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To start, I've always subscribed to the Low T is a problem "faction". I'd be taking supplements, going to the gym, eating red meat (carnivore dieting), etc... to up my T levels. I always imagined it was a problem but I've never had evidence to decide just how much of a problem it was until now.

I started injecting Testosterone. I wasn't cycling (traditional steroids) though it was borderline. Instead, I just took enough that would lead to roughly 1200 ng/dl. Now, society says this is peak teenage levels of T (currently) but some research I've done suggests this was what the average man once had in the past (before soyciety took over).

Either way, I was compelled to make this topic because I've done it twice now over the last couple months and the difference is unbelievable. Depression? Gone. My reflexes are better, my alertness is higher, my thinking is clearer, my balance is better, my motivation is higher, my sex drive is higher (but it's the complete opposite of a gooner sex drive. This isn't a simp, women control me, sex drive. This is a, I want to fuck and I'll take what I want, sex drive,), my recovery from working out is better, my strength is higher and my endurance is better. It's a night-and-day difference too. This isn't some subtle supplement difference. This is like I injected heroin but instead of losing myself in my own world, I am ready to face this world.

Whatever the conspiracy is, it's no wonder they want men with lower T levels. I feel like I would be better at anything I did and far more focused and motivated at doing it. I think most of our problems would vanish if every White man's T levels increased.
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Niemo on scored.co
8 hours ago 9 points (+0 / -0 / +9Score on mirror ) 3 children
I have a theory as well... You've heard about women's period syncing when they live together? I believe that groups of men elevate each others testosterone when they are doing intense aggressive things together.
LandoNorris on scored.co
7 hours ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
This makes sense to me biologically. When you’re around other males you have more “competition” and therefore your body may produce more testosterone.

If you hang around with women and soyboys with no competition then why would your body bother to produce a lot of T.

Your body only does the things it absolutely needs to do, it’s not going to waste energy producing something it thinks you don’t need
Niemo on scored.co
2 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
When I spend time around other rougher sorts of guys I find myself getting more aggressive etc and more competitive. Maybe its placebo but I think my body starts to produce more T in order to compete and fit in.

I did a sailing course with this ex navy seal guy who was incredibly coarse, severe, and uncompromising and he kept pushing me to finish the material faster and better, like barking at me and shit, I hated the dude, but by the end of it I felt a lot more masculine. He was like "you're smart enough, let's do this 48 hour thing in 12 hours, stfu let's go, what are you doing?! Do it right!" Like constantly. If he wasn't training me for free I would have been out of there. But saved me like 2000$ and he was cool. Just an asshole.
LandoNorris on scored.co
1 hour ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Yeah totally agree. Unfortunately it’s the opposite for me, I'm married but don’t have any real friends or social activities. My drive and energy are super low. My emotions are meh.

It’s harder to find groups like you mention the older you get.
Censored1488 on scored.co
4 hours ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
The age old saying: “Iron sharpens iron”

I would add, why would my body bother hardening its iron if I only hang around with wooden sticks, or in other words, faggots?
Niemo on scored.co
2 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Haha this is so true.
Time4aCrusade on scored.co
5 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
That's interesting and might explain why prisoners often get so jacked without any supplements. While they do have more time to workout, the results are very different from other populations, regardless of race.
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
9 hours ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
Testosterone is modulated by a LOT of factors.
Most of it is resolved (over a period of several months), by ensuring your pituitary, thyroid, liver, and kidneys are working optimally. Unfortunately, people have bought this Judaic nutrition nonsense of “calories in calories out”.
We have an ancestrally appropriate diet and none of it involves synthetic food stuff, chemicals, additives, or uncooked vegetables.
 
Case in point: oxalate accumulation is a very serious problem for your thyroid and kidneys. Your body was or use much oxalic acid and as such, it will use magnesium, calcium or other bivalent cations to bind it and store it in tissue.
When you run out of places to store it, your body starts putting it in organs.

Eat enough spinach and almond smoothies and you start accumulating literal glass inside your tesricles, kidneys, thyroid, brain, and liver.

End result: low hormone output.
Eat meat and eggs. Take in ans much potassium, magnesium and trace minerals as you can handle. Exercise when you feel the need to (which should be often).

they-see-me-trollin on scored.co
8 hours ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
CICO is just a foundational rule. it's not false. it's just not complete. your body is a biochemical motor with a biochemical battery, converting food into energy, both immediately available and stored. if you consume and burn 2000 calories, there are different byproducts depending on what you ate. you can choose good byproducts or worse byproducts.
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
7 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
So how many calories of kerosene can I consume before I put on weight?

How many jumping jacks are required to burn off 45 grams of couch cushion?

Since birth control and antibiotics are effectively 0kcal, I can ingest 2 kilograms and not get fat after, right?

Why can I weigh 200 lbs, eat 2kg of beef a day (2880 kcal x3 = 8,400 kcal), a stick of butter (880 kcal) and weigh 177 lbs after 3 months with less physical activity?
they-see-me-trollin on scored.co
6 hours ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 2 children
you're fucking retarded... literally proving my point.
HerrBBQ on scored.co
4 hours ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
He is actually fucking retarded though. Don't engage with him. He'll often bring up solid points (like most of his first comment) and then mix in a retarded conclusion like "calories are judaic nonsense" or "viruses aren't real". He's a classic example of someone who's devolved from healthy skepticism into illogical contraryism.
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
6 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
That’s cool. So how many?
TallestSkil on scored.co
6 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
You completely (and purposely?) missed his point, which he explicitly noted before you even replied. I don’t get why.
TallestSkil on scored.co
6 hours ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
>I think Low T is a bigger problem than people realize.

Well, yeah.

It’s kept pretty quiet, but many white men are basically infertile now. [Purposeful](https://archive.md/zMm3J) poison put [into](https://archive.is/72vxx) the [food](https://archive.is/4h7Kb) and [water](https://archive.is/IdQGo) supplies have [destroyed](http://archive.md/jB24O) our [healthy](https://web.archive.org/web/20190106173511/http://www.apiindia.org/medicine_update_2013/chap185.pdf) hormonal [expression](https://archive.fo/lxrRL). We have, on average, less than [half](https://archive.fo/qFwiF) the [testosterone](https://archive.is/b7eVH) of men just 80 [years](https://archive.fo/lTwgT) ago (HMM I WONDER WHY THAT WOULD BE THE CUTOFF). Our sperm [basically](https://archive.md/drX5H) don’t [exist](http://archive.is/UonYU), nor does the [expression](https://archive.fo/S8cPs) of our psychology which led us to create the greatest civilization in the world. We do absolutely nothing [whatsoever](https://archive.is/gd60c) about the destruction of our homes, the corruption of our women, and the rape of our children, where historically we would have exterminated the jews down to the last unborn child for so much as daring to do this.

Meanwhile, the entirety of our [society](https://archive.fo/qZEBm) exists solely to [destroy](https://archive.fo/zfdDU) the psychological and social expression of traditional masculinity. The APA has [declared](https://web.archive.org/web/20190630043230/https://www.apa.org/about/policy/boys-men-practice-guidelines.pdf) “traditional masculinity” to be a mental illness. Male children are purposely prevented from behaving as men behave, which makes it impossible for them to comprehend how to raise a family in a non-jewish manner.

# ***We’ve been [psychologically](https://archive.org/details/YuriBezmenovDeceptionWasMyJob) and physically castrated.*** Even the people who know about this, like us, do absolutely nothing to stop it.
el_hoovy on scored.co
1 hour ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
> Even the people who know about this, like us, do absolutely nothing to stop it.

man, speak for yourself. you know full well there's people who try their damndest, like Thomas Sewell who IIRC even did jailtime, you just equate not immediately assassinating every president in the west to "not doing anything." you have a quarter of a point, and it's why things aren't moving as fast as both of us would like, but to jump straight to absolutely nothing, forever, is just that psychological castration you have going on speaking, not your White soul and intellect. i beg you man, remember who you are. you're clearly intelligent and capable from what you post here sometimes, you're just so stuck in this loop of posting "hard truths" that you forget to use all those neurons for good, like a perfect self-fulfilling prophecy.
TallestSkil on scored.co
46 minutes ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
> you just equate not immediately assassinating every president in the west to "not doing anything."

Reductio ad absurdum.
HerrBBQ on scored.co
4 hours ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Low T is very obviously a wide problem, as seen by the collapse of masculine behaviors. The solution is less obvious. There's a few causes that stand out, like birth control hormones accumulating in the water supply or the increased consumption of phytoestrogens from plant-based foods, but I'm confident in my belief that this is a multi-faceted problem. Social norms, the economy, the environment, chemicals in manufacturing, and probably many other things, are all contributing to low T. There certainly isn't one simple solution.

>I started injecting Testosterone

Please don't do this. If you need to be explained why this is a bad idea, then you don't understand enough about biology to be doing something like this anyway...
steele2 on scored.co
12 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 3 children
Your T will be fine if you don't be fat and train.

If you can't get to a gym then go for a 45 minute run before sunrise and push yourself HARD.

You'll get to work with your blood still racing and your legs wobbly but your testosterone will be strong and you'll feel great.
CaptainTrouble on scored.co
12 hours ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 1 child
That's exactly what I thought. I'm 175, 5'10", worked out 4 days a week, ate right... it's not even close to the same.
PurestEvil on scored.co
11 hours ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 4 children
The problem is to permanently increase it. If you inject yourself externally with testosterone, your body ceases to produce it itself, or produces less. This either leads to an ever increasing dependence, as the body will produce less and less to seek its desired value.

It's possible it will rebound over time to produce it itself, but the point is that it will rebound to "normal" ultimately. Trannies take estrogen, which causes them to become also more masculine as their bodies seek to compensate it. It makes them become weird abominations.

Is there a solution to this problem (not for the trannies, nobody cares about those)?
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
9 hours ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
To permanently increase test production? Eat nothing but animal products (beef, eggs, fat, butter) and water for three months.
This actually heals your tissues and organs and dumps out all the accumulated crap.
jayreed on scored.co
8 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Enclomiphene
whatlike_withacloth on scored.co
5 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 2 children
And here I was just going to say "clomiphene/clomid" but now I've learned something new.
jayreed on scored.co
5 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Glad I could help!

I've been deep diving on PEDs and peptides lately.

I am going to try to get the most I can without suppression or side effects.

For fat loss, Reta is amazing BTW. And with less fat you'll also get less aromatization of T
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CaptainTrouble on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
The solution is to keep taking T. But realistically, you have to get a prescription for it and monitor your overall health because the biggest issue with taking T is too high of Estrogen levels which then require you to compensate for with other drugs. You can also take hCG to keep your balls working but that increases estrogen further. So, basically you're always going to be doing a bunch of drugs to stay at an optimal level of T. That's the tradeoff I guess.
whatlike_withacloth on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>Is there a solution to this problem

Not a drug-free one. You can optimize your test levels through diet, exercise, and sleep, but they will continue to decline as you age (beginning around age 30). Your whole body degrades, then you die, even your HPGA organs.

As @jayreed said - enclomiphene is the way to maximize "natural" testosterone through stimulation of the pituitary. "Natural" in quotes because the test is coming from your testes, so it's homegrown, but you're still taking drugs to stimulate the homegrown test production.
LandoNorris on scored.co
7 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
I’m not fat and I lift weights 3-4 times per week (I’m middle aged) and when I got my T tested I was in the 400’s.

Dr said that was normal but I think that’s low. Ideally I’d like to be in the 700’s.

Doing those two things will keep your T from being super low but you need to do more than that to be optimal
jayreed on scored.co
8 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Enclomiphene
Tourgen on scored.co
8 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
yeah, agree. average T levels have been dropping for decades. it's not just men being on avg fatter and more sedentary either. there is more too it and it is so very convenient for certain groups wishing to feminize, sissy-fy society and turn men into beaten down SIMPs
jayreed on scored.co
8 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Enclomiphene seems to have no major downside and keeps your natural production.

Direct T injections are okay, but could make you sterile amongst other issues.
CaptainTrouble on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 2 children
Never heard of Enclomiphene but it appears to have been discontinued? Must have been too effective.
jayreed on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Huh, discontinued?

I hate gatekeeping doctors, so don't bother with that route anyway.

You can literally buy it from bulk chemical suppliers. Lol
jayreed on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Yeah, see now what you're saying. Never got FDA approval.

Like the FDA gives 2 shits about men's health. Probably exactly like you're saying -- too effective.

If you do a little digging, the stuff can get you to supra natural levels even if you're testes aren't in bad shape.

Like 500->1200+, but then you have all the issues from excess estrogen. So I'm just targeting 7-900 myself.
CaptainTrouble on scored.co
4 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Interesting. You take it orally too, no injection? Might be a better route for TRT. Injections seem better for cycling.
jayreed on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Yeah, it's like a miracle drug almost.

There's a guy that talks about this stuff a lot.

NattyPlus or something. I'm sure you can find him from that.

Edit: Here's a video.
https://youtu.be/bgo4xRARWfk?si=Oeh6M99f2t8u8VtW
CaptainTrouble on scored.co
4 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Interesting, I may give that a go. Looks like estrogen production doesn't go as high as with injections too. Really really weird the drug companies abandoned it. You have more details on that? Seems like a conspiracy to me as if the drug proved safe enough, nearly ever guy would be on it.
BlackPillBot on scored.co
6 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Kind of relevant

https://youtu.be/pwFpDTFySuA
IGOexiled on scored.co
6 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
If you can't get your T up you can still be dangerous by leaning into the feminine forms of fighting.

Irrationality and unpredictability, fingernails and groin attacks, screeching and psychological warfare, the Tazmanian devil.

IHateHomosexuals on scored.co
3 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
1) https://illimitableman.wordpress.com/2017/08/31/a-mans-guide-to-testosterone-replacement-therapy/

2) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34083035-estrogeneration
Hoobeejoo on scored.co
3 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Be careful with TRT. It can destroy your body's ability to make testosterone naturally.
wankingisgay on scored.co
8 minutes ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Doing t shots is pathetic. Gg crushing your balls


And why do you eunch delete your old topic and make a new one?
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ScallionPancake on scored.co
8 hours ago -1 points (+0 / -0 / -1Score on mirror ) 1 child
> Depression? Gone

> my motivation is higher

> This is like I injected heroin but instead of losing myself in my own world, I am ready to face this world.

This is precisely why I'm saying sad boy /u/tallestskil needs to get on TRT ASAP.
TallestSkil on scored.co
8 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>shrink your testicles, goyim!

>chemically alter your perception in a world where *that’s not the fucking problem!*

lol, imagine telling people to be *happy* about the current state of things.
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ScallionPancake on scored.co
7 hours ago -3 points (+0 / -0 / -3Score on mirror ) 1 child
Whatever excuse to remain a terminally low T soyboy?
TallestSkil on scored.co
7 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>[random strawman]

See, this is why you get universally mocked. You can’t defend anything you say. Even your attacks against other users are indefensible because you don’t even have the pretense of evidence for what you say.
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ScallionPancake on scored.co
7 hours ago -3 points (+0 / -0 / -3Score on mirror ) 1 child
Defend the fact that you're low T? Every post you make is proof.

When is the last time you hit the gym?
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TallestSkil on scored.co
6 hours ago -1 points (+0 / -0 / -1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>[random lies, STILL CAN’T DEFEND OWN CLAIMS]

Neato. Reply again.
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Censored1488 on scored.co
4 hours ago -1 points (+0 / -0 / -1Score on mirror ) 1 child
How do you get testosterone to inject in the first place? Is it a prescription? Is it some shady deal in the gym locker room?
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CaptainTrouble on scored.co
4 hours ago -1 points (+0 / -0 / -1Score on mirror )
You can order it online or you can go through some steps by asking your doctor to prescribe you some.
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