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Samhain has nothing to do with Halloween and the so called incorporation of it's traditions into Christianity was totally fabricated by modern retards. Its pure fantasy.
For one, the celts weren't monolithic and didn't have a common religion or calender, nor was Samhain a Celtic holiday. The Irish god Lugh wasn't worshiped anywhere but Ireland, as there are zero mentions of him in any of the Celtic provinces of Rome, including Britain, Gaul, Germania, etc. Samhain, likewise was not celebrated anywhere except Ireland and in areas of heavy Irish migration. Samhain was an Irish holiday, not some significant pan-celtic feast day that convinced the Catholic Church to modify its calender for all of Europe.
Samhain was not religious in nature, by all the evidence we have. Could there have been some religious stuff going on? Sure, it's possible; but we have no record or evidence of those things. As far as we know, it was just a harvest festival. 'Samhain' literally just means "summers end." The Irish Christians who wrote about Samhain were so far removed from Samhain that they didn't even know what sort of things it entailed, other than feasting and partying. In fact, most of the religious ideas people today commonly associate with Samhain were actually part of Beltane, an *early* summer festival that we DO have evidence of.
The dead walking the earth and being commemorated and communed with during Samhain is totally fabricated, as the pagan Irish believed in reincarnation. There's no point commemorating the dead or trying to talk to spirits if they're simply walking around in another body. It wasn't even their new year festival, as the only surviving pre-christain celtic calender we have (from france) puts their new year at the winter solstice, not November 1st. We don't even have a pre-Christian Irish calender. Sir John Rhys just made that shit up based on *contemporary* Welsh and Irish folklore.
Praying for the dead was entirely Christian in origin, and all of the modern Halloween traditions are related to that. Christians began celebrating what would become all saints day in the 300's AD. Originally, it was for all Roman martyrs, and was held in May. Within a hundred years, every region of the church was celebrating the same thing at various times of year: Easter week, week after Pentecost, (Ireland was April 20th), etc. The pope set it to May for the whole church in the 7th century. By the 8th century, Germany has a local tradition of celebrating it November 1, and the pope set that as the standard for the whole church. It wasn't in response to Samhain, as the Germans didn't celebrate it, and the Irish didn't even associate it with all saints. All souls day was added in the middle ages as a reminder that those in purgatory need our intercessory prayers.
Bon fires came from Catholics praying in the countryside because they were banned from worshipping by the protestants. It is normal for Catholics to light a candle at a shrine when praying for the dead. The bon fire was a stand in when candles and shrines were made illegal.
Costumes came from Christian danse macabre and masquerade tradition, signifying the universality of the last four things: death, judgement, and heaven or hell. Souling, likewise, descends from danse macabre troupes.
For one, the celts weren't monolithic and didn't have a common religion or calender, nor was Samhain a Celtic holiday. The Irish god Lugh wasn't worshiped anywhere but Ireland, as there are zero mentions of him in any of the Celtic provinces of Rome, including Britain, Gaul, Germania, etc. Samhain, likewise was not celebrated anywhere except Ireland and in areas of heavy Irish migration. Samhain was an Irish holiday, not some significant pan-celtic feast day that convinced the Catholic Church to modify its calender for all of Europe.
Samhain was not religious in nature, by all the evidence we have. Could there have been some religious stuff going on? Sure, it's possible; but we have no record or evidence of those things. As far as we know, it was just a harvest festival. 'Samhain' literally just means "summers end." The Irish Christians who wrote about Samhain were so far removed from Samhain that they didn't even know what sort of things it entailed, other than feasting and partying. In fact, most of the religious ideas people today commonly associate with Samhain were actually part of Beltane, an *early* summer festival that we DO have evidence of.
The dead walking the earth and being commemorated and communed with during Samhain is totally fabricated, as the pagan Irish believed in reincarnation. There's no point commemorating the dead or trying to talk to spirits if they're simply walking around in another body. It wasn't even their new year festival, as the only surviving pre-christain celtic calender we have (from france) puts their new year at the winter solstice, not November 1st. We don't even have a pre-Christian Irish calender. Sir John Rhys just made that shit up based on *contemporary* Welsh and Irish folklore.
Praying for the dead was entirely Christian in origin, and all of the modern Halloween traditions are related to that. Christians began celebrating what would become all saints day in the 300's AD. Originally, it was for all Roman martyrs, and was held in May. Within a hundred years, every region of the church was celebrating the same thing at various times of year: Easter week, week after Pentecost, (Ireland was April 20th), etc. The pope set it to May for the whole church in the 7th century. By the 8th century, Germany has a local tradition of celebrating it November 1, and the pope set that as the standard for the whole church. It wasn't in response to Samhain, as the Germans didn't celebrate it, and the Irish didn't even associate it with all saints. All souls day was added in the middle ages as a reminder that those in purgatory need our intercessory prayers.
Bon fires came from Catholics praying in the countryside because they were banned from worshipping by the protestants. It is normal for Catholics to light a candle at a shrine when praying for the dead. The bon fire was a stand in when candles and shrines were made illegal.
Costumes came from Christian danse macabre and masquerade tradition, signifying the universality of the last four things: death, judgement, and heaven or hell. Souling, likewise, descends from danse macabre troupes.