range of a US ship without being detected via satalite and struck first.
That depends. The US would greatly benefit in vilifying Iran. Unless there is a good reason, Iran should not do it. Which is likely also how they think about it.
> and US domestic suport for an invasion would massively increase
Yes, and that's not a desirable outcome. Iran would still have a lot of casualties, and the US would bomb the shit out of civilians. The victory would come at a hefty price.
> The world would see it as "shooting back" not agression.
Probably, yes. So Iran has options.
> The only 2 ways Iran could realistically do it
Well, or the uninterceptible missile referenced by OP. I wouldn't be surprised if just a little additional speed couldn't penetrate anti-missile defences anyway, or reducing their detectability, possibly by removing electromagnetic clutter, or just have them shut off mid-flight once they have the ideal movement vector to hit "dumb" (as they move downwards).
> Saturation strike wouldn't even work
It also sounds like a waste of resources, and Iran knows how to fight the US by having them expend 50-100+ times the cost for weaponry.
Iran knows this but I dont think they have the production capacity to capitalize on it, even with each engagement being massively more costly for the US than for Iran. The US also knows it and is trying to adapt. New interceptors are in development that at less than 1/10th the cost of the previous generation. It remains to be seen if this will actually come to fruition without the military industrial complex bloating the project for more profit.
The C-RAMS on these ships can handle one or two missiles, they probably can't stop a dozen missiles.
Iran may be playing a waiting game for the US midterm elections. As if it will matter.
American politics are just kayfabe for goys; Israeli politics still reflect reality, and that's where decisions are made.