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Because people aren't assassinating jews left and right doesn't mean *actually* nothing is happening. The minds of people already have changed. 9/11 is an example where all you have to do is to tell them why it was done by jews (the evidence is overwhelming btw). In the other comment I expanded on why that matters.
> Sure. So where’s the inflection point?
You argue that whatever time frame is, it's too late. Maybe. We'll know when the time comes. I can only speculate. And who knows, maybe we go extinct and you get your final "told you so." But I'd hate myself if I'd do nothing. Hey, if Zelensky or Soros or Netanyahu would be in front of me, I would immediately kill them, knowing the sacrifice. I'd also rush to defend a person from feral niggers or subhumans with lethal force. Maximum violence, no mercy. If I were a soldier, I'd be the idiot who'd throw himself on a grenade to save his comrades.
But I think I can do more, especially over the next years and decades. You too have your book, right?
> But what justification do you have for this belief? “It would be nice” is not a goddamned argument, and it’s 90% of what I see from people here.
Well, as I said, seeing the development of the thoughts of people. If someone like Asmongold would suddenly talk about jews critically, do you think he would lose viewers? His viewership might even explode to new heights. It is not a currency you can easily convert into actions, but it reflects the sentiment of people. When 9/11 happened, people were eager to enlist to fight wars, but today? Nobody wants to die for israel. Even if Trump declared war against whatever sandnigger country, the ambition of the people would be minimal. It could give rise to real opposition to conservatives/MAGA, even NatSoc. This is a limiting factor for politicians. The degree to which they can force their bad agendas against the will of the people is limited.
Further development suggests even MORE opposition to israel, more noticing, more opposition to niggers/pajeets/other subhumans. Do you think that has no value for the future? And this is not wishful thinking. There are points that look rather dire. The Climate Change agenda continues and transforms into a CO2 credit system, the nigger worship transforms into tempered nigger worship ("treat them actually equally"), the reign of leftists (jews) in various countries continues. Btw, I do think that civil wars are inevitable, namely nigger uprisings for being deprived of infinite gibs. Ordinary people will have to deal with feral niggers, and the government will be feckless to handle it for a chunk of time. Things will get much worse before they *can* get better.
> Getting people to stop believing (and therefore behaving) like Qultists.
And do what instead? Assassinating targets isn't particularly feasible. Not because it wouldn't be effective (if continued for a good amount of time, it could cause MASSIVE changes), but it would require people to make massive sacrifices even though the problems aren't overwhelming (yet). So you won't find many (0?) who'd do it (yet). Also a major step is to make people notice the jew, and assassinating them has the purpose to cause them to escalate and infringe on regular people, which in itself would cause noticing.
> Rebuttal: How do you know the bomb isn’t just an empty shell?
We have historically proven to be quite effective in conflicts and wars. On various occasions we have created massive empires, we colonized subhumans with a Christian intent to reform them, we fought each other over basically nothing, there are instances of a group of Whites killing countless niggers, and we have expelled jews 1030+ times from 109+ countries. When the time comes, we as a people have the potential to cause Armageddons. There is certainly a bomb, the question is if and when it detonates next. If we'd have a collective will to fix all out problems, if we'd had true dedication, we could fix them in 2 weeks.
Maybe we just have a rough time for a century, but we've already had many of those and still prevailed. And we lack the temporal overview because we are *right in there*? It's possible people like you and me have thought similarly 1000 years ago. In 1241/1242 Hungarians were raided by vicious mongols, decimating them. But Hungarians prevailed. It must have been a time of utmost misery. WWI was another atrocious, miserable time for many people. In 500 years we might refer to the 20-21th century to a dark era of jewish conquest. An ethnic that was completely wiped out in the 21th century.
So it is really naive to think that we will prevail again as we have done numerous times under numerous circumstances? It's far from over yet.
> “What we’re doing is working, despite it self-evidently not working, because other white nationalists are begging us to stop!”
Some things are working, some aren't. But "working" doesn't mean TND/TKD tomorrow. It means working towards it. I mean 98% of politicians in the US are basically owned by jews... and the EU is ran by communists, so what governmental actions do you expect to happen? It's impossible - yet. And even though the jews own 96%+ of US media and most social media platforms, they aren't exactly doing very well at the reputation front. It's continuously going downhill.
What is left to do? Terrorism, assassinations. Well, yes, but you need a LOT of people for that with a lot of dedication to the cause. So if you expect that, well, it's a little cynical to expect that. It basically boils down to "doing nothing" by setting a bar too high to pass, resulting in not even trying. Or by declaring everything below that as "doing nothing," aka nobody "does anything."
I have a roughly 5% success rate on that.
>You argue that whatever time frame is, it's too late.
Nah, we have a window of about 10 years yet.
>Hey, if Zelensky or Soros or Netanyahu would be in front of me, I would immediately kill them, knowing the sacrifice.
That’s why they never show themselves to the goyim.
>If someone like Asmongold would suddenly talk about jews critically, do you think he would lose viewers?
Yeah, he’d be permanently banned immediately and all of his content removed from every platform. When’s the last time you heard from Kanye West?
>Even if Trump declared war against whatever sandnigger country, the ambition of the people would be minimal.
That’s why they false flag you into supporting their wars. Everyone supported the military after 9/11, right? Jews did it. People just obeyed the kill orders against whomever jews *said* did it instead.
>Further development suggests even MORE opposition to israel, more noticing, more opposition to niggers/pajeets/other subhumans.
That’d be nice, but they’ll just pass a law saying it’s illegal to do that and people will instantly stop.
>namely nigger uprisings for being deprived of infinite gibs.
When Social Security runs out in the mid-2030s, they’ll just cut off white benefits and leave nonwhites.
>And do what instead?
Stop obeying jewish laws. Stop paying jewish taxes. Create communities that actually follow natural law and refuse anything else. The barest, most effortless forms of passive resistance and no one does it.
>We have historically proven to be quite effective in conflicts and wars.
Which is why jews cut the average white man’s testosterone in half in the last 80 years.
>we have expelled jews 1030+ times from 109+ countries.
Maybe we shouldn’t have done that.
>if we'd had true dedication, we could fix them in 2 weeks.
Ever the optimist. I’ve always said five years, worldwide.
>they aren't exactly doing very well at the reputation front. It's continuously going downhill.
How long can the ✡public opinion poll✡ “approval rating” of Congress and the media be 3% before people stop obeying them? Because decades have passed so far and they still obey everything said.
More. There are many rural areas across Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia and the US. We can reclaim our countries even in 30-50 years. It will become more and more difficult, but as difficulty increases, the will to fight also does. The US looks a little more dire, but even there it's not hopeless. The ratio of Whites in the US becomes ~35% in 100 years (if everything would continue as it did before). A ratio of 1:20 is enough for Whites to win against niggers and subhumans.
> When’s the last time you heard from Kanye West?
I really do not follow nigger media... so the thing I heard about him before that was gayfish from Southpark.
> Yeah, he’d be permanently banned immediately and all of his content removed from every platform.
Not necessarily. He has quite a large audience, and he'd go to other platforms, which would still host him (Kick maybe?). Of course assuming he approaches the topic smartly and gradually over the span of months. When measures are taken against him (bans), people wouldn't just handwave it away, argue he'd deserve it and jump off. He is clearly not immune to kikery, but he is in a position where he *could* become a major problem to them, *because* he isn't easily depersonable.
> That’s why they false flag you into supporting their wars.
People are also aware of that, even waiting for the next false flag from israel. Even the assassination of Charlie Kirk makes israel highly suspicious. When the israelis try to pull off a 9/11 again, what are the chances that it could backfire and ruin EVERYTHING? It would force the US to immediately nuke the relationship with israel, and no AIPAC money and jewish media propaganda could prevent that. It would also give room to expose 9/11, and remind everyone of the USS Liberty (which was a failed false flag attempt) and the Levon Affair.
In 2001 nobody was aware of the jewish question and israel, and nobody had any idea of the proclivity of jews to do false flags. There was barely any internet use and social media to even bring attention to it. They had full control of the flow of information. If the jewish media said "it was the Arabs", that was taken for granted, and politicians (George Bush) could go with it with a smile. That's no longer the case.
> but they’ll just pass a law saying it’s illegal to do that and people will instantly stop.
It's already illegal, but that's just a hindrance. If I were in Germany and what I said would be leaked, I'd be in jail for decades. Didn't stop me at any point in time.
> The barest, most effortless forms of passive resistance and no one does it.
No government would leave you free or alive for that. If you want to go that way, you'd have to be ready to kill a LOT of police and maybe even soldiers, and to see your family and neighbors die - a lot. You'd need a large fraction of the population to commit to that at once for it to work. Which goes back to having to inform people, possibly even organizing.
Assassinating high-level jews sounds way more lucrative than that - it could lead to immediate, rampant accelerationism, because the government would *have* to respond with authoritarian measures against *all* people. And if they'd see a couple of billionaire jews hanging from ropes and a sign on their neck that says something inspirational, it would strike fear into jews as well - forcing them to double down or retreat, or even be in conflict with each other "stop making us look bad!" And people weren't mourning for the healthcare CEO either, in fact a lot of people would endorse it, especially leftists.
Just a random thought of course... not that I have spent hours thinking about this.
> Maybe we shouldn’t have done that.
The next time will be the last time. The place they'll be moved is called hell. They brought this upon themselves. They raised the bar to deal with our problems (aka them) so high, that IF it gets passed, it will be passed by people so radical, that TKD will look like a walk in the park. Compared to them, we would appear like liberals. Children will play games where they'll tag each other and say "you are the jew now!" and run around having fun. In Hungary right now and decades ago, calling someone a jew can be an insult, and there are words like "don't jew around." So this is not unthinkable. Even in German saying "Jude" isn't particularly "nice" - they rather resort to euphemisms like "person of jewish heritage."
I've never used such euphemism btw. Over a decade ago, when I was more "liberal" (still quite curious and positive about NatSoc/Fascism btw), we talked about gypsies, and he wanted me to say Roma and Sinti instead. Never did it.
> Ever the optimist. I’ve always said five years, worldwide.
Well, Pareto's 80/20 rule. It might take 5 years for the remaining 20%, but I believe, naively, that 80% in a short time frame would be good enough to call it a success.
> How long can the ✡public opinion poll✡ “approval rating” of Congress and the media be 3% before people stop obeying them? Because decades have passed so far and they still obey everything said.
That's a good point. Maybe an event is needed, like a war, or a failed false flag operation where politicians still act as if it wasn't, trying to wage war on behalf of israel. The thing with these events is that they are unforeseeable. All it takes is for them to make a major mistake.
That wasn't the case in the past - and they DID major mistakes - they could boldly try and fail and suffer no consequences. Given their control of the flow of information, it reached barely anyone. Nobody noticed the jew, and israel was basically out of the picture. Today there are countless people (including me) who are eager to point out the jew in the room.
Of course there is still a long way to go. But it's not hopeless at all.
Very true. Look at all the famous battles with Muslims and the ratios they had to have in order to beat whites.
>People are also aware of that, even waiting for the next false flag from israel.
*We* don’t count as people. There are maybe 10,000 of us total, worldwide. Regular people don’t just “notice” false flags; that’s the entire point of false flags.
>It would force the US to immediately nuke the relationship with israel
The US is literally a puppet state of Israel. We don’t have the ability to dictate the terms of our relationship. They openly admitted they killed their own people on October 6 and the US just gave them more support.
>and no AIPAC money and jewish media propaganda could prevent that.
When the media has done nothing but show only what jews want you to see for the last 130 years, they’re obviously able to hide anything they want.
>In 2001 nobody was aware of the jewish question and israel, and nobody had any idea of the proclivity of jews to do false flags.
[Well…](https://archive.is/oOpBt)
“Of the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, the [Army School of Advanced Military Studies] officers say: "Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act." **~ The Washington Times**; Monday, September 10, 2001
>If the jewish media said "it was the Arabs", that was taken for granted, and politicians (George Bush) could go with it with a smile. That's no longer the case.
October 6?
> You'd need a large fraction of the population to commit to that at once for it to work.
Right; so why is this not being worked on?
> not that I have spent hours thinking about this.
[Definitely not me either.](https://scored.co/c/ConsumeProduct/p/13zztEZzuB/on-nonviolent-noncooperation/c)
> I've never used such euphemism btw.
Respect, man. We have to “police our *own* language” first, otherwise we can’t effectively communicate the truth when we’re still talking like puppets. Go out of your way to use the right words to describe something. Someone in a conversation says, “We’re going to have to do something about these zionists…” and you reply, “You mean the jews and their shabbos goyim?”
> Maybe an event is needed, like a war, or a failed false flag operation where politicians still act as if it wasn't, trying to wage war on behalf of israel. The thing with these events is that they are unforeseeable. All it takes is for them to make a major mistake.
The next obvious event is the (purposeful, planned, structured, organized, scripted) collapse of the economy to force the single global digital-only currency tied to your government ID and banning all cash and independent bank accounts.
But Congress and the media will simply pass whatever laws they want and all their enforcers (whose pensions will be digital only and tied to their obedience) will simply do whatever they’re told to the people.
That works only as long as the illusion works. The illusion is fragile in itself, it holds no power in itself. But as long as it lasts, it is powerful.
> they’re obviously able to hide anything they want.
Not with the internet and social media. Their stranglehold of the flow of information isn't total any more. To boomers the television is the source of all truth. To newer generations it isn't. The MSM (=jewish media) is barely relevant today. It suffers from a lot of distrust. I personally have NEVER in my life trusted the MSM.
> Well…
That is damn interesting... but it was 1 day before 9/11... meaning it was likely never read, or people who read it ignored it. Back then the idea that 9/11 was orchestrated by jews wasn't even considered. "It was an inside job", but oh well, for what? The US doing it for oil? It was a common meme. Even I realized it just a few years ago.
For TODAY that article is extremely relevant though.
> October 6?
Compared to 2 decades ago, the amount of warmongering from the US is minuscule. Some of the airstrikes the US did against Iran were just cosmetic even, just for the show. And people don't play along as they did before. It's a mix of not buying it, not caring and "they deserved it." It's a massive difference in magnitude. It's almost as remote as the question if you believe celebrity A claiming about celebrity B.
> so why is this not being worked on?
The fundamental ideas need more acceptance in the population, which requires them to be informed about niggers, jews and history. Even if an impactful personality like Hitler would come up, it's unlikely he could achieve much. Not the right time yet.
> We have to “police our own language” first
Exactly. I pay a lot of attention as to what I write and how I write it. Language has an effect on thinking, meaning changing the way people speak and write also changes the way they think. I mean jewish propaganda and indoctrination literally has that purpose too... so I'm just doing the opposite of that.
> The next obvious event is the
Yeah, but I heard that for over a decade. I believe they seek to do it, but they just can't manage to pull if off yet. Covid was a prime example of where they could have done it... but at the same time it came at a cost of many people noticing (including me) and becoming hostile to their systems. Maybe they decided to pull back, realizing that pushing through too much was too risky, and just take what they got (economic degradation + huge gains for themselves). I think they expected Covid to be an actual pandemic, not just a rebranded seasonal flu. Maybe within the "2030" agenda it's scheduled for later.
I believe [Climate Change CO2 credits](https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/1ARJmM4JE2/potential-future-dystopia-throug/c) are also a possible project. They'd start in Britain, France or Germany only, and then expand it to other countries over time. It would essentially have the same effect, and it also requires online government ID.
They own all voting machines. Anti-jews will never get into power to un-puppet.
>Not with the internet and social media.
From 1995 to roughly 2012 or so. Now? We have here. That’s it.
>To boomers the television is the source of all truth. To newer generations it isn’t.
Yeah, it’s streaming services. Oh, and YouTube (run by jews with an algorithm that only shows you what jews want to see), TikTok (run by jews with an algorithm that only shows you what jews want to see), and… what the hell do the kids use these days. I don’t pay attention.
>it was 1 day before 9/11... meaning it was likely never read, or people who read it ignored it.
[Heard that one before.](https://www.c-span.org/program/news-conference/defense-business-practices/169250)
>Compared to 2 decades ago, the amount of warmongering from the US is minuscule.
We’re going to war with Venezuela and Nigeria *next week.* Why? Jews demand total direct control of the global narcotics trade, and jews want more niggers alive. Respectively. That’s all they need, and everyone will just go along with it.
>Yeah, but I heard that for over a decade. I believe they seek to do it, but they just can't manage to pull if off yet.
I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention to PKVI’s submissions (in his dozens of account variations), but… that’s exactly what they’re doing. Right now. They have pilot programs completed in every single country now for digital-only currency. Why do subsaharan African countries need digital-only currency? Because they’re going to implement it worldwide. Because they’re giving regular cell phones direct satellite communications, so now they don’t have to even build cell towers in bumfuck nowhere anymore.
>I believe Climate Change CO2 credits are also a possible project.
Yeah, they’ll have to all be killed for them to give up on that one. It’s too perfect a mechanism for physical control. “You are not allowed to leave this location because your climate impact has been too great this year. Do not move. Failure to comply is killing the planet, so we have reason to kill you in response.”