You are viewing a single comment's thread. View all
0
devotech2 on scored.co
30 days ago0 points(+0/-0)1 child
Caucasian hunter gatherers = half of the dna of PIE = white. Caucasus hunter gatherers were literally west Asian. Their genetic makeup also contributes to levantine people. But Europeans also get it because of PIE. Obviously Caucasians have the most of it.
Also on the topic of west asians, oh boy do I have some news for you regarding EEF.
West Asian =/= arab by the way. And white =/= european (at least in regards to archaeogenetics). About 80% of european dna comes from outside of Europe, and that's on the low end of the spectrum. For most people outside of the baltics it's more like 90%. Europe is a tiny part of eurasia, during the ice age it was also the most inhospitable part of it (save for siberia). It only logically tracks that groups from elsewhere in Eurasia would take advantage of Europe's newfound arability and habitability after the ice age ended.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
>EEF clusters closer genetically with modern europeans than middle easterners due to the hunter gatherer admixture.
Theres another side effect to that and thats that Middle easterners are mixed with sub saharan African dna. Nigger dna is so far removed from every other population that even the smallest percentages in the middle east can and does throw them off significantly from where they should be. Still, southern europeans cluster in between Northern Europeans and levantines. Which reflects their higher EEF blood. And even with all of that, there's yet another side effect to that and that's founder effect. EEF alone makes up the majority of the blood of Europeans. Over time they changed significantly, they themselves represented a distinct population before they went into Europe. 11000 years meant more genetic drift. And the mixing went two ways. The eef started existence as ANF in anatolia. Some of them back-migrated to the much more densely populated middle east and others went to the much more sparsely populated Europe. It also depends on where in Europe. ANF in the balkans completely replaced WHG. But were more mixed in other locations.
>when people think of white they think of Europe
They're wrong. Europe is all white but not all whites are european. My personal view is that if someone is descended from any of the major groups that make up white Europeans, without admixture from completely different races, they can reasonably be called white. There are pashtun tribes of blonde haired blue eyed individuals who have 0 WHG or EEF dna ( (besides the random bits and pieces of it that exists in PIE sometimes) because they aren't anywhere near Europe, but they have almost entirely PIE and caucasian blood. Can they integrate into European society? Almost definitely not. Are they ethnically the same as Europeans? No. Are they white? I'd say so.
>ANE
Was not pure west eurasian at all. Quite literally the least west eurasian population thats in the mix. ANE started life as being, essentially, just WHG, Gravettian, but received 25% (roughly) admixture from tianyuan. As well as paternal dna. There's a reason that haplogroup R is clustered more closely with Q, N, and O than it is with J, I, G, or E (the west eurasian haplogroups). This does not make them asiatic per se, as tianyuan was basal east asian. From the exact moment that there was even a genetic distinction between east and west eurasian. But it does change the dna of ANE significantly.
>Both CHG and ANF
The eef introduced that dzudzuana dna into Europe. The yamnaya introduced it again with CHG. Most of the European gene pool today comes from dzudzuana based populations.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
What do they even mean by that? "European hunter gatherer". Western hunter gatherer is unlikely. Eastern hunter gatherer is the other half of PIE that isnt CHG, so that one is obvious and a given. But EHG is a strong divergence from WHG because of ANE, despite being partly WHG themselves they are quite distinct and also carry entirely different haplogroups.
Plus there's an entirely different issue that I never brought up, but that's where in the caucasus are we talking about? Georgia is an enclave of almost entirely CHG. However south Russia has significant levels of PIE and WHG (not a lot of whg, but in comparison to Georgia a much higher level). They are both in the caucasus. Both of these groups are majority CHG, but one is less CHG and more related to other Europeans. They all look exactly the same phenotypically, except for Armenians, who ironically have higher levels of PIE than Georgians. All of these groups get lumped under the west Asian category because they all have very different archaeogenetics with the exception of the CHG component and dna compilers have issues with them.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed.
Also on the topic of west asians, oh boy do I have some news for you regarding EEF.
West Asian =/= arab by the way. And white =/= european (at least in regards to archaeogenetics). About 80% of european dna comes from outside of Europe, and that's on the low end of the spectrum. For most people outside of the baltics it's more like 90%. Europe is a tiny part of eurasia, during the ice age it was also the most inhospitable part of it (save for siberia). It only logically tracks that groups from elsewhere in Eurasia would take advantage of Europe's newfound arability and habitability after the ice age ended.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
Theres another side effect to that and thats that Middle easterners are mixed with sub saharan African dna. Nigger dna is so far removed from every other population that even the smallest percentages in the middle east can and does throw them off significantly from where they should be. Still, southern europeans cluster in between Northern Europeans and levantines. Which reflects their higher EEF blood. And even with all of that, there's yet another side effect to that and that's founder effect. EEF alone makes up the majority of the blood of Europeans. Over time they changed significantly, they themselves represented a distinct population before they went into Europe. 11000 years meant more genetic drift. And the mixing went two ways. The eef started existence as ANF in anatolia. Some of them back-migrated to the much more densely populated middle east and others went to the much more sparsely populated Europe. It also depends on where in Europe. ANF in the balkans completely replaced WHG. But were more mixed in other locations.
>when people think of white they think of Europe
They're wrong. Europe is all white but not all whites are european. My personal view is that if someone is descended from any of the major groups that make up white Europeans, without admixture from completely different races, they can reasonably be called white. There are pashtun tribes of blonde haired blue eyed individuals who have 0 WHG or EEF dna ( (besides the random bits and pieces of it that exists in PIE sometimes) because they aren't anywhere near Europe, but they have almost entirely PIE and caucasian blood. Can they integrate into European society? Almost definitely not. Are they ethnically the same as Europeans? No. Are they white? I'd say so.
>ANE
Was not pure west eurasian at all. Quite literally the least west eurasian population thats in the mix. ANE started life as being, essentially, just WHG, Gravettian, but received 25% (roughly) admixture from tianyuan. As well as paternal dna. There's a reason that haplogroup R is clustered more closely with Q, N, and O than it is with J, I, G, or E (the west eurasian haplogroups). This does not make them asiatic per se, as tianyuan was basal east asian. From the exact moment that there was even a genetic distinction between east and west eurasian. But it does change the dna of ANE significantly.
>Both CHG and ANF
The eef introduced that dzudzuana dna into Europe. The yamnaya introduced it again with CHG. Most of the European gene pool today comes from dzudzuana based populations.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
Plus there's an entirely different issue that I never brought up, but that's where in the caucasus are we talking about? Georgia is an enclave of almost entirely CHG. However south Russia has significant levels of PIE and WHG (not a lot of whg, but in comparison to Georgia a much higher level). They are both in the caucasus. Both of these groups are majority CHG, but one is less CHG and more related to other Europeans. They all look exactly the same phenotypically, except for Armenians, who ironically have higher levels of PIE than Georgians. All of these groups get lumped under the west Asian category because they all have very different archaeogenetics with the exception of the CHG component and dna compilers have issues with them.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed.