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13 hours ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
From a Catholic perspective, no. Catholics are not justified in declaring war on Jews as a people.
Catholicism permits vigorous opposition to actual errors, injustices, ideologies, organizations, or governments. We can oppose rabbinic Judaism theologically, Zionism politically and theologically, usury economically, pornography morally, or a particular Israeli policy, and oppose the Jews that push it, but this doesn't mean we can advocate making them military targets. Collective racial or religious guilt does not turn civilians into legitimate military targets.
Catholic just-war doctrine is also not “we believe this group threatens us, therefore we may attack it.” Public authority may use force against a genuine aggressor under stringent conditions of necessity, proportionality, discrimination between combatants and innocents, and a just intention aimed at restoring peace. Private individuals certainly have no authority to announce a racial or religious war.
Scripture itself rules out hatred as the Christian response. St. Paul warns Gentile Christians concerning unbelieving Israel: “Boast not against the branches” (Romans 11:18), and immediately reminds them that the natural branches can be grafted in again (Romans 11:23). He even foretells Israel's future conversion: “And so all Israel should be saved” (Romans 11:26). The traditional Catholic objective is therefore ultimately conversion, not extermination.
And Christ commands something considerably harder than destroying those we regard as enemies: “Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you: and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you” (Matthew 5:44).
None of that requires religious indifferentism or pretending that every political accusation is false. Investigate particular claims. Name particular offenders. Name the Jew. Oppose demonstrable injustice. Prosecute crimes through lawful authority. Defend innocent people against actual aggression when necessary. Refute Judaism where it contradicts Christ. Educate people on the enmity. But do not use it to justify war against an entire people, where individual Jews could convert if we missionized instead.
Declaring war is neither Catholic justice nor the Adversus Judaeos tradition. The Church's controversy with unbelieving Judaism is ordered toward the triumph of Christ and the salvation of souls—not a racial war.
12 hours ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
That leaves nations defenseless against the evil of the Jew because Jews wage war using proxies while claiming to be innocent victims.
Israel, for example, shows a civilian population polling where over 80% hunger for the murder of every last Palestinian child.
I suspect the actual numbers is closer to 95% given some Jews are aware of the need to pretend to not be demonic monsters as a weapon of controlled opposition.
These civilians vote for evil and get their US proxies to do the killing for them.
These civilians host extravagant banquets so they can film themselves gorging in celebration of Gazan children starving to death a mile away.
People who host pancake parties to express joy at children being deliberately crushed under bulldozers.
Who wage more war than anyone else in human history.
And use "one simple trick" loophole of proxies to render Catholic crusaders impotent to stop their evil.
This is how I interpret what you describe as the Catholic perspective on war.
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And that's the cross:
See? As Christians we cannot do evil that good comes from it. We must do good for good's sake. Does this mean our enemies will take advantage of us? Yes. And we must choose martyrdom when this happens.
As Tertullian said: "the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church."
Take up your cross. Carry it. And follow Jesus to Calvary. This will be your Salvation.
11 hours ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
If you're in the position to defend little children from Jews, then yes, there's nothing wrong with that. And there's also nothing wrong with feeling righteously angry at these injustices that these depraved Jews are committing.
But what you're talking about, unless I am mistaken, is that as a private individual you can declare war on Jewry itself and be essentially a vigilante. You're not in a position of authority over a sovereign state, and neither am I. You're not the Pope either, and neither am I. It sucks, but we have to humble ourselves to proper authorities, and pray they do their jobs. Also, we are more than within our rights to publicly speak out against these injustices and to criticize our leaders who do not exercise their authority to do the just thing, as I do in my videos. But we cannot usurp authority, nor can we engage in vigilante justice. That crosses the line into putting ourselves into a position of authority that God didn't grant us, and even if we have good intentions, we shall be damned for doing so.
>You're not in a position of authority over a sovereign state
You literally refer to yourself as The Catholic State.
What is stopping Catholicism from waging another Crusade against the Synagogue of Satan?
>You're not the Pope either
No, but the Catholic Pope is.
>But we cannot usurp authority
You have free will, do you not?
>nor can we engage in vigilante justice
We're discussing a Crusade justice, not vigilante justice.
Would you consider over a billion Catholics being moved by the Holy Spirit to protect women, children and the human race from the Synagogue of Satan, to be vigilantism, irrespective of the claims of a pedo-protecting-Pope who claimed puppies go to heaven [Pope Francis]?
Self defense, and defense of the innocent is not evil. To truly love Christ and His church is to protect it from harm by any means necessary. And true martyrdom means you fear only God's judgment, not the consequences of anything that is of this world.
Catholicism permits vigorous opposition to actual errors, injustices, ideologies, organizations, or governments. We can oppose rabbinic Judaism theologically, Zionism politically and theologically, usury economically, pornography morally, or a particular Israeli policy, and oppose the Jews that push it, but this doesn't mean we can advocate making them military targets. Collective racial or religious guilt does not turn civilians into legitimate military targets.
Catholic just-war doctrine is also not “we believe this group threatens us, therefore we may attack it.” Public authority may use force against a genuine aggressor under stringent conditions of necessity, proportionality, discrimination between combatants and innocents, and a just intention aimed at restoring peace. Private individuals certainly have no authority to announce a racial or religious war.
Scripture itself rules out hatred as the Christian response. St. Paul warns Gentile Christians concerning unbelieving Israel: “Boast not against the branches” (Romans 11:18), and immediately reminds them that the natural branches can be grafted in again (Romans 11:23). He even foretells Israel's future conversion: “And so all Israel should be saved” (Romans 11:26). The traditional Catholic objective is therefore ultimately conversion, not extermination.
And Christ commands something considerably harder than destroying those we regard as enemies: “Love your enemies: do good to them that hate you: and pray for them that persecute and calumniate you” (Matthew 5:44).
None of that requires religious indifferentism or pretending that every political accusation is false. Investigate particular claims. Name particular offenders. Name the Jew. Oppose demonstrable injustice. Prosecute crimes through lawful authority. Defend innocent people against actual aggression when necessary. Refute Judaism where it contradicts Christ. Educate people on the enmity. But do not use it to justify war against an entire people, where individual Jews could convert if we missionized instead.
Declaring war is neither Catholic justice nor the Adversus Judaeos tradition. The Church's controversy with unbelieving Judaism is ordered toward the triumph of Christ and the salvation of souls—not a racial war.
Israel, for example, shows a civilian population polling where over 80% hunger for the murder of every last Palestinian child.
I suspect the actual numbers is closer to 95% given some Jews are aware of the need to pretend to not be demonic monsters as a weapon of controlled opposition.
These civilians vote for evil and get their US proxies to do the killing for them.
These civilians host extravagant banquets so they can film themselves gorging in celebration of Gazan children starving to death a mile away.
People who host pancake parties to express joy at children being deliberately crushed under bulldozers.
Who wage more war than anyone else in human history.
And use "one simple trick" loophole of proxies to render Catholic crusaders impotent to stop their evil.
This is how I interpret what you describe as the Catholic perspective on war.
See? As Christians we cannot do evil that good comes from it. We must do good for good's sake. Does this mean our enemies will take advantage of us? Yes. And we must choose martyrdom when this happens.
As Tertullian said: "the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church."
Take up your cross. Carry it. And follow Jesus to Calvary. This will be your Salvation.
Only He can save us.
God bless!
Allowing little children to be hurt... feels ungodly.
Every part of my soul feels like God created me NOT to allow that.
But what you're talking about, unless I am mistaken, is that as a private individual you can declare war on Jewry itself and be essentially a vigilante. You're not in a position of authority over a sovereign state, and neither am I. You're not the Pope either, and neither am I. It sucks, but we have to humble ourselves to proper authorities, and pray they do their jobs. Also, we are more than within our rights to publicly speak out against these injustices and to criticize our leaders who do not exercise their authority to do the just thing, as I do in my videos. But we cannot usurp authority, nor can we engage in vigilante justice. That crosses the line into putting ourselves into a position of authority that God didn't grant us, and even if we have good intentions, we shall be damned for doing so.
You literally refer to yourself as The Catholic State.
What is stopping Catholicism from waging another Crusade against the Synagogue of Satan?
>You're not the Pope either
No, but the Catholic Pope is.
>But we cannot usurp authority
You have free will, do you not?
>nor can we engage in vigilante justice
We're discussing a Crusade justice, not vigilante justice.
Would you consider over a billion Catholics being moved by the Holy Spirit to protect women, children and the human race from the Synagogue of Satan, to be vigilantism, irrespective of the claims of a pedo-protecting-Pope who claimed puppies go to heaven [Pope Francis]?