Love your enemies means pray for them. Not let them roll over you.
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“Love thy neighbor “ does not mean “let non-white foreign invaders take over your country.
Possible meaning of "enemies" in context:
* Romans
* Greeks
* Samaritans
In the parable of the good Samaritan jesus taught that the neighbor God commanded them to love are the Samaritans.
The jews were the bad guys in the OT and the NT
* Romans
* Greeks
* Samaritans
In the parable of the good Samaritan jesus taught that the neighbor God commanded them to love are the Samaritans.
The jews were the bad guys in the OT and the NT
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Matthew 5:39:
> Do not resist an evil person.
Oof. 🤭
Do you realize that Christianity was *overwhelmingly* pacifist for the first 250 years of its existence? That didn't change until large scale state power through Constantine made that posture a little too inconvent. But before that, the original Christians followed the most straightforward reading of Christ's teachings, which is unambiguous nonviolence.
What did the church fathers have to say?
> A soldier in command must be told not to kill people; if he is ordered so to do, he shall not carry it out. Nor should he take the oath. If he will not agree, he should be rejected.
-Hippolytus
> Christ, in disarming Peter, disarmed every soldier thereafter.
-Tertullian
> We who once hated and destroyed one another, and on account of our different manners **would not live with men of a different tribe, now since the coming of Christ live familiarly with them,** pray for our enemies, and endeavour to persuade those who hate us unjustly to live conformably to the good teachings of Christ…
-Justin Martyr
> Christians have changed their swords and their lances into instruments of peace, and they know not now how to fight.
-Irenaeus
> It is not lawful for a Christian to bear arms for any earthly consideration.
-Marcellus
> I am a soldier of Christ; it is not permissible for me to fight.
-Martin of Tours
> Above all, Christians are not allowed to correct with violence the delinquencies of sins.
-Clement
There's more where that came from, but you get the picture.
Absolutely nutters how all you self-proclaimed "pattern recognizers" shut that part of your brains right back off when it comes to this one specific topic, despite the fact that Christianity has done (and continues to do) more for jewish interests than all of Hollywood combined.
> Do not resist an evil person.
Oof. 🤭
Do you realize that Christianity was *overwhelmingly* pacifist for the first 250 years of its existence? That didn't change until large scale state power through Constantine made that posture a little too inconvent. But before that, the original Christians followed the most straightforward reading of Christ's teachings, which is unambiguous nonviolence.
What did the church fathers have to say?
> A soldier in command must be told not to kill people; if he is ordered so to do, he shall not carry it out. Nor should he take the oath. If he will not agree, he should be rejected.
-Hippolytus
> Christ, in disarming Peter, disarmed every soldier thereafter.
-Tertullian
> We who once hated and destroyed one another, and on account of our different manners **would not live with men of a different tribe, now since the coming of Christ live familiarly with them,** pray for our enemies, and endeavour to persuade those who hate us unjustly to live conformably to the good teachings of Christ…
-Justin Martyr
> Christians have changed their swords and their lances into instruments of peace, and they know not now how to fight.
-Irenaeus
> It is not lawful for a Christian to bear arms for any earthly consideration.
-Marcellus
> I am a soldier of Christ; it is not permissible for me to fight.
-Martin of Tours
> Above all, Christians are not allowed to correct with violence the delinquencies of sins.
-Clement
There's more where that came from, but you get the picture.
Absolutely nutters how all you self-proclaimed "pattern recognizers" shut that part of your brains right back off when it comes to this one specific topic, despite the fact that Christianity has done (and continues to do) more for jewish interests than all of Hollywood combined.
>Do not resist an evil person.
>Oof. 🤭
Thanks for purposely misreading the line, ***precisely how every single jew does.*** Let’s look at what it actually says, Patrick Bateman.
>But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite the on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. **~ Matthew 5:39**
What did He mean by this? It’s better translated as “do not diametrically oppose an evildoer” and the reason you were supposed to turn the other cheek is:
1. In antiquity, you only hit someone with your right hand (the clean one).
2. Backhands were to insult, a frontal slap showed equality and challenge.
3. By turning your cheek, the aggressor was forced to stop hitting you or acknowledge you as an equal; that was quite a statement to a Roman by a conquered Judean.
Jesus was telling us to fight back smartly, using public shame as a weapon, not just attack head-on like a moron.
>ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὑμῖν μὴ ἀντιστῆναι τῷ πονηρῷ· ἀλλ’ ὅστις σε ῥαπίζει εἰς τὴν δεξιὰν σιαγόνα σου, στρέψον αὐτῷ καὶ τὴν ἄλλην·
First of all, ἀντιστῆναι, translated as “do not resist”, has more to it than ‘resist’. Strong’s Concordance at 436 notes “to take a complete stand against” and it derived from a military term to diametrically oppose one’s foes. Thayer’s notes “to set oneself against.” ‘Resist’ here is passive, but the term ἀντιστῆναι clearly denotes an aggressive posture. Better might be “But I say unto you, do not square off against an evildoer.” Especially in the context of the examples all being examples of how to engage in intelligent resistance.
“Give him your cloak, too” is Christ referencing Exodus 22:26 to shame your opponent. Exodus 22:26 compels creditors to return the cloak at night so that the poor can sleep in it. By giving up your cloak, you shame the creditor who is willing to sue for your tunic–and God will hear the cries of the debtor. As for walking the extra mile, that’s a reference to the Roman law of impressment which allowed a Roman soldier to compel a person of a conquered state to carry his pack for one mile, but no further. By carrying it the second mile, the soldier would be forced to comically beg you to put it down lest his commanding officer see and he get in trouble. So it clearly does not mean “don’t fight back”–it means to fight back smartly.
This is what happens when people try to read scripture with no reference for the history or culture in which it was written. Remember, Christ taught us to fight smartly, not to not fight. Of course a Christian fights against evil! How could we not?
>Oof. 🤭
Thanks for purposely misreading the line, ***precisely how every single jew does.*** Let’s look at what it actually says, Patrick Bateman.
>But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite the on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. **~ Matthew 5:39**
What did He mean by this? It’s better translated as “do not diametrically oppose an evildoer” and the reason you were supposed to turn the other cheek is:
1. In antiquity, you only hit someone with your right hand (the clean one).
2. Backhands were to insult, a frontal slap showed equality and challenge.
3. By turning your cheek, the aggressor was forced to stop hitting you or acknowledge you as an equal; that was quite a statement to a Roman by a conquered Judean.
Jesus was telling us to fight back smartly, using public shame as a weapon, not just attack head-on like a moron.
>ἐγὼ δὲ λέγω ὑμῖν μὴ ἀντιστῆναι τῷ πονηρῷ· ἀλλ’ ὅστις σε ῥαπίζει εἰς τὴν δεξιὰν σιαγόνα σου, στρέψον αὐτῷ καὶ τὴν ἄλλην·
First of all, ἀντιστῆναι, translated as “do not resist”, has more to it than ‘resist’. Strong’s Concordance at 436 notes “to take a complete stand against” and it derived from a military term to diametrically oppose one’s foes. Thayer’s notes “to set oneself against.” ‘Resist’ here is passive, but the term ἀντιστῆναι clearly denotes an aggressive posture. Better might be “But I say unto you, do not square off against an evildoer.” Especially in the context of the examples all being examples of how to engage in intelligent resistance.
“Give him your cloak, too” is Christ referencing Exodus 22:26 to shame your opponent. Exodus 22:26 compels creditors to return the cloak at night so that the poor can sleep in it. By giving up your cloak, you shame the creditor who is willing to sue for your tunic–and God will hear the cries of the debtor. As for walking the extra mile, that’s a reference to the Roman law of impressment which allowed a Roman soldier to compel a person of a conquered state to carry his pack for one mile, but no further. By carrying it the second mile, the soldier would be forced to comically beg you to put it down lest his commanding officer see and he get in trouble. So it clearly does not mean “don’t fight back”–it means to fight back smartly.
This is what happens when people try to read scripture with no reference for the history or culture in which it was written. Remember, Christ taught us to fight smartly, not to not fight. Of course a Christian fights against evil! How could we not?
That's a lot of words to completely miss my point.
I'm not arguing that Christianity has *always* been overwhelmingly pacifist. I'm not arguing it is impossible to reinterpret Jesus's teachings as non-pacifist through rigorous exegesis (although your interpretation is still enforcing *nonviolence,* which is at least soft pacifism as far as I'm concerned.)
I'm arguing that this is not the default reading, and using the earliest large scale Christian movement—spanning over two centuries—as the evidence. Virtually none of them interpreted the sermon on the mount as clever rebellion. They treated it as a literal prescription to nonviolence, which is why they refused to be soldiers, resist those who sought to kill them, or use weapons for any reason.
I'll ask you the same questions that the other user refused to answer: Were the original progenitors of the faith all heretics? Why were they dogmatic pacifists if Jesus wasn't teaching pacifism?
It's ironic you claim I make no reference to the history of culture of the time when it is the crux of my position. All those church fathers I quoted are significantly closer to the time of Jesus than any figure you can find advocating a violent interpretation of Christianity.
I'm not arguing that Christianity has *always* been overwhelmingly pacifist. I'm not arguing it is impossible to reinterpret Jesus's teachings as non-pacifist through rigorous exegesis (although your interpretation is still enforcing *nonviolence,* which is at least soft pacifism as far as I'm concerned.)
I'm arguing that this is not the default reading, and using the earliest large scale Christian movement—spanning over two centuries—as the evidence. Virtually none of them interpreted the sermon on the mount as clever rebellion. They treated it as a literal prescription to nonviolence, which is why they refused to be soldiers, resist those who sought to kill them, or use weapons for any reason.
I'll ask you the same questions that the other user refused to answer: Were the original progenitors of the faith all heretics? Why were they dogmatic pacifists if Jesus wasn't teaching pacifism?
It's ironic you claim I make no reference to the history of culture of the time when it is the crux of my position. All those church fathers I quoted are significantly closer to the time of Jesus than any figure you can find advocating a violent interpretation of Christianity.
>That's a lot of words to completely miss my point.
Your point is a proven lie. You were wrong.
>I'm not arguing that Christianity has always been overwhelmingly pacifist.
You are, yeah.
>I'm not arguing it is impossible to reinterpret Jesus's teachings as non-pacifist
There’s nothing to reinterpret. You’ve never read the Bible. You have no idea what Christ did or did not do.
>Virtually none of them interpreted the sermon on the mount as clever rebellion.
Funny how they all cleverly rebelled in those centuries, then, isn’t it.
>They treated it as a literal prescription to nonviolence, which is why they refused to be soldiers, resist those who sought to kill them, or use weapons for any reason.
Funny how they survived, then, isn’t it.
>Were the original progenitors of the faith all heretics?
“WOW I LIED ABOUT YOUR FAITH AND THEREFORE EVERYONE YOU LIKE IS A HYPOCRITE HA HA”
>Why were they dogmatic pacifists if Jesus wasn't teaching pacifism?
Because there’s no mutual exclusivity there.
>It's ironic you claim I make no reference to the history of culture of the time when it is the crux of my position.
The crux that you completely ignored, on purpose, which you openly admitted to doing.
>All those church fathers I quoted are significantly closer to the time of Jesus than any figure you can find advocating a violent interpretation of Christianity.
Except for Jesus Himself, who violently resisted.
Run along, yid.
Your point is a proven lie. You were wrong.
>I'm not arguing that Christianity has always been overwhelmingly pacifist.
You are, yeah.
>I'm not arguing it is impossible to reinterpret Jesus's teachings as non-pacifist
There’s nothing to reinterpret. You’ve never read the Bible. You have no idea what Christ did or did not do.
>Virtually none of them interpreted the sermon on the mount as clever rebellion.
Funny how they all cleverly rebelled in those centuries, then, isn’t it.
>They treated it as a literal prescription to nonviolence, which is why they refused to be soldiers, resist those who sought to kill them, or use weapons for any reason.
Funny how they survived, then, isn’t it.
>Were the original progenitors of the faith all heretics?
“WOW I LIED ABOUT YOUR FAITH AND THEREFORE EVERYONE YOU LIKE IS A HYPOCRITE HA HA”
>Why were they dogmatic pacifists if Jesus wasn't teaching pacifism?
Because there’s no mutual exclusivity there.
>It's ironic you claim I make no reference to the history of culture of the time when it is the crux of my position.
The crux that you completely ignored, on purpose, which you openly admitted to doing.
>All those church fathers I quoted are significantly closer to the time of Jesus than any figure you can find advocating a violent interpretation of Christianity.
Except for Jesus Himself, who violently resisted.
Run along, yid.
> Dismissal without engagement.
> Accusations instead of evidence.
> Reddit-tier condescension.
Your whole "I know you are but what am I" shtick isn't clever.
> There’s nothing to reinterpret. You’ve never read the Bible. You have no idea what Christ did or did not do.
Literal falsehood. I've read the new testament cover to cover multiple times, was Christian for years, and got baptized as an adult in 2023. I now reject it from a place of extensive deliberation, despite starting from a position of *wanting* it to be true.
> Except for Jesus Himself, who violently resisted.
Was that before or after he let a bunch of jews murder him?
> Accusations instead of evidence.
> Reddit-tier condescension.
Your whole "I know you are but what am I" shtick isn't clever.
> There’s nothing to reinterpret. You’ve never read the Bible. You have no idea what Christ did or did not do.
Literal falsehood. I've read the new testament cover to cover multiple times, was Christian for years, and got baptized as an adult in 2023. I now reject it from a place of extensive deliberation, despite starting from a position of *wanting* it to be true.
> Except for Jesus Himself, who violently resisted.
Was that before or after he let a bunch of jews murder him?
>Dismissal without engagement.
Yes, you did that. You were proven incorrect. [You refused to engage.](https://scored.co/c/ConsumeProduct/p/1ARdRBLUv6/love-your-enemies-never-included/c/4eZBKHfXT3Z) Your point was wrong. Your judaism was noticed.
>Accusations instead of evidence.
Evidence provided. You have no rebuttal to it.
>Reddit-tier condescension.
Precipitation. When you’re the lowest of the low, it’s difficult not to be intrinsically better than you, jew.
>Your whole "I know you are but what am I" shtick isn't clever.
Cool; I don’t care about your fantasies. You lied about the verse on purpose to promote the same jewish propaganda spammed for over 60 years (and only in the last 60 years). Drink bleach.
>Literal falsehood.
Already disproven with direct sources.
>I've read the new testament cover to cover multiple times
No one is going to believe you.
>I now reject it from a place of extensive deliberation
Enjoy hell, jew. Maybe become literate before deliberating something you didn’t understand.
>Was that before or after he let a bunch of jews murder him?
[You’re so shit at your job.](https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/2-driving-of-the-merchants-from-the-temple-scarsellino.jpg)
Yes, you did that. You were proven incorrect. [You refused to engage.](https://scored.co/c/ConsumeProduct/p/1ARdRBLUv6/love-your-enemies-never-included/c/4eZBKHfXT3Z) Your point was wrong. Your judaism was noticed.
>Accusations instead of evidence.
Evidence provided. You have no rebuttal to it.
>Reddit-tier condescension.
Precipitation. When you’re the lowest of the low, it’s difficult not to be intrinsically better than you, jew.
>Your whole "I know you are but what am I" shtick isn't clever.
Cool; I don’t care about your fantasies. You lied about the verse on purpose to promote the same jewish propaganda spammed for over 60 years (and only in the last 60 years). Drink bleach.
>Literal falsehood.
Already disproven with direct sources.
>I've read the new testament cover to cover multiple times
No one is going to believe you.
>I now reject it from a place of extensive deliberation
Enjoy hell, jew. Maybe become literate before deliberating something you didn’t understand.
>Was that before or after he let a bunch of jews murder him?
[You’re so shit at your job.](https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/2-driving-of-the-merchants-from-the-temple-scarsellino.jpg)
>Let's see Matthew 5:39
Ah, the classic modern jewish antichrist interpretation of "turn the other cheek." Even Orthodox explain it never meant to be passive, but show them your other side. So if you were meek and they were evil, show them your powerful side. If you were powerful and they were evil, show them your meek side.
>Do you realize that Christianity was overwhelmingly pacifist for the first 250 years of its existence?
Then we got this guy:
>"*Should you hear any one in the public thoroughfare, or in the midst of the forum, blaspheming God; go up to him and rebuke him; and should it be necessary to inflict blows, spare not to do so. Smite him on the face; strike his mouth; sanctify your hand with the blow, and if any should accuse you, and drag you to the place of justice, follow them, and when the judge... calls you to account, say boldly that the man blasphemed the King of angels!*" - Saint John Chrysostom
Here, let me give you a couple more of him:
>“*The jews sacrifice their children to Satan… They are worse than wild beasts. The synagogue is a brothel, a den of scoundrels, the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults, a criminal assembly of jews, a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, a gulf and abyss of perdition… The synagogue is a curse. Obstinate in her error, she refuses to see or hear; she has deliberately perverted her judgment; she has extinguished within herself the light of the Holy Spirit… [The jews] have fallen into a condition lower than the vilest animals. Debauchery and drunkenness have brought them to the level of the lusty goat and the pig. They know only one thing: to satisfy their stomachs, to get drunk, to kill and beat each other up like stage villains and coachmen… I hate the jews because they violate the Law. I hate the Synagogue because it hates the Law and the Prophets. It is the duty of all Christians to hate the jews.*” - Saint John Chrysostom\
"*We must not mind insulting men if by respecting them we offend God.*" - Saint John Chrysostom
Kinda shuts down all the jewish "pacifist" nonsense, huh? I guess the Reconquista never happened.
Ah, the classic modern jewish antichrist interpretation of "turn the other cheek." Even Orthodox explain it never meant to be passive, but show them your other side. So if you were meek and they were evil, show them your powerful side. If you were powerful and they were evil, show them your meek side.
>Do you realize that Christianity was overwhelmingly pacifist for the first 250 years of its existence?
Then we got this guy:
>"*Should you hear any one in the public thoroughfare, or in the midst of the forum, blaspheming God; go up to him and rebuke him; and should it be necessary to inflict blows, spare not to do so. Smite him on the face; strike his mouth; sanctify your hand with the blow, and if any should accuse you, and drag you to the place of justice, follow them, and when the judge... calls you to account, say boldly that the man blasphemed the King of angels!*" - Saint John Chrysostom
Here, let me give you a couple more of him:
>“*The jews sacrifice their children to Satan… They are worse than wild beasts. The synagogue is a brothel, a den of scoundrels, the temple of demons devoted to idolatrous cults, a criminal assembly of jews, a place of meeting for the assassins of Christ, a house of ill fame, a dwelling of iniquity, a gulf and abyss of perdition… The synagogue is a curse. Obstinate in her error, she refuses to see or hear; she has deliberately perverted her judgment; she has extinguished within herself the light of the Holy Spirit… [The jews] have fallen into a condition lower than the vilest animals. Debauchery and drunkenness have brought them to the level of the lusty goat and the pig. They know only one thing: to satisfy their stomachs, to get drunk, to kill and beat each other up like stage villains and coachmen… I hate the jews because they violate the Law. I hate the Synagogue because it hates the Law and the Prophets. It is the duty of all Christians to hate the jews.*” - Saint John Chrysostom\
"*We must not mind insulting men if by respecting them we offend God.*" - Saint John Chrysostom
Kinda shuts down all the jewish "pacifist" nonsense, huh? I guess the Reconquista never happened.
> Ah, the classic modern jewish antichrist interpretation of "turn the other cheek."
Take your meds. I didn't quote "turn the other cheek." I quoted:
> Do not resist an evil person.
Gimme your shirt, bitch. And your cloak, while you're at it.
> Then we got this guy...
Chrysostom isn't representative of the prevailing views of the early church. That's why he's the only person you quoted, while I quoted **seven.** You're telling me nearly the entire early Christian movement was full of heretics who read the truth they got straight from God incorrectly?
Actually... you bought into the CI scam. You probably do believe this unironically.
> Kinda shuts down all the jewish "pacifist" nonsense, huh?
No, because one set of Chrysostom quotes does nothing to disprove what I said. I'll say it again for fun, because it's still true: Christianity was overwhelmingly pacifist for the first 250 years of its existence.
> the Reconquista
Missed the point award.
I'm specifically talking about the foundations Christianity was built on, and the implications of that. Not what they were doing a thousand years later.
The cherry on top is that John Chrysostom himself was born in the mid third century. He can't even be legitimately invoked alongside the others in this context. And even in his own day, he was an extreme outlier.
Take your meds. I didn't quote "turn the other cheek." I quoted:
> Do not resist an evil person.
Gimme your shirt, bitch. And your cloak, while you're at it.
> Then we got this guy...
Chrysostom isn't representative of the prevailing views of the early church. That's why he's the only person you quoted, while I quoted **seven.** You're telling me nearly the entire early Christian movement was full of heretics who read the truth they got straight from God incorrectly?
Actually... you bought into the CI scam. You probably do believe this unironically.
> Kinda shuts down all the jewish "pacifist" nonsense, huh?
No, because one set of Chrysostom quotes does nothing to disprove what I said. I'll say it again for fun, because it's still true: Christianity was overwhelmingly pacifist for the first 250 years of its existence.
> the Reconquista
Missed the point award.
I'm specifically talking about the foundations Christianity was built on, and the implications of that. Not what they were doing a thousand years later.
The cherry on top is that John Chrysostom himself was born in the mid third century. He can't even be legitimately invoked alongside the others in this context. And even in his own day, he was an extreme outlier.
>I didn’t quote [THE THING I QUOTED]
>I quoted [THE THING I QUOTED]
Good job. Fuck off, yid.
>the foundations Christianity was built on
# Physically preventing jews from behaving the way they want to behave.
Why can’t *you* even do that, agnostic?
>I quoted [THE THING I QUOTED]
Good job. Fuck off, yid.
>the foundations Christianity was built on
# Physically preventing jews from behaving the way they want to behave.
Why can’t *you* even do that, agnostic?
> Good job. Fuck off, yid.
I was intentionally isolating part of the quote to force him to grapple with it without his preloaded NPC response. So no, that's not the thing I quoted.
Jesus doesn't say "Resist strategically. Here's how..."
He says "Do not resist at all. Let me emphasize the point..."
> Physically preventing jews from behaving the way they want to behave.
Actually it's based on letting evil people kill you.
Like Jesus did.
Like those seven early church fathers I quoted all rubber stamped.
I was intentionally isolating part of the quote to force him to grapple with it without his preloaded NPC response. So no, that's not the thing I quoted.
Jesus doesn't say "Resist strategically. Here's how..."
He says "Do not resist at all. Let me emphasize the point..."
> Physically preventing jews from behaving the way they want to behave.
Actually it's based on letting evil people kill you.
Like Jesus did.
Like those seven early church fathers I quoted all rubber stamped.
>I was intentionally isolating part of the quote to force him to grapple with it without his preloaded NPC response. So no, that's not the thing I quoted.
Neat, you purposely misconstrued the verse to serve your message. I don’t care. You were wrong.
>Jesus doesn't say
He does. The translation was provided. Christ spoke in parable constantly. You were wrong.
>Actually it's based on letting evil people kill you.
Wrong. Enjoy hell, jew.
Neat, you purposely misconstrued the verse to serve your message. I don’t care. You were wrong.
>Jesus doesn't say
He does. The translation was provided. Christ spoke in parable constantly. You were wrong.
>Actually it's based on letting evil people kill you.
Wrong. Enjoy hell, jew.
>Take your meds. I didn't quote "turn the other cheek." I quoted:
This is what you quoted, retard:
>"*But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.*" - Matthew 5:39
You should learn to read the Bible before trying to quote it, faggot.
>Gimme your shirt, bitch. And your cloak, while you're at it.
Jesus says if I treat you with respect and you treat me with wrong, I should show you my angry side. So I'll just blow your brains out instead because that's the Christian thing to do. Assuming you're actually White, otherwise I'd just go straight to blowing your brains out regardless.
>Chrysostom isn't representative of the prevailing views of the early church.
You mean like how 90% of all Liturgies quote him because he created the Liturgical practice, right? Anyway here's another:
>"*Christianity did not come from Judaism rather, Judaism is a perversion of Christianity.*" - St. Ignatius of Antioch, 1st century AD
Well wouldja look at that...
>Actually... you bought into the CI scam.
How is it a scam when literally all evidence proves it and always has? Is [this](https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~royalancestors/genealogy/names/j/joseph_anna.html) a scam?
>No, because one set of Chrysostom quotes does nothing to disprove what I said.
Except it does, so you've proven you're incompetent with denial and thus lost the argument. I win. Now never speak again until I allow it, jew.
This is what you quoted, retard:
>"*But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.*" - Matthew 5:39
You should learn to read the Bible before trying to quote it, faggot.
>Gimme your shirt, bitch. And your cloak, while you're at it.
Jesus says if I treat you with respect and you treat me with wrong, I should show you my angry side. So I'll just blow your brains out instead because that's the Christian thing to do. Assuming you're actually White, otherwise I'd just go straight to blowing your brains out regardless.
>Chrysostom isn't representative of the prevailing views of the early church.
You mean like how 90% of all Liturgies quote him because he created the Liturgical practice, right? Anyway here's another:
>"*Christianity did not come from Judaism rather, Judaism is a perversion of Christianity.*" - St. Ignatius of Antioch, 1st century AD
Well wouldja look at that...
>Actually... you bought into the CI scam.
How is it a scam when literally all evidence proves it and always has? Is [this](https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~royalancestors/genealogy/names/j/joseph_anna.html) a scam?
>No, because one set of Chrysostom quotes does nothing to disprove what I said.
Except it does, so you've proven you're incompetent with denial and thus lost the argument. I win. Now never speak again until I allow it, jew.
> Yeah? Well how about I shoot you in the face like Jesus totally said you fuckin' meanie?!
The moment where the Christcuck has a neurotic meltdown in the face of an uncomfortable historical mirror is as inevitable as it is pitiable. I'd find it funny if it wasn't so depressingly similar to the behavior of a nigger.
You've still absolutely failed to address the one narrow point my whole argument is dealing with btw. Why was nearly the entire early church a pacifist martyr cult, only "reinterpreting" that stance after they got massive state power?
The moment where the Christcuck has a neurotic meltdown in the face of an uncomfortable historical mirror is as inevitable as it is pitiable. I'd find it funny if it wasn't so depressingly similar to the behavior of a nigger.
You've still absolutely failed to address the one narrow point my whole argument is dealing with btw. Why was nearly the entire early church a pacifist martyr cult, only "reinterpreting" that stance after they got massive state power?
well im not gonna get into a comment war here but i'll make myself brief: the guy in the vid is correct. not in a mood for a debate
Sounds like the Talmud. Might want to try actually reading the bible instead of watching videos from kikes online. Ashkenaz (Germany) isn't even from Shem/Semite. He is from Japeth.
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/56-3.htm
Real modern Israel is spiritual. It's not a people. If you think it is still a people you are lost. The Israelites were scattered to the wind. No one can even claim to be from a tribe anymore. Add to that the Israelites weren't even one people. Egyptians intermarried with them and left Egypt to go to Israel and they could approach the temple after so many years. Israelites also married the foreigners in those lands which God told them not to do due to their horrible religions. Israelites adopted those horrible religious practices like burning kids, male shrine prostitutes and on and on.
The only lineage that mattered was Judah and the messiah and after that was fulfilled their lineages were taken from them and you will need a counterfeit miracle/claim like some clone bullshit or historical fraud like like Shroud of Turin (bible says there were two pieces and in strips and the Shroud is one piece) and DNA .
Read Deut 28 and tell me you are the real Israelites IF you are even from German ancestry like myself. Do we fit there? What people don't even own land, never loan money (the people in Israel are from Edom and frauds like Herod the Great), were enslaved and are hated around the world. The Asians damn near think white people walk on water. They use us in all their games and art lol. Who do they hate?
They are a cursed people, who the hell would want to be a Hebrew. The people that denied God to his face and that he destroyed for it, while making all things new and a new Israel that was spiritual.
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/56-3.htm
Real modern Israel is spiritual. It's not a people. If you think it is still a people you are lost. The Israelites were scattered to the wind. No one can even claim to be from a tribe anymore. Add to that the Israelites weren't even one people. Egyptians intermarried with them and left Egypt to go to Israel and they could approach the temple after so many years. Israelites also married the foreigners in those lands which God told them not to do due to their horrible religions. Israelites adopted those horrible religious practices like burning kids, male shrine prostitutes and on and on.
The only lineage that mattered was Judah and the messiah and after that was fulfilled their lineages were taken from them and you will need a counterfeit miracle/claim like some clone bullshit or historical fraud like like Shroud of Turin (bible says there were two pieces and in strips and the Shroud is one piece) and DNA .
Read Deut 28 and tell me you are the real Israelites IF you are even from German ancestry like myself. Do we fit there? What people don't even own land, never loan money (the people in Israel are from Edom and frauds like Herod the Great), were enslaved and are hated around the world. The Asians damn near think white people walk on water. They use us in all their games and art lol. Who do they hate?
They are a cursed people, who the hell would want to be a Hebrew. The people that denied God to his face and that he destroyed for it, while making all things new and a new Israel that was spiritual.
Listen to this jew double speak. The White race are the Israelites/Hebrews, jews are the edomites and the ashkenazi/khazarians joined them around 600 AD, we are the only race that fulfilled ANY of the prophesies and blessings made to Jacob-Israel, much less ALL of them, yes Germans are mostly the tribes of Dan and Judah, and you're a fucking retard:\
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Buddy if you believe you are really Hebrew then you are cursed per the bible and Jesus. To even call yourself Israel for genetics and not for believing in Christ is blasphemy, because there is no Israel anymore except a spiritual one. Our men should all be "in prison houses for lack of knowledge...with children ruling over us" if we were the cursed Hebrews. We do not fit Deut 28, while one demographic screams Deut 28 and it ain the Edomite jews either. We were not put into Egypt (House of Bondage) again. I never said that "jews" were Hebrews. I have repeatedly always they are Edom (refugees who became the Pharisees) which is why they call Herod the Great from Edom "jewish".
I linked you scriptures and you link me kike subversion. YOU DO NOT READ THE BIBLE and you are trying to divide and conquer the goy and Christianity. Knowingly or unknowingly you are a jew and a kike in every sense of the word.
Gonna tell me the Ethiopian eunuch was white to? Was Egyptian Saint Maurice white who DIED along with all his Christian men for white men, which is why Coburg Germany has his likeness on the city seal? In before you link me some bullshit picture of ball washers from more kike subversion WHEN MY GERMAN PEOPLE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THE GUY LOOKED LIKE. Gonna call my ancestors liars you kike? Pretty sure they could tell black from fuckin white.
I would stand with Saint Maurice against kikes and kike golems like you any day, because 1) you aren't even German 2) you have never even been to Germany and 3) you are dumb enough to still be following men instead of God. He told you everything that would happen and you sit there following con artists that would be killed if they were legitimate.
You want Germans dead by following kike leaders that they have repeatedly tried to give us in exchange for the leaders we had and that died. The kikes who ran the storm sites who are jews per their own mother in Newsweek which pushes all the bullshit you push. The kikes pedos like Frank Collin (Cohn) of the Skokie kike false flag where a jew marched around his own jewish neighborhood.
Go back to roleplaying as a white kike. Ordo Ab Chao right? Order out of chaos. No one is dying for you and your division (and assured destruction from it), but I will die for Christ.
I linked you scriptures and you link me kike subversion. YOU DO NOT READ THE BIBLE and you are trying to divide and conquer the goy and Christianity. Knowingly or unknowingly you are a jew and a kike in every sense of the word.
Gonna tell me the Ethiopian eunuch was white to? Was Egyptian Saint Maurice white who DIED along with all his Christian men for white men, which is why Coburg Germany has his likeness on the city seal? In before you link me some bullshit picture of ball washers from more kike subversion WHEN MY GERMAN PEOPLE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THE GUY LOOKED LIKE. Gonna call my ancestors liars you kike? Pretty sure they could tell black from fuckin white.
I would stand with Saint Maurice against kikes and kike golems like you any day, because 1) you aren't even German 2) you have never even been to Germany and 3) you are dumb enough to still be following men instead of God. He told you everything that would happen and you sit there following con artists that would be killed if they were legitimate.
You want Germans dead by following kike leaders that they have repeatedly tried to give us in exchange for the leaders we had and that died. The kikes who ran the storm sites who are jews per their own mother in Newsweek which pushes all the bullshit you push. The kikes pedos like Frank Collin (Cohn) of the Skokie kike false flag where a jew marched around his own jewish neighborhood.
Go back to roleplaying as a white kike. Ordo Ab Chao right? Order out of chaos. No one is dying for you and your division (and assured destruction from it), but I will die for Christ.
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Yes, the White race is blessed, prophesied and yes, included cursed. We are in the times of Jacob's Trouble which we are being overrun by foreigners thanks to our tolerance to jews. No other race faces this problem, proving me right again. And literally all Germanic languages including Latin and even Norse Runes are based on Hebrew.\
I actually do read the Bible unlike you. It's impossible for me to be a jew or kike or when I'm literally saying kill all jews, expel all nons and kill the nons that resist. That's literally the only way to not be a jew or kike. It isn't everyone vs. the jew, it's Whites vs. everyone especially the jew. You fucking jew.\
Yes, Ethiopia is literally ancient Greek for "White, sun burnt face." The original Ethiopians were descendants of Cush, therefore White, just like all of North Africa and the Middle East was. More proof: https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Is-Universalism-Of-God.pdf\
I'm not German, I'm English and now American. Germans are just mostly the tribes of Dan and Judah while I'm of the tribe of Ephraim. I'm literally doing more for Whites and against jews than you lmfao, you don't even know your origin and you follow modern jewish antichrist ideology to keep Whites divided, weak and genocided. Faggot.
I want Germans to be strong and united like they were for thousands of years before jews got power. Napoleon gave jews power and that's what we have to reverse in addition to getting all the other nons out. I don't know why you would claim otherwise.
You're not dying for Christ, you're dying for jews because you're too retarded to listen when your sin is rebuked.
Yes, the White race is blessed, prophesied and yes, included cursed. We are in the times of Jacob's Trouble which we are being overrun by foreigners thanks to our tolerance to jews. No other race faces this problem, proving me right again. And literally all Germanic languages including Latin and even Norse Runes are based on Hebrew.\
I actually do read the Bible unlike you. It's impossible for me to be a jew or kike or when I'm literally saying kill all jews, expel all nons and kill the nons that resist. That's literally the only way to not be a jew or kike. It isn't everyone vs. the jew, it's Whites vs. everyone especially the jew. You fucking jew.\
Yes, Ethiopia is literally ancient Greek for "White, sun burnt face." The original Ethiopians were descendants of Cush, therefore White, just like all of North Africa and the Middle East was. More proof: https://christiansfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Is-Universalism-Of-God.pdf\
I'm not German, I'm English and now American. Germans are just mostly the tribes of Dan and Judah while I'm of the tribe of Ephraim. I'm literally doing more for Whites and against jews than you lmfao, you don't even know your origin and you follow modern jewish antichrist ideology to keep Whites divided, weak and genocided. Faggot.
I want Germans to be strong and united like they were for thousands of years before jews got power. Napoleon gave jews power and that's what we have to reverse in addition to getting all the other nons out. I don't know why you would claim otherwise.
You're not dying for Christ, you're dying for jews because you're too retarded to listen when your sin is rebuked.
You follow a man and ideology who just created his own version of a "chosen one" Talmud for my German people and who helped create the fraudulent country of Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
You go roleplay as a Nazi. My ancestors actually fought and died in these wars and I'm not dumb or prideful enough to realize they couldn't have been fooled. I identify as a Christian and that is what they are afraid of, not you LARPing as a dead political party who sold Edomites as Israelites.
Also LOL at Germans being strong and United in the distant past. In comes the Pagan bullshit. We fought each other you imbecile, just like our brothers to the North. Mass graves of whites killing whites in constant warfare just like other tribal nations around the world. We were so divided that we were easy prey for countries like Rome who enslaved us and used us because we were simply a mighty people as far as size and stature compared to most of the world. Christianity is what united us, not us being white.
It freed us it did not imprison us. Then we followed leaders who taught us the Talmud, who wrote their own Talmud and now you echo that bullshit. You are damned if you continue this path and God will deny you because you deny ANYONE who spits on those who accept him. You are a kike in every sense of the word "chosen".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
You go roleplay as a Nazi. My ancestors actually fought and died in these wars and I'm not dumb or prideful enough to realize they couldn't have been fooled. I identify as a Christian and that is what they are afraid of, not you LARPing as a dead political party who sold Edomites as Israelites.
Also LOL at Germans being strong and United in the distant past. In comes the Pagan bullshit. We fought each other you imbecile, just like our brothers to the North. Mass graves of whites killing whites in constant warfare just like other tribal nations around the world. We were so divided that we were easy prey for countries like Rome who enslaved us and used us because we were simply a mighty people as far as size and stature compared to most of the world. Christianity is what united us, not us being white.
It freed us it did not imprison us. Then we followed leaders who taught us the Talmud, who wrote their own Talmud and now you echo that bullshit. You are damned if you continue this path and God will deny you because you deny ANYONE who spits on those who accept him. You are a kike in every sense of the word "chosen".
>You follow a man
I follow Jesus Christ, actually, you're the one following jews. lmao
>who just created his own version of a "chosen one" Talmud
I didn't realize basic facts and anthropology and unchanged Holy Tradition was created by some guy in 1900s/2000s. Please, tell me more about the Assyrian Tablets, Behistun Rock, the ancient pharaoh mummies with blonde hair blue eyes and red hair green eyes, King Tut having 99% Western DNA and how jews themselves admit all this to be true as I showed you using their own encyclopedias and almanacs.
>for my German people and who helped create the fraudulent country of Israel.
The Haavara Agreement was created by Germany to get jews out of Germany to send to Palestine complete with all their stuff and money, only the jews betrayed it by declaring war on Germany first, boycotting their goods, double crossing Hitler. How stupid are you that you need an American to educate you on German history? Oh, right, that makes sense, because you'd rather serve jews than Germany.
>You go roleplay as a Nazi.
Is that why you don't even know what the Haavara Agreement is and want to turn Germany brown with race mixing like a jew?
>I identify as a Christian
No you don't, you identity as a jew with all your fruit. Just as Jesus said, you will know them by their fruit. lmao
>who sold Edomites as Israelites.
You're the one claiming the edomites are the Israelites lmao
>Also LOL at Germans being strong and United in the distant past... We fought each other you imbecile
Meanwhile, King Charlemagne...
>Christianity is what united us, not us being white.
Those are the same thing, retard.
>It freed us it did not imprison us.
Correct, jews imprisoned you. Just as you're doing to your self again with this modern jewish ideology.
>Then we followed leaders who taught us the Talmud
Which is what you're doing right now with every word you speak.
>and now you echo that bullshit.
Projection.
>You are damned if you continue this path and God will deny you because you deny ANYONE who spits on those who accept him. You are a kike in every sense of the word "chosen".
"We must accept infinity nons and race mix with them because jews told me so on the internet despite all the evidence proving otherwise, I'll call anyone a jew who proves me wrong"
I follow Jesus Christ, actually, you're the one following jews. lmao
>who just created his own version of a "chosen one" Talmud
I didn't realize basic facts and anthropology and unchanged Holy Tradition was created by some guy in 1900s/2000s. Please, tell me more about the Assyrian Tablets, Behistun Rock, the ancient pharaoh mummies with blonde hair blue eyes and red hair green eyes, King Tut having 99% Western DNA and how jews themselves admit all this to be true as I showed you using their own encyclopedias and almanacs.
>for my German people and who helped create the fraudulent country of Israel.
The Haavara Agreement was created by Germany to get jews out of Germany to send to Palestine complete with all their stuff and money, only the jews betrayed it by declaring war on Germany first, boycotting their goods, double crossing Hitler. How stupid are you that you need an American to educate you on German history? Oh, right, that makes sense, because you'd rather serve jews than Germany.
>You go roleplay as a Nazi.
Is that why you don't even know what the Haavara Agreement is and want to turn Germany brown with race mixing like a jew?
>I identify as a Christian
No you don't, you identity as a jew with all your fruit. Just as Jesus said, you will know them by their fruit. lmao
>who sold Edomites as Israelites.
You're the one claiming the edomites are the Israelites lmao
>Also LOL at Germans being strong and United in the distant past... We fought each other you imbecile
Meanwhile, King Charlemagne...
>Christianity is what united us, not us being white.
Those are the same thing, retard.
>It freed us it did not imprison us.
Correct, jews imprisoned you. Just as you're doing to your self again with this modern jewish ideology.
>Then we followed leaders who taught us the Talmud
Which is what you're doing right now with every word you speak.
>and now you echo that bullshit.
Projection.
>You are damned if you continue this path and God will deny you because you deny ANYONE who spits on those who accept him. You are a kike in every sense of the word "chosen".
"We must accept infinity nons and race mix with them because jews told me so on the internet despite all the evidence proving otherwise, I'll call anyone a jew who proves me wrong"
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The nigger, the jew, the pajeet, the sandnigger, the mexican - they are have to be removed from our countries. In addition to that, the jew has to be completely wiped out from the planet, or your grandchildren can deal with them and struggle for a century or more.
There are hundreds of reasons, which by far outweigh the counter-arguments. How comes a filthy atheist as I am can come to this conclusion, but for you it requires whatever crazy interpretations from ancient text, trying to figure out what God might have meant? And then what, after years or decades of contemplation you come to the same conclusions as I do?
How comes science-denying heathens like us knew in 2020 what the agenda with Covid was all about, and did the correct thing of not taking the clotshot? Wow, somehow our rampant ignorance, stupidity and maliciousness saved us - AGAIN. How bizarre.
How comes these fucking bigots and Nazis are right so often? Because facts, statistics, evidence all serve our points. They are the foundation of what we believe, and they guide us better than some ancient dogma that requires to be continually interpreted and questioned. My beliefs are all based on knowledge and experience, which means I can explain every single one of my views down to axioms.
When I get attacked by a nigger, I do not contemplate morality and scripture. I have no second to spare to contemplate proportionality. I ram my knife through its face and slit its throat. I put it down like rabid dog. What does God have to say about this? I couldn't care the least. It *doesn't matter*.
You better get comfortable with the idea that God wants what is best for us, and we have to decide what that is. We have to find our way through our mess ourselves. And I am not talking about individual "happiness," I talk about our collective well-being. Get comfortable with the idea that jews, niggers and subhumans are there to test us - and the solution is to get to the truth of our existence on a collective level. That only the worthy will prevail. And only those who win are worthy. As of right now God would consider us unworthy to exist - we are a disgrace, but this is just a temporary phase of decline. How do I know? Because either we return to our former glory, or we die out, subjugated and mongrelized into oblivion. And there is no point in considering defeat. We have all that is needed to come ahead. In fact if we'd collectively decide to fix our problems, we could literally do it in 2 weeks.
According to the Bible, God was quite fond of having genocides occasionally. Sodom and Gomorrah being one example. Doesn't it mean if your city is filled with degeneracy and faggotry, you shouldn't wonder if you get scorched into oblivion along with them?
If we aren't capable to fix ourselves, why would God bother to do it for us? "God is dead" "because we killed him" - no... we abandoned him and he abandoned us. It is up to us to fix this.
1. Jews subverted everything, including you into thinking whatever you think right now instead of basic Christianity which never included non-Whites for thousands of years naturally.
2. There is no morality outside God. The only reason you know niggers attacking you is bad is because you were taught that by a Christian culture and nation through history.
Quite a low-IQ nigger move, so there is nothing to say then.
What "argument" do you think I made? Oh, don't peek, we don't want half an hour of written text *not* going to waste.
I scanned through your post. "I'm an athiest, I came to the conclusion that Bible is wrong because I don't have an explanation on where morality comes from and I don't understand enough basic history because I only believe what jews Maxwell told me in school"\
Sound about right?
> The only reason you know niggers attacking you is bad is because you were taught that by a Christian culture and nation through history.
The level of retardation required to even say this is absolutely mind bending. I’m honestly impressed how much of an imbecile you are.