John 8:44: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
IN SHORT -- lying (and murder) is of the devil. Jews are of the devil. Therefore, jews lie.
Recently someone posted something about the LDS church. I responded to many posts with "liar" and such. In subsequent conversation, to the few that actually challenged my retort, it was shown that they were, indeed, liars. They accepted the lies about our church that they were told, and repeated them as if they were the truth.
*Why do you do this?*
Don't you know that most of "pop culture" is an absolute lie? What little truth there is is distorted beyond recognition?
Don't you know that they lied about Hitler, WWII, and so many other things?
Why do you believe people that lie about one thing?
Don't you know how to sift through lies to identify the truth?
There is a reason why most of the Christian world lies about the LDS church. I shouldn't have to explain it. I'll just state the simple fact: Our church is growing because we have high marriage rates, low divorce rates, and we have a lot of children. Our missionary work is effective. Our retention rates are good enough. They hated is in the 1830s because we were rapidly expanding. We have never stopped expanding since.
As Jesus warned us, the world will always hate us. We wear that with a smile and pride, to be counted worthy to be hated by the world.
In about 100 years or so, the majority of people living in the US will be members of our church by birth. This is the fact of demographics. Look around, you've probably noticed more and more members of our church around you. You've probably seen temples and churches with "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" on them. We're building buildings so fast we can barely keep up with the demand.
What you probably don't know is how rapidly the church is expanding outside of the US. Since the 1990s, the majority of the members have lived overseas. Since the priesthood revelation of 1978, we have been exploding in Africa as well. You are probably wondering how that can be true, since most of the members of our church living in the US are white Anglo-Saxon English speakers.
The reason is simple: We tell people to stay home, don't come to the US, build up the kingdom in their own country. When they do come here, temporarily, we send them back as soon as possible.
There was a time when we welcomed immigrants, back in the late 1800s as people fled Europe into the US. We did all we could to bring them to the Salt Lake Valley and then teach them English and English customs and culture. My own great great grandmother was from Denmark. My great great grandfather grew up in England. They were both pioneers that built an empire in the West where there was nothing but dust and salt lakes. Our sentiment was no one would ever want this land, so we will take it.
The church is not your enemy. In fact, when the SS investigated members of our church, they were surprised that we had no beef with them since we must've been an American church controlled by the jews. They thought that the leaders of our church, President Grant at the time, was milking funds from the members and living on the proceeds, so they made a rule that the LDS church could not move funds out of Germany, and we were fine with that. Upon further investigation, it turned out we were sending money INTO Germany, because of the poverty there, and after the war, we were key in airlifting food and supplies to Berlin while the jews tried to starve them to death. We were happy to accommodate the government of Germany at the time because there was no reason to fight over things that don't matter, and our church has never been a representative of the American people or its government.
In fact, if you want a sane approach to race and equality, and you want a real final solution to the jewish question, you're going to have to talk to us. We are financially independent, and doing quite well, both as members and as a church. We want to help everyone obtain good jobs and build their families, no matter what their religion are. Our welfare program is drop-dead simple, very effective at stamping out poverty, and anyone can copy it, and we urge people to do so. The real problems whites in the US and in Europe are facing -- we have the answers. Hence, most of us don't really understand why naziism or fascism is so appealing. We simply aren't suffering as much as you from the jews.
Is our church perfect in every way? Are we going to agree with you on everything? Of course not. If you find faults, congratulations, you have two eyes and a brain. But where we don't compromise is in our mission to build up God's kingdom on the earth, a kingdom where we FULLY expect to see people from almost every denomination and many religions to be full participants in. Those who love Jesus, love truth, and love life will all be welcomed in. Liars, adulterers, thieves, murderers will not.
Our single guiding light is the living Christ. He speaks to us, we try to obey, and we do the best we can with everything else. We hope everyone else does the same, whether Christ leads them into our church, parallel to it, or some other direction.
If you have genuine questions, I can answer them or at least point you in the right direction. Can I answer everything? No, but I have an idea of what questions you are going to ask and so I can confidently say you are very unlikely to come across something I haven't heard of before.
IN SHORT -- lying (and murder) is of the devil. Jews are of the devil. Therefore, jews lie.
Recently someone posted something about the LDS church. I responded to many posts with "liar" and such. In subsequent conversation, to the few that actually challenged my retort, it was shown that they were, indeed, liars. They accepted the lies about our church that they were told, and repeated them as if they were the truth.
*Why do you do this?*
Don't you know that most of "pop culture" is an absolute lie? What little truth there is is distorted beyond recognition?
Don't you know that they lied about Hitler, WWII, and so many other things?
Why do you believe people that lie about one thing?
Don't you know how to sift through lies to identify the truth?
There is a reason why most of the Christian world lies about the LDS church. I shouldn't have to explain it. I'll just state the simple fact: Our church is growing because we have high marriage rates, low divorce rates, and we have a lot of children. Our missionary work is effective. Our retention rates are good enough. They hated is in the 1830s because we were rapidly expanding. We have never stopped expanding since.
As Jesus warned us, the world will always hate us. We wear that with a smile and pride, to be counted worthy to be hated by the world.
In about 100 years or so, the majority of people living in the US will be members of our church by birth. This is the fact of demographics. Look around, you've probably noticed more and more members of our church around you. You've probably seen temples and churches with "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" on them. We're building buildings so fast we can barely keep up with the demand.
What you probably don't know is how rapidly the church is expanding outside of the US. Since the 1990s, the majority of the members have lived overseas. Since the priesthood revelation of 1978, we have been exploding in Africa as well. You are probably wondering how that can be true, since most of the members of our church living in the US are white Anglo-Saxon English speakers.
The reason is simple: We tell people to stay home, don't come to the US, build up the kingdom in their own country. When they do come here, temporarily, we send them back as soon as possible.
There was a time when we welcomed immigrants, back in the late 1800s as people fled Europe into the US. We did all we could to bring them to the Salt Lake Valley and then teach them English and English customs and culture. My own great great grandmother was from Denmark. My great great grandfather grew up in England. They were both pioneers that built an empire in the West where there was nothing but dust and salt lakes. Our sentiment was no one would ever want this land, so we will take it.
The church is not your enemy. In fact, when the SS investigated members of our church, they were surprised that we had no beef with them since we must've been an American church controlled by the jews. They thought that the leaders of our church, President Grant at the time, was milking funds from the members and living on the proceeds, so they made a rule that the LDS church could not move funds out of Germany, and we were fine with that. Upon further investigation, it turned out we were sending money INTO Germany, because of the poverty there, and after the war, we were key in airlifting food and supplies to Berlin while the jews tried to starve them to death. We were happy to accommodate the government of Germany at the time because there was no reason to fight over things that don't matter, and our church has never been a representative of the American people or its government.
In fact, if you want a sane approach to race and equality, and you want a real final solution to the jewish question, you're going to have to talk to us. We are financially independent, and doing quite well, both as members and as a church. We want to help everyone obtain good jobs and build their families, no matter what their religion are. Our welfare program is drop-dead simple, very effective at stamping out poverty, and anyone can copy it, and we urge people to do so. The real problems whites in the US and in Europe are facing -- we have the answers. Hence, most of us don't really understand why naziism or fascism is so appealing. We simply aren't suffering as much as you from the jews.
Is our church perfect in every way? Are we going to agree with you on everything? Of course not. If you find faults, congratulations, you have two eyes and a brain. But where we don't compromise is in our mission to build up God's kingdom on the earth, a kingdom where we FULLY expect to see people from almost every denomination and many religions to be full participants in. Those who love Jesus, love truth, and love life will all be welcomed in. Liars, adulterers, thieves, murderers will not.
Our single guiding light is the living Christ. He speaks to us, we try to obey, and we do the best we can with everything else. We hope everyone else does the same, whether Christ leads them into our church, parallel to it, or some other direction.
If you have genuine questions, I can answer them or at least point you in the right direction. Can I answer everything? No, but I have an idea of what questions you are going to ask and so I can confidently say you are very unlikely to come across something I haven't heard of before.
>But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
The official story of Mormonism begins with an angel preaching what is essentially another gospel to Joseph Smith. So what it suggests is that for 1800 years the Holy Spirit wasn't able to guide us to the truth, and we needed Smith to get special revelation from an angel. This is nonsense.
But if you want to get in the nitty-gritty, what exactly is the gospel that we preach in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and how does that compare with the gospel Paul preached?
You mentioned the angle that appeared to Joseph Smith. Are you referring to the angel Moroni or are you referring to the First Vision? Pick one, get specific, and let's debate.
HINT: They are one and the same. Joseph Smith was tutored, after all, but Paul and other apostles. Peter, James and John laid their hands on his head and ordained him with the same priesthood they received from the hand of Jesus. Furthermore, Jesus frequently appeared, not just to Smith but others, and instructed them in what they should preach and how to preach it. You can find those revelations in the Doctrine and Covenants.