As I said, even if Kirk "saw the light" at the end, he no less dedicated a decade of his life to imposing and enforcing Zionist hegemony over American sovereignty. That can't be overlooked or forgiven. Kirk was a mouth for hire that did lots of harm to the Right and America's future.
If a criminal repents after a decades-long crime-spree, do you let them walk free?
I don’t know man, he just came off as your basic bitch christcuck on steroids due to his popularity, and funding. I know quite a few people like him because of their “faith” first, they have a hard time putting race at the forefront because then it would interfere with their muh chosen ones, and socioeconomic nigger bullshit since were all Gods children. Fortunately his death has already made three of them that I talk to regularly realize the truth, and that is the fact that CK was a straight white Christian male who was becoming a problem, and venturing off the plantation.
“If a criminal repents after a decades-long crime-spree, do you let them walk free?”
We’ll never know 100% what was in his heart, and 100% what his intentions were, but if they’re white, pass the 80/20 test, and depending on what their redemption arc looks like, thats when you make those decisions IMHO.
We also have to, or at least should, IN GOOD COMPANY/with frens, keep in mind how young he was when he started with all this bullshit, and some of the “people” he was surrounded by including Ben, and Candice. There’s only so much you can do on such a large stage while keeping said influence when you’re working with, and surrounded by big name kikes, and niggers.
Regardless of what was in his heart, there is no man who will ever be perfect, but I know for a fact he helped push more people to lean further right in both life, and now FOR SURE in his death. IMHO, we have to stop with the extreme purity testing that we continue to do here. I use to be a victim of it a couple of years ago still, but I’ve realized, and seen it first hand, that it’s a hell of a lot easier to wake up someone who believes, and espouses his type of rhetoric than someone who doesn’t. You may not like to hear this, but much of what CK believed, or at least professed to believe is where many people who would fit in here with us today believed just five years ago, if not more recently.
> but I know for a fact he helped push more people to lean further right
Define "right." Imagine being a Christian and celebrating someone who goes from being an atheist to becoming a Mormon. I guess you could be happy they're no longer atheist, but Mormons are not Christians, despite their claims.
That's Kirk's "cuckservatism." Kirk didn't push anyone to the Right, he brainwashed kids into being Neocon Zionbots that wait for their milquetoast marching orders from Con Inc. podcasters. America doesn't need those kinds of NPCs. That's what Kirk was grooming at TPUSA -- GOP-flavored NPCs that stalemate with DNC-programmed NPCs to maintain the false two-party paradigm where nothing ever happens and nothing ever changes.
Kirk was an agent of the system, the status quo, which is why he was allowed to be paid millions to do what he did.
Kirk was no hero, no maverick, no "Moses" in the desert ... he was a paid mouth for hire.
Further right NOW can mean many things to many people depending on where you’re at in your journey, but to me, like others here in my opinion, it means acknowledging that we are not, and can never be the same in regards to race, so our ingroup preference has to be at the forefront, and maintained before anything else, because without that scaffolding, everything else will falter.
As far as everything else you said, you’re talking to a fren here, not normies. I’m not arguing in bad faith with you. I’m referring to people who are still normies, or were barely out of normy conservative territory.
“I guess you could be happy they're no longer atheist, but Mormons are not Christians, despite their claims.”
Shit like the above is still way to layered, and deep into the weeds for most of them. All most of them see is that a straight white Christian with a young beautiful budding family was murdered live on camera for daring to have a different opinion, and speak about it.
“Kirk was no hero, no maverick, no "Moses" in the desert ... he was a paid mouth for hire.”
Of course not to us, because we’re way further along in our journey of nOOticing fren. I’m also not seeing many normies refer to him as such either.
> I’m also not seeing many normies refer to him as such either.
Literally all of them are. Mark Dice, Sam Hyde, Carl Benjamin, etc. They're all lionizing him as if he were a saint or Superman. A week ago nobody gave a shit about him; he was just another establishment gatekeeper getting paid millions for running RNC talking points and making excuses for Trump. Today he's Jesus on the Cross!
It's fucking weird and shamelessly hypocritical. Mark Dice and Sam Hyde saying "We are all Charlie Kirk" .. ugh, no. Fuck you. I don't make my money going on college campuses to troll ignorant kids for online content. Kirk was always punching down when he did that.
Looking at it from the Left's perspective, you can only mock someone for so long before they push back. Kirk didn't go on campuses to have "debates" or "conversations," he went there to bait ignorant kids into a routine pilpul that none of them were prepared or smart enough to navigate. The result would be Charlie saying, essentially, *"Haha, I'm smart and you're dumb. Say 'Hi' to YouTube, dummy. You're sooo dumb!"*
Again, you can only mock and belittle someone for so long. Why else did Kirk and Crowder and Shapiro and all the others take bodybuilder private guards when they visit campus? They knew what they were doing, they knew they were "teasing the tiger" and now one of them got mauled. Lesson learned, right? Maybe now they'll visit campuses to actually have respectful, good faith conversations rather than to make "HAHA, YOU SO DUMB!" clickbait.
If a criminal repents after a decades-long crime-spree, do you let them walk free?
“If a criminal repents after a decades-long crime-spree, do you let them walk free?”
We’ll never know 100% what was in his heart, and 100% what his intentions were, but if they’re white, pass the 80/20 test, and depending on what their redemption arc looks like, thats when you make those decisions IMHO.
We also have to, or at least should, IN GOOD COMPANY/with frens, keep in mind how young he was when he started with all this bullshit, and some of the “people” he was surrounded by including Ben, and Candice. There’s only so much you can do on such a large stage while keeping said influence when you’re working with, and surrounded by big name kikes, and niggers.
Regardless of what was in his heart, there is no man who will ever be perfect, but I know for a fact he helped push more people to lean further right in both life, and now FOR SURE in his death. IMHO, we have to stop with the extreme purity testing that we continue to do here. I use to be a victim of it a couple of years ago still, but I’ve realized, and seen it first hand, that it’s a hell of a lot easier to wake up someone who believes, and espouses his type of rhetoric than someone who doesn’t. You may not like to hear this, but much of what CK believed, or at least professed to believe is where many people who would fit in here with us today believed just five years ago, if not more recently.
Define "right." Imagine being a Christian and celebrating someone who goes from being an atheist to becoming a Mormon. I guess you could be happy they're no longer atheist, but Mormons are not Christians, despite their claims.
That's Kirk's "cuckservatism." Kirk didn't push anyone to the Right, he brainwashed kids into being Neocon Zionbots that wait for their milquetoast marching orders from Con Inc. podcasters. America doesn't need those kinds of NPCs. That's what Kirk was grooming at TPUSA -- GOP-flavored NPCs that stalemate with DNC-programmed NPCs to maintain the false two-party paradigm where nothing ever happens and nothing ever changes.
Kirk was an agent of the system, the status quo, which is why he was allowed to be paid millions to do what he did.
Kirk was no hero, no maverick, no "Moses" in the desert ... he was a paid mouth for hire.
As far as everything else you said, you’re talking to a fren here, not normies. I’m not arguing in bad faith with you. I’m referring to people who are still normies, or were barely out of normy conservative territory.
“I guess you could be happy they're no longer atheist, but Mormons are not Christians, despite their claims.”
Shit like the above is still way to layered, and deep into the weeds for most of them. All most of them see is that a straight white Christian with a young beautiful budding family was murdered live on camera for daring to have a different opinion, and speak about it.
“Kirk was no hero, no maverick, no "Moses" in the desert ... he was a paid mouth for hire.”
Of course not to us, because we’re way further along in our journey of nOOticing fren. I’m also not seeing many normies refer to him as such either.
Literally all of them are. Mark Dice, Sam Hyde, Carl Benjamin, etc. They're all lionizing him as if he were a saint or Superman. A week ago nobody gave a shit about him; he was just another establishment gatekeeper getting paid millions for running RNC talking points and making excuses for Trump. Today he's Jesus on the Cross!
It's fucking weird and shamelessly hypocritical. Mark Dice and Sam Hyde saying "We are all Charlie Kirk" .. ugh, no. Fuck you. I don't make my money going on college campuses to troll ignorant kids for online content. Kirk was always punching down when he did that.
Looking at it from the Left's perspective, you can only mock someone for so long before they push back. Kirk didn't go on campuses to have "debates" or "conversations," he went there to bait ignorant kids into a routine pilpul that none of them were prepared or smart enough to navigate. The result would be Charlie saying, essentially, *"Haha, I'm smart and you're dumb. Say 'Hi' to YouTube, dummy. You're sooo dumb!"*
Again, you can only mock and belittle someone for so long. Why else did Kirk and Crowder and Shapiro and all the others take bodybuilder private guards when they visit campus? They knew what they were doing, they knew they were "teasing the tiger" and now one of them got mauled. Lesson learned, right? Maybe now they'll visit campuses to actually have respectful, good faith conversations rather than to make "HAHA, YOU SO DUMB!" clickbait.