10 days ago9 points(+0/-0/+9Score on mirror)1 child
Oh come on, you have to get your shit together a little. Sometimes you are just depressing to read. Complete demoralization. It's like you yearn for defeat, just so that you can feel vindicated.
At least have a little dignity. When you express something informative, that's highly appreciated. But these are just pathetic, worthless outbursts that are just friendly fire. It appears like emotional incontinence.
There is only one way forward anyway. It's fighting or accepting extinction.
How about you work towards convincing people to join our side? Bring truth to them? The truth about Hitler, the truth about niggers, the truth about jews. And if you don't, you just accepted extinction. Well, some of us didn't, so respect our choices to not be like you.
10 days ago-7 points(+0/-0/-7Score on mirror)3 children
>my feelings
>but my feelings
>no I have absolutely no justification for them
>but truth hurt feelings so truth not real
“Emotional incontinence” is claiming literally anything is happening anywhere to any extent. **You can’t even point to a single instance of a single white person not being arrested by his white peers for committing a crime against jews.** That’s how much nothing is happening. There’s not even the *pretense* of a *limited* form of *local* resistance. Why the fuck can’t you defend your claims?
*“People are talking!”* Great; white genocide is happening faster than ever. Maybe stop talking. *“But that’s illegal!”* Okay, guess we’re already dead for all eternity. *“So you do something!”* I’m not the one who claims anything will ever happen from anyone. You are. Yet you refuse to do that anything. *“Jews are losing power!”* And yet no one acts anywhere, because everyone knows that’s an obvious lie and they can deploy 1,000,000 troops anywhere on Earth with only 72 hours’ notice if they were actually threatened. There is no breakdown in communications anywhere on Earth. There is no breakdown in control anywhere on Earth. There are no localities, regions, or countries which so much as oppose their economic system.
If anything I said was actually wrong, you’d prove it. Instead you scream about emotions as though you’re not the only one being emotional. Imagine thinking you’ll ever “win” against anything when you refuse to internalize what you’re even fighting against.
10 days ago8 points(+0/-0/+8Score on mirror)1 child
> That’s how much nothing is happening.
We know nothing is happening. But a lot more people are noticing online than 10 years ago. And it is necessary for as many people as possible to do that, otherwise, as you said, we'll be stopped by our "peers." Even characters like Nick Fuentes (known as antisemitic and racist) got more into public and even has a lot of clips posted on YT. He even had an interview with Tucker Carlson. He gains quite a lot of popularity as well, so that's something. Asmongold's channel is regularly riddled with comments that notice or point out niggers, and his audience is way more radical than he is.
So "racism" is already soon at a point of public acceptance. 10 years ago? Not even close. There is a development, a trend.
> Why the fuck can’t you defend your claims?
You didn't ask me to. Now I did.
> Maybe stop talking.
Why should I? I work towards TND & TKD. Even if it's not much, at least I write comments that *may* change the minds of people, as to increase the support and decrease the resistance of the idea of TND & TKD. It is what is required anyway.
If talking is worthless, what are you doing here attempting to stop us from even doing that little? Why do you want us to do nothing, even though you argue that "doing nothing" is bad?
How are you contributing better than "doing nothing" at this point? Maybe you should stop talking?
> You are.
Yes, I am. But it is of speculative nature due to the nature of it - it's a prediction. You say that we go extinct and all efforts are futile, my prediction is that there will be NatSoc uprisings in the West, and that I will have contributed to it. That we can use something unprecedented (the internet) to reach as many people as possible.
I know already that you disagree. And there is nothing difficult to say that speculation -> bad. The problem is your attitude. What is even your goal? Do we have the same goal, or are you working against us?
You do not seem to be too busy "doing something" either, right?
> If anything I said was actually wrong, you’d prove it.
I didn't say you are wrong. In fact I am one of the people who say that you are right to others. But just as you can dismiss my predictions, so can I dismiss yours. I see a trend, you focus on past data. With the same logic you can say that a bomb is harmless and nothing ever happens, and until it explodes you are 100% right. How would you feel if it explodes? Stupid?
How would I feel if it wouldn't explode? Well, until my death I would hope it will, and I contribute in a way hoping that it will.
> Instead you scream about emotions as though you’re not the only one being emotional.
You are throwing a tantrum here, and I feel bothered by your repeated defeatism. Without emotions we'd have no will to live or to communicate, right? Let's not pretend either of us is the personification of objectivity here.
> Imagine thinking you’ll ever “win” against anything when you refuse to internalize what you’re even fighting against.
It is not me who has to do that. I have already decided on TND & TKD. I already know enough. I try to convert others towards these goals. For normal people it means making them notice jews and niggers. For right-wing people it means understanding WWII Germany. For people like us, it means dismissing the idea that deportations would suffice. For leftists it means making them look ridiculous or countering their nonsense with facts. There is something for everybody.
Do you have any idea how much text I write that ends up unread? 80-90% of what I write goes into nothingness. Do you have any idea how frustrating it is? With the amount of text I am writing on average, I could write books. And still, I do it anyways. Why? Maybe because I am irrational.
Just as it would be irrational to defend yourself when you or others are mildly harassed by gypsies in a bus. Why bother? The smartest thing is to do nothing. Maybe they deserve it anyway, maybe it's not worth the hassle. But MAYBE the smartest move is to beat the shit out of these gypsies and to take the risk and sacrifice, and to prove to others and yourself that you aren't harmless.
This is why your defeatism is so... annoying to me. Because being like you is something I would hate about myself. It is the EASY option. I would feel shame. I understand your points, and I respect you for expressing them, but still - that mentality is not viable to have. And your one-liner above is just sad. Or do you think that was a good comment? It looks like you have to touch grass to detox from the computer.
10 days ago-4 points(+0/-0/-4Score on mirror)2 children
>We know nothing is happening.
*Then why lie.*
>But a lot more people are noticing online than 10 years ago. And it is necessary for as many people as possible to do that, otherwise, as you said, we'll be stopped by our "peers.”
Sure. So where’s the inflection point?
>…Nick Fuentes… even had an interview with Tucker Carlson.
I want to comment on this as an aside to the broader conversation, and I’d like your views on this matter separately, if you don’t mind.
While I still believe in the validity of the *concept* of Great Man Theory, its implementation in practice hasn’t existed since 1945. As such, we have no leaders and cannot have leaders. What we have are controlled opposition puppets and/or people who get killed before they’re so much as known on a national level, never mind followed.
As such, I don’t trust any ’spokesmen’ for white interests, and haven’t my entire life. Because all of them have been either exposed for what they really are or were actually just degenerates, or weren’t and were simply killed, **new ones just happening to pop up defies the external knowledge of jewish ideological control of all communications systems**. The FCC was created, in part, to silence Father Coughlin. Johnson used a federal agency to silence another white group (whose name escapes me). Even Reagan pressured the… was it FTC? to do the same, and his handlers deregulated the media to consolidate all of it into just six jewish companies. All Internet search engines are run by jews, censoring anything they don’t like. In short, “If you know someone’s name on a national level, jews *allow* it to be known.”
With this in mind, and almost as a separate point to be made itself, I find it interesting (depressing?) that people are so captured by this scripted narrative. We have people here saying that **Fuentes** (irrespective of any other claims about his beliefs and behaviors; I don’t follow them because I don’t trust ‘heroes’ or ’spokesmen’ and therefore can’t comment on them) ***must*** **be a federal agent because he was allowed to speak to Carlson** (son of a CIA agent). Others are claiming that the existence of the interview means **Carlson** (again, son of a CIA agent and who read jewish scripts on jewish television for decades) **has become a white nationalist.**
I’ve seen a handful of their respective recent comments (completely out of context). It *looks* as though Fuentes is apologizing for jews, and Carlson is opposing ‘zionists.’ **Is this not exactly what the Protocols says the script should be?** To keep people in a constant state of confusion by creating rallying points around puppets, pitting them against each other, and then making the puppets’ views incoherent once people are ideologically captured, making them confused in themselves to make their thoughts and actions impotent? Because it feels a whole hell of a lot like that.
I don’t know. What do you think–not just about this specific example, but about the state of ‘leadership’ in general?
>So "racism" is already soon at a point of public acceptance.
When we get to the point that a white jury refuses to convict a white person of a “crime” under the Civil Rights Act, we might have something. Until then, you’ll still lose everything if you get called racist because private organizations will simply cut off your bank account and job and…
>If talking is worthless, what are you doing here attempting to stop us from even doing that little?
I’m here to stop you from talking in a way that gets you killed even faster.
>Why do you want us to do nothing
Who the hell said that?
>even though you argue
Why would you waste time saying that if you know what I actually argue?
>You say that we go extinct and all efforts are futile
We will go extinct because all *existing* efforts are futile.
>my prediction is that there will be NatSoc uprisings in the West
But what justification do you have for this belief? “It would be nice” is not a goddamned argument, and it’s 90% of what I see from people here.
>That we can use something unprecedented (the internet) to reach as many people as possible.
Ten years ago I would have agreed.
>What is even your goal?
Getting people to stop believing (and therefore behaving) like Qultists.
>With the same logic you can say that a bomb is harmless and nothing ever happens, and until it explodes you are 100% right. How would you feel if it explodes? Stupid?
Good analogy. Rebuttal: How do you know the bomb isn’t just an empty shell?
>For leftists it means making them look ridiculous or countering their nonsense with facts.
I don’t know about you, but I only do this as stress relief. They’re neurologically incapable of accepting truth, so any efforts in this regard are objectively wasted.
>Do you have any idea how much text I write that ends up unread? 80-90% of what I write goes into nothingness. Do you have any idea how frustrating it is?
[Not a clue.](https://i.postimg.cc/XvqHg5hf/length.png) You know what’s worse than not being read? Being read and then agreed with and then they don’t even remotely change their beliefs or behaviors afterward.
>The smartest thing is to do nothing.
Well that… sounds more like the strawman people make of me than something you should be saying.
>This is why your defeatism is so... annoying to me. Because being like you is something I would hate about myself.
You’re telling me.
>that mentality is not viable to have.
So “Keep doing things we *know* don’t work because someone warned us against doing them and that action hurt my feelings” is viable?
>And your one-liner above is just sad. Or do you think that was a good comment? It looks like you have to touch grass to detox from the computer.
Cool, so you refuse to do it or comprehend that it’s something that needs to happen among others or that it’s even a viable thing to do. ***No wonder I keep being proven right.*** *“What we’re doing is working, despite it self-evidently not working, because other white nationalists are begging us to stop!”* Fucking hell, man.
> As such, I don’t trust any ’spokesmen’ for white interests, and haven’t my entire life.
I absolutely agree. The only way they can be trustworthy is if they explicitly talk about the taboo topics jews don't want to be discussed in public at all (namely the jewish problem being the most important). Which won't happen anyway.
> It looks as though Fuentes is apologizing for jews, and Carlson is opposing ‘zionists.’
I do not think either of them are agents. They btw accused each other of working for the CIA. Fuentes is as he is since he was ~20 - he was edgy, and his oratory skills and his knowledge of history is excellent. Tucker is just a boomer who went from standard zionist to slightly dissident conservative to becoming critical of israel and dual citizenship as a concept. He grew to agree with a lot of points of Fuentes. I don't think Fuentes is apologizing for jews... that would be like 100 steps forward 1 step backward, so even if true, it doesn't matter.
But I do not care about them as individuals. My view is simply that they are useful for the cause. Criticizing israel means criticizing jews, and Tucker changing his mind means he drags along a LOT of right-wingers to also change their mind into a positive direction. So it's a positive change, and there is a LOT of popularity for Fuentes, which means a LOT of people come to notice the jew. It would be cynical of me to dismiss that because it doesn't immediately lead to TKD.
The question is, when will the 20th century and WWII be talked about? Because when you talk about jews so much, that topic is looming on the horizon. People who already accepted the viciousness of the jews in israel, their control of the media, finance and politics in your own country, they will be open to talk about the holocaust. Was it really undeserved? Did it even happen? Or was a jewish hoax to milk money and be granted immunity through playing victim all along? When the holocaust falls, it's basically over for jews. When it's over for jews, they can no longer suppress the rest of the public conversation, which means people will be even more radicalized. Then TKD will be on the table. When it will be considered "too extreme" aka "too excessive", we have already won, because then it's just a matter of magnitude. "Deportation is not enough" is basically what I tell here on ConPro.
> Because it feels a whole hell of a lot like that.
We are already long in that quagmire. All sorts of leftist ideologies, Climate Change, Covid, cuckservative "based tranny" type, even corporate culture revolving around basically having adult daycares, MGTOW (arguably), Christian zionism, Q faggotry, or just standard ignorance/indoctrination/carelessness, or goofy Flat Earth or aliens-visited-Earth crap - there is no shortage of bullshit ideologies and beliefs. And people inherently *need* their belief slot to be filled with something, even self-declared atheists. I don't think we can ever avoid interference from ideologies, we have to navigate through them as best as we can. Even National Socialism used such beliefs as a vehicle, and it itself became one too.
What *they* can do is push people towards these nonsensical beliefs, as to make them harmless. When there is one ideology or belief that is good, it's good for us. Fuentes doesn't need to be perfect - but it should move the people and the Overton window towards the right direction, and I think it does so. The reason I oppose these trash ideologies and beliefs so vehemently is exactly *because* they are corrosive to many people. The fuck should we care about the Climate Change agendas of 1°C less increase over 100 years when in 100 years we are drowning in niggers? Flat Earth is a total waste of time and makes us look stupid by association. Nigger worship deserves to be ridiculed. They are all distractions that affect world views on a fundamental level towards a bad direction.
> but about the state of ‘leadership’ in general?
You're right about leadership being impossible yet. Unforeseeable events can happen though, which can change the minds of a lot of people. For example as the global opposition towards israel grows, israel gets less support (infinite money from the US), and they might be on the verge of losing. Then in a desperate, arrogant, malevolent attempt they threaten countries with nuclear war, even Europe. That would immediately make jews internationally hated. jews aren't smart, they are just dedicated, amoral and they lie endlessly. To them everything is about the craft of illusion.
Remember, previously (up until recently), when the jew in israel cries, all of us rushed to their aid and even waged wars against their enemies. That has already changed. israel is globally hated by now, only supported by the US. Without the US, israel would fall apart. That's a rather new development.
At some point you may not even need exceptional leaders. Even a mediocre one will kowtow the line the populace wants. Zionism might even become unthinkable among politicians and people in general, to be considered treasonous or irrational like leftist ideologies. The jews will have to try to maintain their control *despite* the will of the people. And the more they do that, the more extreme they become, the more people will notice and hate them. That will inevitably spiral into their downfall.
And maybe at some point people will have shops that say "not jewish" or "anti-zionist." Just a little sticker somewhere at the door. It circumvents the lawfare discrimination nonsense, and will allow people to financially support anti-jewish causes by preferring those shops (along with supporting the very idea/ideology). Even if jews imitate that, the anti-jewish sentiment would be already out there. Little things like this could happen and could get traction on a larger scale.
Because people aren't assassinating jews left and right doesn't mean *actually* nothing is happening. The minds of people already have changed. 9/11 is an example where all you have to do is to tell them why it was done by jews (the evidence is overwhelming btw). In the other comment I expanded on why that matters.
> Sure. So where’s the inflection point?
You argue that whatever time frame is, it's too late. Maybe. We'll know when the time comes. I can only speculate. And who knows, maybe we go extinct and you get your final "told you so." But I'd hate myself if I'd do nothing. Hey, if Zelensky or Soros or Netanyahu would be in front of me, I would immediately kill them, knowing the sacrifice. I'd also rush to defend a person from feral niggers or subhumans with lethal force. Maximum violence, no mercy. If I were a soldier, I'd be the idiot who'd throw himself on a grenade to save his comrades.
But I think I can do more, especially over the next years and decades. You too have your book, right?
> But what justification do you have for this belief? “It would be nice” is not a goddamned argument, and it’s 90% of what I see from people here.
Well, as I said, seeing the development of the thoughts of people. If someone like Asmongold would suddenly talk about jews critically, do you think he would lose viewers? His viewership might even explode to new heights. It is not a currency you can easily convert into actions, but it reflects the sentiment of people. When 9/11 happened, people were eager to enlist to fight wars, but today? Nobody wants to die for israel. Even if Trump declared war against whatever sandnigger country, the ambition of the people would be minimal. It could give rise to real opposition to conservatives/MAGA, even NatSoc. This is a limiting factor for politicians. The degree to which they can force their bad agendas against the will of the people is limited.
Further development suggests even MORE opposition to israel, more noticing, more opposition to niggers/pajeets/other subhumans. Do you think that has no value for the future? And this is not wishful thinking. There are points that look rather dire. The Climate Change agenda continues and transforms into a CO2 credit system, the nigger worship transforms into tempered nigger worship ("treat them actually equally"), the reign of leftists (jews) in various countries continues. Btw, I do think that civil wars are inevitable, namely nigger uprisings for being deprived of infinite gibs. Ordinary people will have to deal with feral niggers, and the government will be feckless to handle it for a chunk of time. Things will get much worse before they *can* get better.
> Getting people to stop believing (and therefore behaving) like Qultists.
And do what instead? Assassinating targets isn't particularly feasible. Not because it wouldn't be effective (if continued for a good amount of time, it could cause MASSIVE changes), but it would require people to make massive sacrifices even though the problems aren't overwhelming (yet). So you won't find many (0?) who'd do it (yet). Also a major step is to make people notice the jew, and assassinating them has the purpose to cause them to escalate and infringe on regular people, which in itself would cause noticing.
> Rebuttal: How do you know the bomb isn’t just an empty shell?
We have historically proven to be quite effective in conflicts and wars. On various occasions we have created massive empires, we colonized subhumans with a Christian intent to reform them, we fought each other over basically nothing, there are instances of a group of Whites killing countless niggers, and we have expelled jews 1030+ times from 109+ countries. When the time comes, we as a people have the potential to cause Armageddons. There is certainly a bomb, the question is if and when it detonates next. If we'd have a collective will to fix all out problems, if we'd had true dedication, we could fix them in 2 weeks.
Maybe we just have a rough time for a century, but we've already had many of those and still prevailed. And we lack the temporal overview because we are *right in there*? It's possible people like you and me have thought similarly 1000 years ago. In 1241/1242 Hungarians were raided by vicious mongols, decimating them. But Hungarians prevailed. It must have been a time of utmost misery. WWI was another atrocious, miserable time for many people. In 500 years we might refer to the 20-21th century to a dark era of jewish conquest. An ethnic that was completely wiped out in the 21th century.
So it is really naive to think that we will prevail again as we have done numerous times under numerous circumstances? It's far from over yet.
> “What we’re doing is working, despite it self-evidently not working, because other white nationalists are begging us to stop!”
Some things are working, some aren't. But "working" doesn't mean TND/TKD tomorrow. It means working towards it. I mean 98% of politicians in the US are basically owned by jews... and the EU is ran by communists, so what governmental actions do you expect to happen? It's impossible - yet. And even though the jews own 96%+ of US media and most social media platforms, they aren't exactly doing very well at the reputation front. It's continuously going downhill.
What is left to do? Terrorism, assassinations. Well, yes, but you need a LOT of people for that with a lot of dedication to the cause. So if you expect that, well, it's a little cynical to expect that. It basically boils down to "doing nothing" by setting a bar too high to pass, resulting in not even trying. Or by declaring everything below that as "doing nothing," aka nobody "does anything."
10 days ago8 points(+0/-0/+8Score on mirror)2 children
Here btw - one comment I made on YT got 8 upvotes:
In fact it was already decided by the Allies in 1933 that war must be brought over Germany. Can you imagine the consequences of Germany prevailing in peace with such tremendous success? They catapulted themselves into a global superpower, enjoying an unprecedented economic-cultural recovery, and they wanted to make sure that they and their methods were demonized, thus never copied by others.
It's the same methods that are needed today btw.
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See? These are the types of comments I make. High effort, low effect. But still more than 0. I also got quite proficient in circumventing the YouTube censorship algorithm. I do not see many comments like mine. And getting to a point where I can dish out these bad boys wasn't easy either.
10 days ago-2 points(+0/-0/-2Score on mirror)1 child
Oh, here’s another thought I’ve had for a while.
Talking about [things like this](https://scored.co/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1ARJvh7S93/reminder-that-a-gay-jew-priest-a/c) without having an active plan to do something about them is itself just demoralization propaganda. I think we might be better served by *only* acknowledging world events when we are able to say that we are not affected by them (because of innate aspects of our white lifestyles in which we’re already engaged), or if we have a plan in place to physically ignore them going forward. Otherwise there’s no point in acknowledging them, right?
You could argue that unless you are among the ~<0.01% who *can* have an active effect on the world, aka giving orders that mobilizes millions of people, it's just entertainment. But people also make decisions on the small scale, which influences their behavior, which becomes relevant on the large scale. And the amount of people you can mobilize through such orders also depends on their convictions.
So influencing people, including news, does have an effect. That's also the purpose of their propaganda - that is how they could "motivate" Americans to go into war against Germany in WWII, because they repeatedly said Germany wanted to conquer the world and is evil, and if the Americans don't do anything, they'll show up on their shores, etc.
The more people notice jews and niggers, the less they are affected by their vile propaganda. Their children will also be more resistant against it. The newest generations are already against israel, unlike the boomers who overwhelmingly support them for whatever idiotic reason.
Sadly these are slow changes. People say the Nazis just "took over" Germany, because a small minority of dedicated people (5%?) took measures into their hand, and the rest were just sheeple who went along with the current thing.
No - the Germans were widely fed up with the jewish bullshit. All these "meaningless" Germans "who just went along" were already ready for massive changes. Hitler provided it to them, he revealed the perpetrators, and it aligned with what Germans widely knew already. ALL Germans suffered through years of hyperinflation, rampant degeneracy and the corrosion of their culture. They also remembered the not so distant communist revolution attempt in 1918. And Russia's communist revolution and the mass murder of Christians was also known. Hitler and NS was EXACTLY what Germans yearned for, and they didn't disappoint.
If the majority of Germans weren't already at least halfway aboard with Hitler, he wouldn't be able to take power and do what he did.
Therefore I do the same. I want TND and TKD, and I am also content with lesser measures like deportation and the removal of the jew from all positions of power. So I contribute in a way I can. Could I do more here in Hungary? Hardly. My linguistic skills in Hungarian aren't remotely enough, and the jewish problem is widely unknown. There is a good chance if I'd dedicate my life into it, it would fail. I'd rather create "culture" that supports my views.
>There is no breakdown in communications anywhere on Earth. There is no breakdown in control anywhere on Earth. There are no localities, regions, or countries which so much as oppose their economic system.
The sad part is that this is all achievable on an individual level but it doesn't help that individual immediately or make them feel good so it just isn't done.
At least have a little dignity. When you express something informative, that's highly appreciated. But these are just pathetic, worthless outbursts that are just friendly fire. It appears like emotional incontinence.
There is only one way forward anyway. It's fighting or accepting extinction.
How about you work towards convincing people to join our side? Bring truth to them? The truth about Hitler, the truth about niggers, the truth about jews. And if you don't, you just accepted extinction. Well, some of us didn't, so respect our choices to not be like you.
>but my feelings
>no I have absolutely no justification for them
>but truth hurt feelings so truth not real
“Emotional incontinence” is claiming literally anything is happening anywhere to any extent. **You can’t even point to a single instance of a single white person not being arrested by his white peers for committing a crime against jews.** That’s how much nothing is happening. There’s not even the *pretense* of a *limited* form of *local* resistance. Why the fuck can’t you defend your claims?
*“People are talking!”* Great; white genocide is happening faster than ever. Maybe stop talking. *“But that’s illegal!”* Okay, guess we’re already dead for all eternity. *“So you do something!”* I’m not the one who claims anything will ever happen from anyone. You are. Yet you refuse to do that anything. *“Jews are losing power!”* And yet no one acts anywhere, because everyone knows that’s an obvious lie and they can deploy 1,000,000 troops anywhere on Earth with only 72 hours’ notice if they were actually threatened. There is no breakdown in communications anywhere on Earth. There is no breakdown in control anywhere on Earth. There are no localities, regions, or countries which so much as oppose their economic system.
If anything I said was actually wrong, you’d prove it. Instead you scream about emotions as though you’re not the only one being emotional. Imagine thinking you’ll ever “win” against anything when you refuse to internalize what you’re even fighting against.
We know nothing is happening. But a lot more people are noticing online than 10 years ago. And it is necessary for as many people as possible to do that, otherwise, as you said, we'll be stopped by our "peers." Even characters like Nick Fuentes (known as antisemitic and racist) got more into public and even has a lot of clips posted on YT. He even had an interview with Tucker Carlson. He gains quite a lot of popularity as well, so that's something. Asmongold's channel is regularly riddled with comments that notice or point out niggers, and his audience is way more radical than he is.
So "racism" is already soon at a point of public acceptance. 10 years ago? Not even close. There is a development, a trend.
> Why the fuck can’t you defend your claims?
You didn't ask me to. Now I did.
> Maybe stop talking.
Why should I? I work towards TND & TKD. Even if it's not much, at least I write comments that *may* change the minds of people, as to increase the support and decrease the resistance of the idea of TND & TKD. It is what is required anyway.
If talking is worthless, what are you doing here attempting to stop us from even doing that little? Why do you want us to do nothing, even though you argue that "doing nothing" is bad?
How are you contributing better than "doing nothing" at this point? Maybe you should stop talking?
> You are.
Yes, I am. But it is of speculative nature due to the nature of it - it's a prediction. You say that we go extinct and all efforts are futile, my prediction is that there will be NatSoc uprisings in the West, and that I will have contributed to it. That we can use something unprecedented (the internet) to reach as many people as possible.
I know already that you disagree. And there is nothing difficult to say that speculation -> bad. The problem is your attitude. What is even your goal? Do we have the same goal, or are you working against us?
You do not seem to be too busy "doing something" either, right?
> If anything I said was actually wrong, you’d prove it.
I didn't say you are wrong. In fact I am one of the people who say that you are right to others. But just as you can dismiss my predictions, so can I dismiss yours. I see a trend, you focus on past data. With the same logic you can say that a bomb is harmless and nothing ever happens, and until it explodes you are 100% right. How would you feel if it explodes? Stupid?
How would I feel if it wouldn't explode? Well, until my death I would hope it will, and I contribute in a way hoping that it will.
> Instead you scream about emotions as though you’re not the only one being emotional.
You are throwing a tantrum here, and I feel bothered by your repeated defeatism. Without emotions we'd have no will to live or to communicate, right? Let's not pretend either of us is the personification of objectivity here.
> Imagine thinking you’ll ever “win” against anything when you refuse to internalize what you’re even fighting against.
It is not me who has to do that. I have already decided on TND & TKD. I already know enough. I try to convert others towards these goals. For normal people it means making them notice jews and niggers. For right-wing people it means understanding WWII Germany. For people like us, it means dismissing the idea that deportations would suffice. For leftists it means making them look ridiculous or countering their nonsense with facts. There is something for everybody.
Do you have any idea how much text I write that ends up unread? 80-90% of what I write goes into nothingness. Do you have any idea how frustrating it is? With the amount of text I am writing on average, I could write books. And still, I do it anyways. Why? Maybe because I am irrational.
Just as it would be irrational to defend yourself when you or others are mildly harassed by gypsies in a bus. Why bother? The smartest thing is to do nothing. Maybe they deserve it anyway, maybe it's not worth the hassle. But MAYBE the smartest move is to beat the shit out of these gypsies and to take the risk and sacrifice, and to prove to others and yourself that you aren't harmless.
This is why your defeatism is so... annoying to me. Because being like you is something I would hate about myself. It is the EASY option. I would feel shame. I understand your points, and I respect you for expressing them, but still - that mentality is not viable to have. And your one-liner above is just sad. Or do you think that was a good comment? It looks like you have to touch grass to detox from the computer.
*Then why lie.*
>But a lot more people are noticing online than 10 years ago. And it is necessary for as many people as possible to do that, otherwise, as you said, we'll be stopped by our "peers.”
Sure. So where’s the inflection point?
>…Nick Fuentes… even had an interview with Tucker Carlson.
I want to comment on this as an aside to the broader conversation, and I’d like your views on this matter separately, if you don’t mind.
While I still believe in the validity of the *concept* of Great Man Theory, its implementation in practice hasn’t existed since 1945. As such, we have no leaders and cannot have leaders. What we have are controlled opposition puppets and/or people who get killed before they’re so much as known on a national level, never mind followed.
As such, I don’t trust any ’spokesmen’ for white interests, and haven’t my entire life. Because all of them have been either exposed for what they really are or were actually just degenerates, or weren’t and were simply killed, **new ones just happening to pop up defies the external knowledge of jewish ideological control of all communications systems**. The FCC was created, in part, to silence Father Coughlin. Johnson used a federal agency to silence another white group (whose name escapes me). Even Reagan pressured the… was it FTC? to do the same, and his handlers deregulated the media to consolidate all of it into just six jewish companies. All Internet search engines are run by jews, censoring anything they don’t like. In short, “If you know someone’s name on a national level, jews *allow* it to be known.”
With this in mind, and almost as a separate point to be made itself, I find it interesting (depressing?) that people are so captured by this scripted narrative. We have people here saying that **Fuentes** (irrespective of any other claims about his beliefs and behaviors; I don’t follow them because I don’t trust ‘heroes’ or ’spokesmen’ and therefore can’t comment on them) ***must*** **be a federal agent because he was allowed to speak to Carlson** (son of a CIA agent). Others are claiming that the existence of the interview means **Carlson** (again, son of a CIA agent and who read jewish scripts on jewish television for decades) **has become a white nationalist.**
I’ve seen a handful of their respective recent comments (completely out of context). It *looks* as though Fuentes is apologizing for jews, and Carlson is opposing ‘zionists.’ **Is this not exactly what the Protocols says the script should be?** To keep people in a constant state of confusion by creating rallying points around puppets, pitting them against each other, and then making the puppets’ views incoherent once people are ideologically captured, making them confused in themselves to make their thoughts and actions impotent? Because it feels a whole hell of a lot like that.
I don’t know. What do you think–not just about this specific example, but about the state of ‘leadership’ in general?
>So "racism" is already soon at a point of public acceptance.
When we get to the point that a white jury refuses to convict a white person of a “crime” under the Civil Rights Act, we might have something. Until then, you’ll still lose everything if you get called racist because private organizations will simply cut off your bank account and job and…
>If talking is worthless, what are you doing here attempting to stop us from even doing that little?
I’m here to stop you from talking in a way that gets you killed even faster.
>Why do you want us to do nothing
Who the hell said that?
>even though you argue
Why would you waste time saying that if you know what I actually argue?
>You say that we go extinct and all efforts are futile
We will go extinct because all *existing* efforts are futile.
>my prediction is that there will be NatSoc uprisings in the West
But what justification do you have for this belief? “It would be nice” is not a goddamned argument, and it’s 90% of what I see from people here.
>That we can use something unprecedented (the internet) to reach as many people as possible.
Ten years ago I would have agreed.
>What is even your goal?
Getting people to stop believing (and therefore behaving) like Qultists.
>With the same logic you can say that a bomb is harmless and nothing ever happens, and until it explodes you are 100% right. How would you feel if it explodes? Stupid?
Good analogy. Rebuttal: How do you know the bomb isn’t just an empty shell?
>For leftists it means making them look ridiculous or countering their nonsense with facts.
I don’t know about you, but I only do this as stress relief. They’re neurologically incapable of accepting truth, so any efforts in this regard are objectively wasted.
>Do you have any idea how much text I write that ends up unread? 80-90% of what I write goes into nothingness. Do you have any idea how frustrating it is?
[Not a clue.](https://i.postimg.cc/XvqHg5hf/length.png) You know what’s worse than not being read? Being read and then agreed with and then they don’t even remotely change their beliefs or behaviors afterward.
>The smartest thing is to do nothing.
Well that… sounds more like the strawman people make of me than something you should be saying.
>This is why your defeatism is so... annoying to me. Because being like you is something I would hate about myself.
You’re telling me.
>that mentality is not viable to have.
So “Keep doing things we *know* don’t work because someone warned us against doing them and that action hurt my feelings” is viable?
>And your one-liner above is just sad. Or do you think that was a good comment? It looks like you have to touch grass to detox from the computer.
Cool, so you refuse to do it or comprehend that it’s something that needs to happen among others or that it’s even a viable thing to do. ***No wonder I keep being proven right.*** *“What we’re doing is working, despite it self-evidently not working, because other white nationalists are begging us to stop!”* Fucking hell, man.
I absolutely agree. The only way they can be trustworthy is if they explicitly talk about the taboo topics jews don't want to be discussed in public at all (namely the jewish problem being the most important). Which won't happen anyway.
> It looks as though Fuentes is apologizing for jews, and Carlson is opposing ‘zionists.’
I do not think either of them are agents. They btw accused each other of working for the CIA. Fuentes is as he is since he was ~20 - he was edgy, and his oratory skills and his knowledge of history is excellent. Tucker is just a boomer who went from standard zionist to slightly dissident conservative to becoming critical of israel and dual citizenship as a concept. He grew to agree with a lot of points of Fuentes. I don't think Fuentes is apologizing for jews... that would be like 100 steps forward 1 step backward, so even if true, it doesn't matter.
But I do not care about them as individuals. My view is simply that they are useful for the cause. Criticizing israel means criticizing jews, and Tucker changing his mind means he drags along a LOT of right-wingers to also change their mind into a positive direction. So it's a positive change, and there is a LOT of popularity for Fuentes, which means a LOT of people come to notice the jew. It would be cynical of me to dismiss that because it doesn't immediately lead to TKD.
The question is, when will the 20th century and WWII be talked about? Because when you talk about jews so much, that topic is looming on the horizon. People who already accepted the viciousness of the jews in israel, their control of the media, finance and politics in your own country, they will be open to talk about the holocaust. Was it really undeserved? Did it even happen? Or was a jewish hoax to milk money and be granted immunity through playing victim all along? When the holocaust falls, it's basically over for jews. When it's over for jews, they can no longer suppress the rest of the public conversation, which means people will be even more radicalized. Then TKD will be on the table. When it will be considered "too extreme" aka "too excessive", we have already won, because then it's just a matter of magnitude. "Deportation is not enough" is basically what I tell here on ConPro.
> Because it feels a whole hell of a lot like that.
We are already long in that quagmire. All sorts of leftist ideologies, Climate Change, Covid, cuckservative "based tranny" type, even corporate culture revolving around basically having adult daycares, MGTOW (arguably), Christian zionism, Q faggotry, or just standard ignorance/indoctrination/carelessness, or goofy Flat Earth or aliens-visited-Earth crap - there is no shortage of bullshit ideologies and beliefs. And people inherently *need* their belief slot to be filled with something, even self-declared atheists. I don't think we can ever avoid interference from ideologies, we have to navigate through them as best as we can. Even National Socialism used such beliefs as a vehicle, and it itself became one too.
What *they* can do is push people towards these nonsensical beliefs, as to make them harmless. When there is one ideology or belief that is good, it's good for us. Fuentes doesn't need to be perfect - but it should move the people and the Overton window towards the right direction, and I think it does so. The reason I oppose these trash ideologies and beliefs so vehemently is exactly *because* they are corrosive to many people. The fuck should we care about the Climate Change agendas of 1°C less increase over 100 years when in 100 years we are drowning in niggers? Flat Earth is a total waste of time and makes us look stupid by association. Nigger worship deserves to be ridiculed. They are all distractions that affect world views on a fundamental level towards a bad direction.
> but about the state of ‘leadership’ in general?
You're right about leadership being impossible yet. Unforeseeable events can happen though, which can change the minds of a lot of people. For example as the global opposition towards israel grows, israel gets less support (infinite money from the US), and they might be on the verge of losing. Then in a desperate, arrogant, malevolent attempt they threaten countries with nuclear war, even Europe. That would immediately make jews internationally hated. jews aren't smart, they are just dedicated, amoral and they lie endlessly. To them everything is about the craft of illusion.
Remember, previously (up until recently), when the jew in israel cries, all of us rushed to their aid and even waged wars against their enemies. That has already changed. israel is globally hated by now, only supported by the US. Without the US, israel would fall apart. That's a rather new development.
At some point you may not even need exceptional leaders. Even a mediocre one will kowtow the line the populace wants. Zionism might even become unthinkable among politicians and people in general, to be considered treasonous or irrational like leftist ideologies. The jews will have to try to maintain their control *despite* the will of the people. And the more they do that, the more extreme they become, the more people will notice and hate them. That will inevitably spiral into their downfall.
And maybe at some point people will have shops that say "not jewish" or "anti-zionist." Just a little sticker somewhere at the door. It circumvents the lawfare discrimination nonsense, and will allow people to financially support anti-jewish causes by preferring those shops (along with supporting the very idea/ideology). Even if jews imitate that, the anti-jewish sentiment would be already out there. Little things like this could happen and could get traction on a larger scale.
Because people aren't assassinating jews left and right doesn't mean *actually* nothing is happening. The minds of people already have changed. 9/11 is an example where all you have to do is to tell them why it was done by jews (the evidence is overwhelming btw). In the other comment I expanded on why that matters.
> Sure. So where’s the inflection point?
You argue that whatever time frame is, it's too late. Maybe. We'll know when the time comes. I can only speculate. And who knows, maybe we go extinct and you get your final "told you so." But I'd hate myself if I'd do nothing. Hey, if Zelensky or Soros or Netanyahu would be in front of me, I would immediately kill them, knowing the sacrifice. I'd also rush to defend a person from feral niggers or subhumans with lethal force. Maximum violence, no mercy. If I were a soldier, I'd be the idiot who'd throw himself on a grenade to save his comrades.
But I think I can do more, especially over the next years and decades. You too have your book, right?
> But what justification do you have for this belief? “It would be nice” is not a goddamned argument, and it’s 90% of what I see from people here.
Well, as I said, seeing the development of the thoughts of people. If someone like Asmongold would suddenly talk about jews critically, do you think he would lose viewers? His viewership might even explode to new heights. It is not a currency you can easily convert into actions, but it reflects the sentiment of people. When 9/11 happened, people were eager to enlist to fight wars, but today? Nobody wants to die for israel. Even if Trump declared war against whatever sandnigger country, the ambition of the people would be minimal. It could give rise to real opposition to conservatives/MAGA, even NatSoc. This is a limiting factor for politicians. The degree to which they can force their bad agendas against the will of the people is limited.
Further development suggests even MORE opposition to israel, more noticing, more opposition to niggers/pajeets/other subhumans. Do you think that has no value for the future? And this is not wishful thinking. There are points that look rather dire. The Climate Change agenda continues and transforms into a CO2 credit system, the nigger worship transforms into tempered nigger worship ("treat them actually equally"), the reign of leftists (jews) in various countries continues. Btw, I do think that civil wars are inevitable, namely nigger uprisings for being deprived of infinite gibs. Ordinary people will have to deal with feral niggers, and the government will be feckless to handle it for a chunk of time. Things will get much worse before they *can* get better.
> Getting people to stop believing (and therefore behaving) like Qultists.
And do what instead? Assassinating targets isn't particularly feasible. Not because it wouldn't be effective (if continued for a good amount of time, it could cause MASSIVE changes), but it would require people to make massive sacrifices even though the problems aren't overwhelming (yet). So you won't find many (0?) who'd do it (yet). Also a major step is to make people notice the jew, and assassinating them has the purpose to cause them to escalate and infringe on regular people, which in itself would cause noticing.
> Rebuttal: How do you know the bomb isn’t just an empty shell?
We have historically proven to be quite effective in conflicts and wars. On various occasions we have created massive empires, we colonized subhumans with a Christian intent to reform them, we fought each other over basically nothing, there are instances of a group of Whites killing countless niggers, and we have expelled jews 1030+ times from 109+ countries. When the time comes, we as a people have the potential to cause Armageddons. There is certainly a bomb, the question is if and when it detonates next. If we'd have a collective will to fix all out problems, if we'd had true dedication, we could fix them in 2 weeks.
Maybe we just have a rough time for a century, but we've already had many of those and still prevailed. And we lack the temporal overview because we are *right in there*? It's possible people like you and me have thought similarly 1000 years ago. In 1241/1242 Hungarians were raided by vicious mongols, decimating them. But Hungarians prevailed. It must have been a time of utmost misery. WWI was another atrocious, miserable time for many people. In 500 years we might refer to the 20-21th century to a dark era of jewish conquest. An ethnic that was completely wiped out in the 21th century.
So it is really naive to think that we will prevail again as we have done numerous times under numerous circumstances? It's far from over yet.
> “What we’re doing is working, despite it self-evidently not working, because other white nationalists are begging us to stop!”
Some things are working, some aren't. But "working" doesn't mean TND/TKD tomorrow. It means working towards it. I mean 98% of politicians in the US are basically owned by jews... and the EU is ran by communists, so what governmental actions do you expect to happen? It's impossible - yet. And even though the jews own 96%+ of US media and most social media platforms, they aren't exactly doing very well at the reputation front. It's continuously going downhill.
What is left to do? Terrorism, assassinations. Well, yes, but you need a LOT of people for that with a lot of dedication to the cause. So if you expect that, well, it's a little cynical to expect that. It basically boils down to "doing nothing" by setting a bar too high to pass, resulting in not even trying. Or by declaring everything below that as "doing nothing," aka nobody "does anything."
In fact it was already decided by the Allies in 1933 that war must be brought over Germany. Can you imagine the consequences of Germany prevailing in peace with such tremendous success? They catapulted themselves into a global superpower, enjoying an unprecedented economic-cultural recovery, and they wanted to make sure that they and their methods were demonized, thus never copied by others.
It's the same methods that are needed today btw.
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See? These are the types of comments I make. High effort, low effect. But still more than 0. I also got quite proficient in circumventing the YouTube censorship algorithm. I do not see many comments like mine. And getting to a point where I can dish out these bad boys wasn't easy either.
I'm a fan of Tallest and Purest. You're both doing more than most.
Talking about [things like this](https://scored.co/c/KotakuInAction2/p/1ARJvh7S93/reminder-that-a-gay-jew-priest-a/c) without having an active plan to do something about them is itself just demoralization propaganda. I think we might be better served by *only* acknowledging world events when we are able to say that we are not affected by them (because of innate aspects of our white lifestyles in which we’re already engaged), or if we have a plan in place to physically ignore them going forward. Otherwise there’s no point in acknowledging them, right?
So influencing people, including news, does have an effect. That's also the purpose of their propaganda - that is how they could "motivate" Americans to go into war against Germany in WWII, because they repeatedly said Germany wanted to conquer the world and is evil, and if the Americans don't do anything, they'll show up on their shores, etc.
The more people notice jews and niggers, the less they are affected by their vile propaganda. Their children will also be more resistant against it. The newest generations are already against israel, unlike the boomers who overwhelmingly support them for whatever idiotic reason.
Sadly these are slow changes. People say the Nazis just "took over" Germany, because a small minority of dedicated people (5%?) took measures into their hand, and the rest were just sheeple who went along with the current thing.
No - the Germans were widely fed up with the jewish bullshit. All these "meaningless" Germans "who just went along" were already ready for massive changes. Hitler provided it to them, he revealed the perpetrators, and it aligned with what Germans widely knew already. ALL Germans suffered through years of hyperinflation, rampant degeneracy and the corrosion of their culture. They also remembered the not so distant communist revolution attempt in 1918. And Russia's communist revolution and the mass murder of Christians was also known. Hitler and NS was EXACTLY what Germans yearned for, and they didn't disappoint.
If the majority of Germans weren't already at least halfway aboard with Hitler, he wouldn't be able to take power and do what he did.
Therefore I do the same. I want TND and TKD, and I am also content with lesser measures like deportation and the removal of the jew from all positions of power. So I contribute in a way I can. Could I do more here in Hungary? Hardly. My linguistic skills in Hungarian aren't remotely enough, and the jewish problem is widely unknown. There is a good chance if I'd dedicate my life into it, it would fail. I'd rather create "culture" that supports my views.
The sad part is that this is all achievable on an individual level but it doesn't help that individual immediately or make them feel good so it just isn't done.
We would rather dig ditches for our replacements