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Absolutely check out Stone Choir. This is the episode I usually send people as an introduction https://stone-choir.com/supernatural-intervention/
When you understand the arguments and truthfully consider them, you will come to the conclusion that Confessional Lutheranism has the purest doctrine and the most legitimate claim to an unbroken line from Christ and the apostles.
Unfortunately, we live in an era where good churches are hard to find. See if there is a WELS, ELS, or LCMS church body near you. May God guide you.
When you understand the arguments and truthfully consider them, you will come to the conclusion that Confessional Lutheranism has the purest doctrine and the most legitimate claim to an unbroken line from Christ and the apostles.
Unfortunately, we live in an era where good churches are hard to find. See if there is a WELS, ELS, or LCMS church body near you. May God guide you.
The "icons and pomp" are called worship, the thing that belongs to God. If you can get beyond that, you will find a richness of faith beyond compare.
As for books, I would recommend The Faith of the Early Fathers by William Jurgens
As for books, I would recommend The Faith of the Early Fathers by William Jurgens
> *I'm searching for where to learn about Christianity without the presence of all the subversion.*
I don't know that you're going to find a Church local to you that is willing to name the jew. What you can find is Churches local to you that do not support gay marriages or any LGBT clergy whatsoever. You can screen prospective Churches near you on both issues by asking DDG ai or Brave ai in a way that is ambiguous, meaning phrase it in a way where it thinks you might be gay and/or concerned for your safety. If ai thinks you want to avoid gay Churches, it very likely could lie to you on purpose (you bigot)!
What is harder to find is Churches that are actively, or openly anti-LGBT. They exist, but it's going to depend on your area. You're probably not going to find one in NY, LA, Chicago, etc. But if you're in rural West Virginia, or Tennessee, or Oklahoma, or somewhere similar you've got about a 1 in 4 chance of stumbling into one.
> *Not quite sure where to start.*
The Bible, especially The New Testament, because Jesus disputes a lot of the Pharisees, which was vaguely based on customs and practices from The Old Testament. That being said, don't ignore The Old Testament entirely, the groundwork or reasoning for a lot of what The New Testament says about jews and the Synagogue of Satan is mostly laid in The Old Testament.
[jews scorned in Old Testament](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2032%3A28-33%2C%20Hosea%209%3A1%2C%209%3A7%2C%209%3A9%2C%209%3A15%2C%209%3A17%2C%20Leviticus%2020%3A2-5%2C%20Numbers%2025%3A3-5%2C%20Judges%202%3A11-13%2C%201%20Kings%2011%3A5-7%2C%20Zephaniah%201%3A4-6%2C%20Amos%205%3A26%2C%20Jeremiah%207%3A31-32%2C%20Jeremiah%2019%3A4-6%2C%20Jeremiah%2032%3A30-35&version=NLT)
[jews scorned in New Testament](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelations%202%3A9%2C%20Revelations%203%3A9%2C%20Titus%201%3A14%2C%20John%208%3A44%2C%20Matthew%2027%3A22-26%2C%201%20Thessalonians%202%3A14-16%2C%20Acts%207%3A43&version=NLT)
As far as the Bible version. Get something easy to read. Some people like the KJV but I don't. I'd rather read the Greek or Hebrew translated to modern English so I can think about the message I've just read rather than concentrating on translating the Old English dialect to modern English to grasp what I read.
However there is plenty of subversion in different versions. So read some key passages in the different versions before you decide.
For example,
> *Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.* — Leviticus 18:22, NLT
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> *It is disgusting for a man to have sex with another man.* — Leviticus 18:22, CEV
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> *Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.* — Leviticus 18:22, NIV
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> *You must not have sexual intercourse with a man as you would with a woman; it is a detestable practice.* — Leviticus 18:22, CEB
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> *You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.* — Leviticus 18:22, NRSV
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> *You shall not lie with a man as one does with a woman. It is an abomination.* — Leviticus 18:22, MEV
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> *Don’t have sex with a man as one does with a woman. That is abhorrent.* — Leviticus 18:22, MSG
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> *You are not to lie with a man, as with a woman—that is an abomination.* — Leviticus 18:22, TLV
In NLT for instance, *"Do not practice homosexuality"* because *"it is a detestable sin"*. Pretty damn clear in my opinion. In others it's reduced to *"shall not lie with a man"* or *"you are not to lie with a man"* because it's *"a detestable practice"* or *"it is abhorrent"*.
Some of those Bible versions were written specifically by gay churches. Metropolitan Community Churches (a gay denomination) specifically uses only one Bible version and discussing other versions is prohibited.
Personally, I prefer my Bible to call a spade a spade, in a version of English that I use myself.
I don't know that you're going to find a Church local to you that is willing to name the jew. What you can find is Churches local to you that do not support gay marriages or any LGBT clergy whatsoever. You can screen prospective Churches near you on both issues by asking DDG ai or Brave ai in a way that is ambiguous, meaning phrase it in a way where it thinks you might be gay and/or concerned for your safety. If ai thinks you want to avoid gay Churches, it very likely could lie to you on purpose (you bigot)!
What is harder to find is Churches that are actively, or openly anti-LGBT. They exist, but it's going to depend on your area. You're probably not going to find one in NY, LA, Chicago, etc. But if you're in rural West Virginia, or Tennessee, or Oklahoma, or somewhere similar you've got about a 1 in 4 chance of stumbling into one.
> *Not quite sure where to start.*
The Bible, especially The New Testament, because Jesus disputes a lot of the Pharisees, which was vaguely based on customs and practices from The Old Testament. That being said, don't ignore The Old Testament entirely, the groundwork or reasoning for a lot of what The New Testament says about jews and the Synagogue of Satan is mostly laid in The Old Testament.
[jews scorned in Old Testament](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2032%3A28-33%2C%20Hosea%209%3A1%2C%209%3A7%2C%209%3A9%2C%209%3A15%2C%209%3A17%2C%20Leviticus%2020%3A2-5%2C%20Numbers%2025%3A3-5%2C%20Judges%202%3A11-13%2C%201%20Kings%2011%3A5-7%2C%20Zephaniah%201%3A4-6%2C%20Amos%205%3A26%2C%20Jeremiah%207%3A31-32%2C%20Jeremiah%2019%3A4-6%2C%20Jeremiah%2032%3A30-35&version=NLT)
[jews scorned in New Testament](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelations%202%3A9%2C%20Revelations%203%3A9%2C%20Titus%201%3A14%2C%20John%208%3A44%2C%20Matthew%2027%3A22-26%2C%201%20Thessalonians%202%3A14-16%2C%20Acts%207%3A43&version=NLT)
As far as the Bible version. Get something easy to read. Some people like the KJV but I don't. I'd rather read the Greek or Hebrew translated to modern English so I can think about the message I've just read rather than concentrating on translating the Old English dialect to modern English to grasp what I read.
However there is plenty of subversion in different versions. So read some key passages in the different versions before you decide.
For example,
> *Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.* — Leviticus 18:22, NLT
>
> *It is disgusting for a man to have sex with another man.* — Leviticus 18:22, CEV
>
> *Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.* — Leviticus 18:22, NIV
>
> *You must not have sexual intercourse with a man as you would with a woman; it is a detestable practice.* — Leviticus 18:22, CEB
>
> *You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.* — Leviticus 18:22, NRSV
>
> *You shall not lie with a man as one does with a woman. It is an abomination.* — Leviticus 18:22, MEV
>
> *Don’t have sex with a man as one does with a woman. That is abhorrent.* — Leviticus 18:22, MSG
>
> *You are not to lie with a man, as with a woman—that is an abomination.* — Leviticus 18:22, TLV
In NLT for instance, *"Do not practice homosexuality"* because *"it is a detestable sin"*. Pretty damn clear in my opinion. In others it's reduced to *"shall not lie with a man"* or *"you are not to lie with a man"* because it's *"a detestable practice"* or *"it is abhorrent"*.
Some of those Bible versions were written specifically by gay churches. Metropolitan Community Churches (a gay denomination) specifically uses only one Bible version and discussing other versions is prohibited.
Personally, I prefer my Bible to call a spade a spade, in a version of English that I use myself.
I've been listening to Stone Choir's recently series on the Septuagint, and how every Old Testament translation NOT based on this is jew corrupted (KJV even). Its very enlightening when they do comparisons between the masoretic (rabbinic) text vs Septuagint.
Very interesting. I never heard about this. I just looked into the NLT that I read:
> *The Old Testament translation was based on the Masoretic Text (Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia) and was further compared to other sources such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, Septuagint, Greek manuscripts, Samaritan Pentateuch, Syriac Peshitta, and Latin Vulgate. The New Testament translation was based on the two standard editions of the Greek New Testament*
That sounds ok on the surface, but it's missing some verses that are only in the Septuagint, and entire Books; Tobit, Judith, Maccabees 1 & 2, etc.
Thanks for posting this. I'm pretty pissed off right now. I don't really get hung up on the whole direct translation stuff since the languages have evolved and changed entirely several times, but omitting entire books and many verses definitely sounds very 7th to 10th century jewish to me.
> *Masoretic Text (MT) is the text that was carefully preserved and transmitted by Jewish scholars known as the Masoretes from around the 7th to the 10th centuries.*
> *The Old Testament translation was based on the Masoretic Text (Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia) and was further compared to other sources such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, Septuagint, Greek manuscripts, Samaritan Pentateuch, Syriac Peshitta, and Latin Vulgate. The New Testament translation was based on the two standard editions of the Greek New Testament*
That sounds ok on the surface, but it's missing some verses that are only in the Septuagint, and entire Books; Tobit, Judith, Maccabees 1 & 2, etc.
Thanks for posting this. I'm pretty pissed off right now. I don't really get hung up on the whole direct translation stuff since the languages have evolved and changed entirely several times, but omitting entire books and many verses definitely sounds very 7th to 10th century jewish to me.
> *Masoretic Text (MT) is the text that was carefully preserved and transmitted by Jewish scholars known as the Masoretes from around the 7th to the 10th centuries.*
Well, there's the Very Lutheran Project that's working on what they call the Catacomb Synod. Basically actually Based church at home (aka House Church [which has been running for a few years now]) and meetup church at an agreed upon place (Frontline Church [which they're just starting this year]). It's growing around the country and set to get bigger as they're reaching out to activist groups/Active clubs to offer training to one of their group members to become a Chaplain to then in turn help those guys find The Lord.
https://www.verylutheran.biz/vlpguide
The Director of the project also does The Godcast podcast as well. https://thegodcast.libsyn.com/
Not that they're a replacement for actual church but the Stone Choir guys have some really great insights into scripture as well as other every day topics. I can't praise them highly enough.
Their latest series on the Septuagint is pretty fascinating and I'm quite enjoying it but I'd advise that you keep in mind it's important not to get wrapped around the axle too much regarding translations. If all you have is an ESV bible you'll get to Heaven just the same as any other.
https://www.verylutheran.biz/vlpguide
The Director of the project also does The Godcast podcast as well. https://thegodcast.libsyn.com/
Not that they're a replacement for actual church but the Stone Choir guys have some really great insights into scripture as well as other every day topics. I can't praise them highly enough.
Their latest series on the Septuagint is pretty fascinating and I'm quite enjoying it but I'd advise that you keep in mind it's important not to get wrapped around the axle too much regarding translations. If all you have is an ESV bible you'll get to Heaven just the same as any other.
The New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist movement is great. If you can't find a local church, you can at least watch their sermons online.
https://rumble.com/v6bbepj-the-bible-way-to-heaven-pastor-steven-anderson.html
https://rumble.com/c/c-5566623?e9s=src_v1_sa
https://rumble.com/v6bbepj-the-bible-way-to-heaven-pastor-steven-anderson.html
https://rumble.com/c/c-5566623?e9s=src_v1_sa
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So, some things to look for:
1. *Any* women in positions of authority over men. Automatic no-go.
2. Exclusively biblical teachings from a non-pozzed version. NKV is my preferred translation.
3. Any discussion of Jews as the current chosen of God. This is fundamentally false doctrine, as the coming of Jesus *fulfilled* the first Covenant of the Old Testament, and instituted a 2nd, *new* Covenant allowing *all* of us to be God's Chosen, through the blood of Jesus.