1 month ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)2 children
It's violence desensitizing training. You will never get a boomer to hate, you will never get a boomer to kill. A gamer on the other hand, they already think that killing to fix things is pretty ok.
1 month ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
Either cope or ignorance.
As the other commenter said, firearms training and especially combat sports are more effective at conditioning a man to real violence than video games could ever be. You seem to be describing one's *willingness to enact* violence in the abstract, which should be a function of ideology first.
I guarantee you that a Spartan boy was more willing and able to enact violence in practice than any modern right wing gamer today.
Who am I attacking? This *is* the recruitment campaign.
Get off the do-nothing dopamine carousel and engage in activity that will meaningfully enhance your ability to fight rather than just fantasize about it. Anyone who won't even entertain that idea isn't worth recruiting anyways.
> Boomers
The boomers who *were* capable of violence were the ones who practiced real skills related to it. Combat veterans and the like. Gamers are analogous to boomers who watched UFC and war documentaries but never actually got off their asses.
I agree, but let’s not pretend that pound for pound gaming isn’t one of the easiest, and cheapest hobbies to get into. Shooting in comparison is very expensive. Shit, shooting, especially now, is very expensive. Even just shooting 22 is more expensive than gaming. You have to remember, that most young people, and people in general are poor as fuck in mOOdern times.
1 month ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
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"Barely above pornography" is pretty much exactly what I was about to say. It's the other side of that coin.
Video games are degenerate because they consume massive quantities of bandwidth even in modest doses—for absolutely zero meaningful real world reward. Hours and hours of time and vitality pissed away into a digital void.
Where internet pornography is a hollow simulacrum of the sexual reward men are wired to chase, video games are the parallel fiend that hijack a man's drive to climb, conquer, and achieve greatness.
1 month ago6 points(+0/-0/+6Score on mirror)2 children
> "Barely above pornography" is pretty much exactly what I was about to say. It's the other side of that coin.
So books, chess, bird watching, painting, nature walks and enjoying a cup of tea are all just a stones throw away from cranking it to porn...
The deep character arcs of Raziel and Kain are akin to an anal gangbang, and Mein Kampf is really a lesbian orgy...
Give me a fucking break. You don't throw an entire industry or entire genre of art away because some slimy kike makes snake oil inside it. [You make superior art.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyq9UFKXi3c)
I think both of you guys are partially right. Gaming like some people do, is close to porn. I’m not talking about the guys who hop in chat to hook up with their frens sometimes to bullshit and talk about most recent events and shit while playing a military shooter. I’m talking about the guys who get on, often times by themselves, to chase after that next RNG upgrade and grind, and grind, and grind for that dopamine. That is definitely a real, and still relatively new phenomenon that is definitely closer to porn, and is fucking young people up IMHO.
Once again, like so many things in life, it’s all in how you use it, and moderation of source. This is coming from someone who has no interest in gaming anymore after a 10 year hiatus. I literally just had a buddy call me and tell me he’ll build me a new PC if I give him the money to play the new battlefield with him. He even offered to buy the game for me as a birthday present. It’s “sad”, I just don’t have that urge, annd desire anymore. I told him I’ll hop on chat and bullshti with him. He said yeah, but that’s just not the same. I do sometimes remember the good time we had on bad company, and battlefield 3/4, but it passes pretty quick.
>books, chess, bird watching, painting, nature walks and enjoying a cup of tea are all just a stones throw away from cranking it to porn...
No, there is a fundamental and critical difference between the two.
All of the things you listen are active. *You* have to set up the chess board, create the image of the writing, or actually get out and walk.
Video games are passive. Even though you are pushing buttons you are entering a world that has been created for you, purely for entertainment. You are not active in creating or visualizing this world, you are a passive participant. That's the danger; that you become accustomed to everything in your life being ordered, by someone else, for your benefit.
Are there beneficial side effects? Sure. As you mentioned, video games are good at presenting narratives and spreading culture, and there's some evidence to suggest that they improve things like spacial reasoning.
But for every benefit, there's a risk. Because they present completely synthetic worlds, up to an including physics, video games can just as easily present evil ideas as good. Sitting around improving spacial sense doesn't provide excercise, like other methods do, and doesn't produce anything, like woodworking or even 3d print design would.
In short, video games have a high likelyhood of wasting your time, which is one of the biggest issues with porn.
It depends on the types of games your playing, what your goals are, if you’re playing with frens in chat? Only after those questions can you compare them to porn IMHO. On top of all that shooters especially are amazing for hand eye coordination IMHO.
1 month ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)1 child
> No, there is a fundamental and critical difference between the two.
There really isn't.
> All of the things you listen are active. You have to set up the chess board, create the image of the writing, or actually get out and walk.
> Video games are passive. Even though you are pushing buttons you are entering a world that has been created for you, purely for entertainment. You are not active in creating or visualizing this world, you are a passive participant. That's the danger; that you become accustomed to everything in your life being ordered, by someone else, for your benefit.
You've contradicted yourself so severely, I'm just going to let this hang here. No. Videogames are not a passive process. You're completely wrong.
What you're actually afraid of is low IQ people being subject to long nose propaganda.
> But for every benefit, there's a risk.
That's life, my friend. Almost anything good can be turned and used for evil. *"It's a Kingdom of conscious. Or nothing."* It's up to the singular individual, down to the common man, to hold his own soul in good standing.
> Sitting around improving spacial sense doesn't provide excercise, like other methods do, and doesn't produce anything, like woodworking or even 3d print design would.
You're missing the point of art, and the enjoyment of it. You're not supposed to produce anything when walking through an art museum, reading a book or listening to music.
I'm not saying you have to pull profound understanding and deep personal insights out of every gaming session, as I'm sure many pieces of art get walked straight by in an art museum.
But it's up to the individual. How do you know what will spark inspiration? Creativity? The excitement of discovery? How do you know what will kickstart and expand someone's imagination?
Yes. There are titty mags, pornos and smut. But there's also The Lord of the Rings. You don't throw away the good because of the bad.
Excellent comment. You said it better than I came here to say.
I remind people that quite a few us here are only redpilled in the first place because of GamerGate. I'd imagine that makes up a fair chunk of our base here.
Just realize that it's fantasy and not reality, don't replace real life with it as a cope and don't make your it your entire personality and lifestyle. Simple as. Do the important things in life that needs to be done first. Work first, play later.
And furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed.
I haven’t games in ten years, but I disagree about the comparison to pornography unless you’re talking about the losers who play by themselves all the time to grind on whatever bullshit loot or upgrade the fpgames entice you with. If you use gaming to jump in chat, and bullshit, and talk shop a few hours a week, I think it’s actually healthy as long as you have everything else in order. I look at it as the equivalent of when our parents would get together to play cards/poker while talking shit. With that said, how many people have their lives in order enough to waste more than a couple of hours a week on gaming? I’m talking they lift at least three times a week, and or spend at least an hour a day doing things with their kids if they have any. I’d bet it’s less than 50% for sure.
I just push a controller cable into my ear far enough until it makes me giggle and I can pretend to enjoy pixels and pushing buttons in a hitbox. My mammy comes to feed me my Ritalin dino nuggets and wipe my nose.
As the other commenter said, firearms training and especially combat sports are more effective at conditioning a man to real violence than video games could ever be. You seem to be describing one's *willingness to enact* violence in the abstract, which should be a function of ideology first.
I guarantee you that a Spartan boy was more willing and able to enact violence in practice than any modern right wing gamer today.
Get off the do-nothing dopamine carousel and engage in activity that will meaningfully enhance your ability to fight rather than just fantasize about it. Anyone who won't even entertain that idea isn't worth recruiting anyways.
> Boomers
The boomers who *were* capable of violence were the ones who practiced real skills related to it. Combat veterans and the like. Gamers are analogous to boomers who watched UFC and war documentaries but never actually got off their asses.
"Barely above pornography" is pretty much exactly what I was about to say. It's the other side of that coin.
Video games are degenerate because they consume massive quantities of bandwidth even in modest doses—for absolutely zero meaningful real world reward. Hours and hours of time and vitality pissed away into a digital void.
Where internet pornography is a hollow simulacrum of the sexual reward men are wired to chase, video games are the parallel fiend that hijack a man's drive to climb, conquer, and achieve greatness.
So books, chess, bird watching, painting, nature walks and enjoying a cup of tea are all just a stones throw away from cranking it to porn...
The deep character arcs of Raziel and Kain are akin to an anal gangbang, and Mein Kampf is really a lesbian orgy...
Give me a fucking break. You don't throw an entire industry or entire genre of art away because some slimy kike makes snake oil inside it. [You make superior art.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyq9UFKXi3c)
Once again, like so many things in life, it’s all in how you use it, and moderation of source. This is coming from someone who has no interest in gaming anymore after a 10 year hiatus. I literally just had a buddy call me and tell me he’ll build me a new PC if I give him the money to play the new battlefield with him. He even offered to buy the game for me as a birthday present. It’s “sad”, I just don’t have that urge, annd desire anymore. I told him I’ll hop on chat and bullshti with him. He said yeah, but that’s just not the same. I do sometimes remember the good time we had on bad company, and battlefield 3/4, but it passes pretty quick.
No, there is a fundamental and critical difference between the two.
All of the things you listen are active. *You* have to set up the chess board, create the image of the writing, or actually get out and walk.
Video games are passive. Even though you are pushing buttons you are entering a world that has been created for you, purely for entertainment. You are not active in creating or visualizing this world, you are a passive participant. That's the danger; that you become accustomed to everything in your life being ordered, by someone else, for your benefit.
Are there beneficial side effects? Sure. As you mentioned, video games are good at presenting narratives and spreading culture, and there's some evidence to suggest that they improve things like spacial reasoning.
But for every benefit, there's a risk. Because they present completely synthetic worlds, up to an including physics, video games can just as easily present evil ideas as good. Sitting around improving spacial sense doesn't provide excercise, like other methods do, and doesn't produce anything, like woodworking or even 3d print design would.
In short, video games have a high likelyhood of wasting your time, which is one of the biggest issues with porn.
There really isn't.
> All of the things you listen are active. You have to set up the chess board, create the image of the writing, or actually get out and walk.
> Video games are passive. Even though you are pushing buttons you are entering a world that has been created for you, purely for entertainment. You are not active in creating or visualizing this world, you are a passive participant. That's the danger; that you become accustomed to everything in your life being ordered, by someone else, for your benefit.
You've contradicted yourself so severely, I'm just going to let this hang here. No. Videogames are not a passive process. You're completely wrong.
What you're actually afraid of is low IQ people being subject to long nose propaganda.
> But for every benefit, there's a risk.
That's life, my friend. Almost anything good can be turned and used for evil. *"It's a Kingdom of conscious. Or nothing."* It's up to the singular individual, down to the common man, to hold his own soul in good standing.
> Sitting around improving spacial sense doesn't provide excercise, like other methods do, and doesn't produce anything, like woodworking or even 3d print design would.
You're missing the point of art, and the enjoyment of it. You're not supposed to produce anything when walking through an art museum, reading a book or listening to music.
I'm not saying you have to pull profound understanding and deep personal insights out of every gaming session, as I'm sure many pieces of art get walked straight by in an art museum.
But it's up to the individual. How do you know what will spark inspiration? Creativity? The excitement of discovery? How do you know what will kickstart and expand someone's imagination?
Yes. There are titty mags, pornos and smut. But there's also The Lord of the Rings. You don't throw away the good because of the bad.
I remind people that quite a few us here are only redpilled in the first place because of GamerGate. I'd imagine that makes up a fair chunk of our base here.
Just realize that it's fantasy and not reality, don't replace real life with it as a cope and don't make your it your entire personality and lifestyle. Simple as. Do the important things in life that needs to be done first. Work first, play later.
And furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed.