Incoming internet drama. Just wanted to give a heads up about a user.
u/GoldenInnosStatue was right about u/Conspirologist.
Conspirologist recently made this thread claiming that c/ConsumeProduct, c/MGTOW, and c/conspiracies are USAID shills and jews:
https://communities.win/c/conspiracy/p/19BGTYa0Dh/x/c
That thread crossed my feed, so I asked him what evidence he had that ConPro was USAID. He refused to answer, and only put forth the claim that GoldenInnosStatue was mean. I don't disagree that the MGTOW board is quite weird, with obvious shills like u/TheImpossible1, but ConPro certainly isn't USAID. In any case, Conspirologist moderates the c/conspiracy board (where he made these threads), and instead of answering my question, he deletes the thread, bans me, and restarts the thread to push his message in a new post without my questioning.
Here's the new thread:
https://communities.win/c/conspiracy/p/19BGY69oCk/consumeproduct-conspiracies-mgto/c
Here's what he said in his ban message to me:
"You are now restricted from posting in conspiracy indefinitely. Fuck off, shitspam clown. If you want to appeal your restriction, please read the community rules and reply to this message."
You were right Golden.
We get trolls here from time to time who love to claim ConPro, or genuine users here, are shills, to sow discord and throw shade at us. Because our banning of these idiots is usually quite rapid, with how quickly they reveal themselves, lately they've been attempting to play longer games, and say the right things, while their behavior reveals their true intentions. Just saying "kike" and "nigger" doesn't make one genuine. Keep an eye out for these subversives.
No one actually wants free speech. What people want is a bouncer at the door that's going to snap the neck of any faggot that attempts to gain entry. In the days of yore, you could say anything you wanted in public, but you had better be prepared for the public beat down that followed if you were full of shit. In the realm of the internet, we obviously cannot beat people, thus the allegory of the bouncer that will obliterate you.
With that said, the conspiracy guy who was never coherent then moves to claim conspiracies about the users of Consume Product. Most of the guys here are fairly normal guys. We have all sorts of back channels established of communicating with each other about mundane subjects like farming and working out. The 2 things jews would never do.
Any "trad caths" who want to fling shit at me because I call out their literal jew pope who prays to other God's at mosques and advocates for queer ideology is free to do so.
The word "pagan" means less than some antifa faggot calling everything "fascism". If you're telling me I cannot follow the faith of my ancestors because I have to be an idol worshipping faggot jew advocate or I'm not doing right then you can get bent.
Let alone the psyop that Jesus was an advocate for complete pacifism when there's scripture as from the book of Mathew that says "I have not come to bring peace, but a sword".
Race, language, and religion are all intertwined. Our identity is not stripped down atomized individual pieces. Aryan "paganism" is the legacy of our ancestors. Christianity in its current form, no matter if it started that way or not, is being used as a tool for pacification and enforcing Babylonian global homogeneity.
Catholics are really horrible at this but even they will concede, most of the time, that fealty to a literal faggot jew pope who prays to other God's is a bit too far. They're not as bad as Zionist evangelicals, but still.
There's a much deeper conversation here than calling everything "pagan".
Other than that, I also like to compare what I can find from older religions and compare them to what we have in Christianity. It's very hard to find anything on really old belief structures that have not been jewified. The anthropologist Robert Sepulcher (jew) likes to claim that ancient Aryans had massive orgies like the Canaanites did (his people). Which is a lie.
Gatekeeping on spelling is a weak argument. Because I didn't spell it WoTan or break out my other keyboard in elder Futhark and use straight up runes doesn't have anything to do with the conversation.
I'm more than familiar with Sepehr. His father is an Iranian jew which Germany allegedly issued Aryan certificates to suggesting they had an idea about who the real Judean Israelites versus the fake jews were. He claims his grandfather on his mother's side was in the SS. So I would rather look at the information he provides and see if it checks out rather than using character assassination to discredit discussion on topics I find interesting.
For example, as far as I'm concerned he's been spearheading the pushback against the "out of africa theory" and using hard genetic evidence to support it which mainstream anthropology is only recently catching up to.
Are you familiar with Cheddar man? Would you suggest that the original British were ape like niggers because one half Iranian (rooted in the word Aryan) jew half German said otherwise? Then you would have gone full circle to swallowing what is outright marxist propaganda by jews because someone who is also a jew has a dissenting opinion with evidence to back it up.
You might as well say ben shapiro is based because he yells at 19 year old trannies.
How's the quote go? Intelligent people talk about ideas, retards talk about people.
Cheddar man wasn't black. Everyone knows that. To entertain the idea is to introduce drama where it's completely unwarranted.
Gatekeeping is 100% necessary to keep out spergs who think history is a Marvell film.
With all of that aside, are you actually upset with me?
What argument am I making up? The Cheddar man example? It's illustrating my point. Ideas over personal drama.
Take the police for example. Fentanyl floyd overdosed and the prosecution of Derek chauvin is a travesty of justice for marxist ends. We all know it. That being said, I'm not going to wave my blue lives matter flag next to my molon labe stickers like a boomer retard because the people who are going to drag us off to the gulag for posting dank memes are going to be wearing badges. Does that make sense?
Sepehr is fantastic and discrediting him because he's half Iranian jew is as ridiculous as marxists disregarding all of biology because any suggestion that races are different besides skin tone makes you a Nazi, which he also gets accusations of discussing the history of the Swastika and so forth.
Intelligent people talk about ideas, stupid people talk about people.
Usually, the shills out themselves quite quickly. But, they sometimes post a few comments, say a few of the right things, try to skirt around the handshake rule, and then start pushing the shilling and discord. This can result in shills and genuine users skirting close to the lines of what would be considered normal ConPro discourse, giving shills more time to post and comment, in the hopes of preventing genuine users from being banned.
Other mods have less patience than I do, though.
This could quickly turn into a meta conversation. When is free speech curtailed? Some guy who's genuine to what he is starts going off about how he wants to fuck kids. We have free speech. Do we have to allow this guy to continue to speak? Our Christian ancestors would not allow it at all. Decency laws existed for a reason. The degenerates continually poke and prod at decency here to see what they can get away with. The MGTOW faggots telling young kids to end their genetic lines would never been tolerated by our Christian ancestors.
Without the ability to outright brawl with the offending speaker, then free speech means nothing. Because of this, the moderators must be moral men who will not tolerate nonsense and depravity.
I remember we regularly hit the front page for Hot, and how he got us banned from there because of brigading. Also I bet you he’s the pedo-spammer.