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**[Thread in question](https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/16bimbshcv/retarded-shill-faggot-says-epsta/c/4TvATJDmVEX)**

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The post against Insurgent gained far more traction than I would have ever anticipated. About a year ago the complaints were limited to a very vocal minority including the OP. The complaints at the time were low effort nazi memes, harassment of patriots.win moderators and users, being a shill with an agenda of diluting the discussion and ensuring ConsumeProduct stays a containment board, vote manipulation and long lists of alleged alts, some real, quite a lot lacking any justification. About a dozen people (the afforementioned vocal minority) quit ConPro entirely over Insurgent being allowed to stay here, having pretty much ruined Arete's viability as a platform in the process. That entire chat had devolved into constant infighting, until eventually everyone left ConsumeProduct for good.

That all seems to have changed.

The people who frequented the Arete chat are not a representative sample of ConsumeProduct's user base, so I thought I'd ask this question here.

Do you agree with u/assttaskmanager's stance against Insurgent? Is him being allowed to post really such a significant issue as it is made out to be (i.e. actively harming the forum and a coordinated attack on it)?

Please share your opinion, even if that is simply to abstain from the drama.

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PurestEvil on scored.co
10 months ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
There are many pros and cons. But it ultimately boils down to this: Are we willing to put up with him as a factor of perpetual source of mild to moderate annoyance? He is clearly the worst offender.

I vote pro ban. If it weren't for his sockpuppeting, I'd be somewhat neutral about it. Except his recent pedo messages... I mean he picks out opinions whatever is most provocative. He also ran some flat Earther crap. He barely ever responds like a sane human, only in sarcastic 1-2 liners.

I am glad it is discussed, and people don't get banned arbitrarily. But Insurgent is a menace that needs to be dealt with. Expect him to go full pedo-nigger mode when he is dealt with btw. The challenge will be to figure out when suddenly appearing new users are actually him and not genuine new users.

If he is forced to behave like a somewhat sane person in order to shroud his identity, I am fine with that outcome. That's one positive outcome.
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