Let us face the truth: Friendship, by and large, is essentially an undead, shambling corpse of what it used to be.
The Scamdemic from 2020-2022 was the final nail in the coffin for friendships.
Nowadays, friendship is usually not a tangible thing. It exists in only two ways now:
1. "friends" online, who you never see and only exchange little dumb pixel text with.
2. "friends" in an area that society requires you both to be in, such as work or school.
What is the problem with present day "friendships"?
They are fake.
People you only "meet" online are NOT your friends.
People you only meet in an area you are both demanded to be in are NOT your friends.
If your co-workers never invite you to anything after work, they clearly do not view you as an actual friend.
For some reason, actual friendships have been killed off in exchange for these cargo cult caricatures that I just described.
In a better world, I would not have to explain the decay of friendship as a whole before discussing the inherent issues with friend groups, because true, meaningful friendships would still be common in a better world, but here we are. Now I shall explain the issue with "friend" groups.
If you join a friend group and you are not a founding member, guess what you are?
A newbie.
An outsider.
An unwanted interloper.
That is what the group will view you as if you are not a founding member, and chances are, that is what they will forever view you as.
In friend groups, there is always a pecking order.
The "founders" can do no wrong, are always correct, and are worshipped by the group no matter what.
The "noobs" are lackeys at best, and if a founder has a perceived slight from the noob? The noob shall be ejected forthwith.
People in the present day are so starved for friendship that many will settle for this facade and are ok with being lackeys for people who do not actually view them as friends.
And because there are so many lonely losers, lackies are very easy to replace.
The founders will always be rude to the noobs, but the noobs BETTER NOT blow an OUNCE of that rudeness back at the founders. If they do, it is game over for that "unloyal" drone.
That is why you should NEVER join a friend group unless you are viewed as a founder. Otherwise, it just is not worth it. If they view you as a newbie, you will never "level up", you will probably be viewed as "that weirdo", even if you have been a "member" for years.
Being a founder is like going to a theme park with little to no lines. Being a lackey is like waiting in a line that never moves, or reading a brochure about a theme park instead of actually going to it.
Being a founder is like watching a movie at a theater with your best buds.
Being a lackey is like being the wagecuck who comes into the same theater after the movie ended and has to clean up the founder's slobbery popcorn mess.
Biker gang cults have a saying: "Lead, follow, or get out of the way!"
Do NOT be a lap dog for people who will never throw you a bone.
Be a FOUNDER.
Of course, good luck being a founder of any type of meaningful friendship group in the present day.
The judeo-capitalist urban hellscape has mostly axed true friendship and sense of community.
Being a "founder" of a "friendship" in the current day probably entails being a janny in a discord group that no one posts in.
But still, it is better to be a founder than a follower.
Try not to despair.
Anyway, what do you guys think?
How do you guys try to find true friendship in the present day without becoming a scorned lackey?
The Scamdemic from 2020-2022 was the final nail in the coffin for friendships.
Nowadays, friendship is usually not a tangible thing. It exists in only two ways now:
1. "friends" online, who you never see and only exchange little dumb pixel text with.
2. "friends" in an area that society requires you both to be in, such as work or school.
What is the problem with present day "friendships"?
They are fake.
People you only "meet" online are NOT your friends.
People you only meet in an area you are both demanded to be in are NOT your friends.
If your co-workers never invite you to anything after work, they clearly do not view you as an actual friend.
For some reason, actual friendships have been killed off in exchange for these cargo cult caricatures that I just described.
In a better world, I would not have to explain the decay of friendship as a whole before discussing the inherent issues with friend groups, because true, meaningful friendships would still be common in a better world, but here we are. Now I shall explain the issue with "friend" groups.
If you join a friend group and you are not a founding member, guess what you are?
A newbie.
An outsider.
An unwanted interloper.
That is what the group will view you as if you are not a founding member, and chances are, that is what they will forever view you as.
In friend groups, there is always a pecking order.
The "founders" can do no wrong, are always correct, and are worshipped by the group no matter what.
The "noobs" are lackeys at best, and if a founder has a perceived slight from the noob? The noob shall be ejected forthwith.
People in the present day are so starved for friendship that many will settle for this facade and are ok with being lackeys for people who do not actually view them as friends.
And because there are so many lonely losers, lackies are very easy to replace.
The founders will always be rude to the noobs, but the noobs BETTER NOT blow an OUNCE of that rudeness back at the founders. If they do, it is game over for that "unloyal" drone.
That is why you should NEVER join a friend group unless you are viewed as a founder. Otherwise, it just is not worth it. If they view you as a newbie, you will never "level up", you will probably be viewed as "that weirdo", even if you have been a "member" for years.
Being a founder is like going to a theme park with little to no lines. Being a lackey is like waiting in a line that never moves, or reading a brochure about a theme park instead of actually going to it.
Being a founder is like watching a movie at a theater with your best buds.
Being a lackey is like being the wagecuck who comes into the same theater after the movie ended and has to clean up the founder's slobbery popcorn mess.
Biker gang cults have a saying: "Lead, follow, or get out of the way!"
Do NOT be a lap dog for people who will never throw you a bone.
Be a FOUNDER.
Of course, good luck being a founder of any type of meaningful friendship group in the present day.
The judeo-capitalist urban hellscape has mostly axed true friendship and sense of community.
Being a "founder" of a "friendship" in the current day probably entails being a janny in a discord group that no one posts in.
But still, it is better to be a founder than a follower.
Try not to despair.
Anyway, what do you guys think?
How do you guys try to find true friendship in the present day without becoming a scorned lackey?
But on a real note. Sometimes there isn't a choice but to start off as a noob or a lackey. Especially if you are new in a place that has already has cliques of people and you fit into one of them. You can't always be a founder, but you can stick around for long enough and become respected enough to be a leader.
You can't always found a friend group, sometimes everyone around is already in circles, and/or the ones who are not already in circles aren't in one for a good reason and you're better off not being around them.
The difference between being a noob that's viewed as a lackey and a noob that's viewed positively is just authenticity. Make friends with people because you actually share interests or click together. Not exclusively because you're a lonely loser. If you have no interests, acquire some fucking interests. There's a clique out there for everyone
Let's say you're in high school and you want to be friends with the jocks because you're lonely, but don't play sports. They won't accept you. Theyll let you hang around, but unless you pick up their main activity, they wont see you as an equal. Let's say you want to be friends with the emos, but you don't listen to the music, they won't accept you. Or the rednecks, or the goths, or the nerds, whatever. But if you do play sports and do listen to the music, and you do dress in the fashion and you do act like them, they probably *will* accept you. But don't sell yourself out to be part of a clique, pick one that speaks to you honestly and start showing them that you like what they like and dress like they dress. Eventually you won't be a noob anymore, you'll be respected, and then after that point, you'll be one of the "alphas" so to speak.
This type of behavior doesn't go away after you leave school either. School is just the most obvious example of this behavior because its the most visibly on display. People still stay in cliques. They just don't generally dress like that anymore because they have jobs and shit, so it's less obvious. You have to talk to them to get to know them.
The alternative: making friends online with the intention of actually meeting at some point. Discord, well, used to be decent for this before it became mostly pedophiles. Amino was good for this before pedophiles. Reddit was good for this before... pedophiles. In my day it was kik, but, well, pedophiles. Common thread here. Idk what the option is for doing this today actually.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
It just that internet "friends" tend to be super temporary, and even for the ones that last, well...
Nothing can change the fact that all an internet "friendship" is, is staring at a screen and exchanging pixels back and forth.
I take no pleasure in sounding GRIM, dower, and unpleasant, (Or "jaded", as edgy fuckwits would say) it is just that internet "friendships" tend to not end well in my experience.
If it makes you feel better, I think I could make a good true friend, but you and the rest of ConPro live in antarctica for all I know.
As for the rest of you comment, yes, good write up, I agree.
Although it really does feel like friendships like how you described ended due to covid and other factors, such as everyone being on their phones.
Also, there are sadly no (to my knowledge) White people who are my age in my current area.
All Whites in my area tend to be boomers and my fellow youngsters are non-White and thus will view me as an outsider for being White.
My area was never an enthno-state, but in 2022 the nons came in force. Thank goodness I shall be forced to move soon due to the judaists raising the prices way too high for it to be viable to stay in this hellhole.
But there used to be a lot more opportunities with internet friends. And it was easier back in the earlier web to build connections with and eventually meet people you found online. Now? It's rare, everything is atomized and full of children and pedophiles as the primary demographics. Nobody trusts each other because they pretty much expect you to either be a child or a pedophile likewise. Granted, there's always been a lot of teenagers online of course, and pedophiles, but not as many pedophiles as there are now. Of course, Kik as the most notable app for this in my time was always full of weird fucks, and you had creepy content creators that were secretly groomers, but there wasn't a pedophile in the back alleyway of every server or chat room you could find. And they would usually get reported and banned if they were there. It was a sort of golden age where moderation against this behavior was actually decent.
So it's become really dodgy to meet anyone you've met online because of the fact that they're much more likely to be a complete freak than they were 10+ years ago. Plus there's ai now, so that makes it about 1000x worse. So nobody really wants to meet each other because of the "sketch" factor. Even if youre both grown ass men, the wish to avoid a complete degenerate is strong enough to just not take the risk.
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
And the cyberspace degenerates are only going to get worse and more numerous from here...
Another reason why it is not possible to meet cyber "friends" in real life: They might as well live on the moon.
One of my cyber "friends" from long ago claimed to live in Lebanon, for example.