i have identified 2 types of white nationalist movements. There could be more, or a mix of the 2, but i'm going to stick to the 2 types to make my argument.
First off are the *militants*, and i will be using Rockwell's ANP and Pierce's National Alliance as examples.
Rockwell failed because of multiple factors : first, he was stuck in a really unfortunate period to try and pull any sort of revolution or even a political takeover. The world was good. America was over 85% white still, and they were still on the high of "winning" the second world war. "NAZIS ARE THE WORST THING EVER" was still very much in the mind of the normies. When times are good and propaganda is heavy, there is no reason for the normie to question, to rebel, that would take him OUT of his comfort zone, and the TV is just so entertaining...and when the normie won't join you, you're stuck with the outcasts, either autists or volatile people, and keeping people like that in line to actually create a movement is like trying to keep in line a slightly saner dirlewanger brigade, good luck doing it. Rockwell tried, and one of them killed him. He gave good and compelling speeches to those who would listen to them like his brown university lecture, but that was all overshadowed by his agitation and loud-and-proud propaganda efforts which made him an easy, easy target for the jews in the media.
Pierce even called him out on this, saying that his movement needs "The winners", the scientists, the doctors, the professors, respectable people. He claimed to turn away the skinheads and the edgelords, yet this was mostly just talk. He hung around and had people like Bob Matthews or Möbus of absurd. Actual attempted revolutionaries and edgelord killers. He did this because of the same reason Rockwell did, he had to. The world was just too good. The TV was still just too entertaining. According to a census i found from 1970, the united states was 87.5% white then. Pierce started his National Alliance in 1974, and conditions were too good for any "Couch potatoes" as Pierce called them to consider getting off their asses to do something to make it even better in a way resembling Rockwell's vision, let alone something more radical like Pierce. Look, say what you will, but normies won't appreciate a man that writes books like The Turner Diaries, they'll recoil from him even more so when things around them don't look too bad.
Then you have the idea of *accelerationism*. I simply don't believe any white nationalist organization can seize power in a power vacuum, assuming one would be allowed in the first place. The ZOG would crack down hard, and assuming even they are part of this supposed collapse, other governments would surely step in to take over.
*Onto the second type, which are the edgelords*. The meme guys. The "handsome truth" the "Gypsy crusader" types. Simply put, these guys attract people with edgy humor. That's it. There's no goal, there's no vision, there's no movement. There's nothing beyond provocative antics and selling shitty merch. They will still be on omegle screaming nigger in 10 years. Their wigger personas, the fact that some of them aren't even white, and their loud, brash obnoxious brand of "activism" also turns away anyone but other edgelords who are in it for a laugh. And that is assuming that these guys themselves are genuine and not just grifters.
*Why Hitler succeeded* : Crisis. It's as simple as that, and it's why i don't think the government will ever allow it to get as bad as it was in weimar times. The german people were on the brink of total destruction, they were in economic ruin, they weren't able to feed themselves, they were humiliated, they were demoralized and their very minds and values were under attack by jewish degeneracy like the frankfurt school. EVERYONE was having a rough time, which meant they were open to new solutions. They needed a hero, and a hero they got. Hitler started speaking from the heart, he spoke to his fellow men in the trenches, then to workers at factories, to random people in taverns, he spoke to everyone who would listen, he laid out his ideas and asked his fellow germans to help and follow him. And that they did. He was presentable, he was honest, he called out the jewish problem as he saw it, he was charismatic and he was a true believer with a fire in him, determined to help pull Germany from the cliff and onto its rightful place as a powerhouse of Europe. He wasn't some swarthy shitskin yelling "KIKE" at random jews on the street. He was a real, honest leader, from the volk there to help them, and that is why he succeeded. He was able to gain such mass support with his "radical" ideas (by weimar standards) because the conditions were bad enough that normies would hear him out and listen to reason.
That is why i do not believe we will ever get in a weimar-like era economically, because that's when revolutions happen. The jew will keep boiling the frog, bringing in invaders to dilute and replace us until we are weak and outnumbered enough, then simply genocide the stragglers and rule over the ashes with endless brown slaves under him.
Bonus : *Why the jew succeeds*. The jew succeeds because he has evolved to act in a soulless manner. He has evolved to backstab anyone and everyone and to try and destroy anyone that's not of his immediate genetic kin. He has also written his religion to facilitate this survival strategy. "Everything is moral if it is done against the goyim, in fact, undermining and destroying the goyim is NECESSARY" is the basic thesis of the jewish religion. He has shrouded his innate supremacist snake-like nature in mysticism, to justify his evil both to himself and to those with the slightest bit of regret in the back of their minds. The ones whose conscience eats away at them. They win because they are ruthless. They win because they are soulless, and last but certainly not least they win because they are the most fiercely collectivist group of people on the face of this planet. Blacks calling each other "brother" or "sister" is nothing compared to the love the jew has for his own and the vile hatred he has for everyone else. A jew can be born in the united states, live among white americans his whole life, break bread with them, grow up around them, be completely "assimilated" in the american's eyes, yet the jew feels no closer to these americans than you do to any other stranger. In fact, he's even more distant. He hates these goyim he's been around. He wants nothing more than to humiliate, ruin and destroy them in every possible way before murdering them. This jew can then go on a trip to israel for just one day and immediately feel much closer, express much more brotherhood and fellowship for another jew he met right after he got off the plane than what he would feel about americans who have been his neighbors and "friends" for decades.
First off are the *militants*, and i will be using Rockwell's ANP and Pierce's National Alliance as examples.
Rockwell failed because of multiple factors : first, he was stuck in a really unfortunate period to try and pull any sort of revolution or even a political takeover. The world was good. America was over 85% white still, and they were still on the high of "winning" the second world war. "NAZIS ARE THE WORST THING EVER" was still very much in the mind of the normies. When times are good and propaganda is heavy, there is no reason for the normie to question, to rebel, that would take him OUT of his comfort zone, and the TV is just so entertaining...and when the normie won't join you, you're stuck with the outcasts, either autists or volatile people, and keeping people like that in line to actually create a movement is like trying to keep in line a slightly saner dirlewanger brigade, good luck doing it. Rockwell tried, and one of them killed him. He gave good and compelling speeches to those who would listen to them like his brown university lecture, but that was all overshadowed by his agitation and loud-and-proud propaganda efforts which made him an easy, easy target for the jews in the media.
Pierce even called him out on this, saying that his movement needs "The winners", the scientists, the doctors, the professors, respectable people. He claimed to turn away the skinheads and the edgelords, yet this was mostly just talk. He hung around and had people like Bob Matthews or Möbus of absurd. Actual attempted revolutionaries and edgelord killers. He did this because of the same reason Rockwell did, he had to. The world was just too good. The TV was still just too entertaining. According to a census i found from 1970, the united states was 87.5% white then. Pierce started his National Alliance in 1974, and conditions were too good for any "Couch potatoes" as Pierce called them to consider getting off their asses to do something to make it even better in a way resembling Rockwell's vision, let alone something more radical like Pierce. Look, say what you will, but normies won't appreciate a man that writes books like The Turner Diaries, they'll recoil from him even more so when things around them don't look too bad.
Then you have the idea of *accelerationism*. I simply don't believe any white nationalist organization can seize power in a power vacuum, assuming one would be allowed in the first place. The ZOG would crack down hard, and assuming even they are part of this supposed collapse, other governments would surely step in to take over.
*Onto the second type, which are the edgelords*. The meme guys. The "handsome truth" the "Gypsy crusader" types. Simply put, these guys attract people with edgy humor. That's it. There's no goal, there's no vision, there's no movement. There's nothing beyond provocative antics and selling shitty merch. They will still be on omegle screaming nigger in 10 years. Their wigger personas, the fact that some of them aren't even white, and their loud, brash obnoxious brand of "activism" also turns away anyone but other edgelords who are in it for a laugh. And that is assuming that these guys themselves are genuine and not just grifters.
*Why Hitler succeeded* : Crisis. It's as simple as that, and it's why i don't think the government will ever allow it to get as bad as it was in weimar times. The german people were on the brink of total destruction, they were in economic ruin, they weren't able to feed themselves, they were humiliated, they were demoralized and their very minds and values were under attack by jewish degeneracy like the frankfurt school. EVERYONE was having a rough time, which meant they were open to new solutions. They needed a hero, and a hero they got. Hitler started speaking from the heart, he spoke to his fellow men in the trenches, then to workers at factories, to random people in taverns, he spoke to everyone who would listen, he laid out his ideas and asked his fellow germans to help and follow him. And that they did. He was presentable, he was honest, he called out the jewish problem as he saw it, he was charismatic and he was a true believer with a fire in him, determined to help pull Germany from the cliff and onto its rightful place as a powerhouse of Europe. He wasn't some swarthy shitskin yelling "KIKE" at random jews on the street. He was a real, honest leader, from the volk there to help them, and that is why he succeeded. He was able to gain such mass support with his "radical" ideas (by weimar standards) because the conditions were bad enough that normies would hear him out and listen to reason.
That is why i do not believe we will ever get in a weimar-like era economically, because that's when revolutions happen. The jew will keep boiling the frog, bringing in invaders to dilute and replace us until we are weak and outnumbered enough, then simply genocide the stragglers and rule over the ashes with endless brown slaves under him.
Bonus : *Why the jew succeeds*. The jew succeeds because he has evolved to act in a soulless manner. He has evolved to backstab anyone and everyone and to try and destroy anyone that's not of his immediate genetic kin. He has also written his religion to facilitate this survival strategy. "Everything is moral if it is done against the goyim, in fact, undermining and destroying the goyim is NECESSARY" is the basic thesis of the jewish religion. He has shrouded his innate supremacist snake-like nature in mysticism, to justify his evil both to himself and to those with the slightest bit of regret in the back of their minds. The ones whose conscience eats away at them. They win because they are ruthless. They win because they are soulless, and last but certainly not least they win because they are the most fiercely collectivist group of people on the face of this planet. Blacks calling each other "brother" or "sister" is nothing compared to the love the jew has for his own and the vile hatred he has for everyone else. A jew can be born in the united states, live among white americans his whole life, break bread with them, grow up around them, be completely "assimilated" in the american's eyes, yet the jew feels no closer to these americans than you do to any other stranger. In fact, he's even more distant. He hates these goyim he's been around. He wants nothing more than to humiliate, ruin and destroy them in every possible way before murdering them. This jew can then go on a trip to israel for just one day and immediately feel much closer, express much more brotherhood and fellowship for another jew he met right after he got off the plane than what he would feel about americans who have been his neighbors and "friends" for decades.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for asserting something no one questioned. We have the people. We have all the people we will ever have. You know nothing about human psychology.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting I directly replied to you saying it.
Chronically wrong.
>Exactly what you said.
Chronically wrong.
>Did the Dodo stray from God’s grace or something? Or maybe you just have no clue what you’re talking about.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting that “not doing something” is not “doing something.”
Chronically wrong.
>The guy who said to stop wasting time with “mass propaganda campaigns” does not support your memes.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting you have not posted a single citation in defense of your claims.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting you don’t know.
Chronically wrong.
>Meta.
"Meta."
>Thanks for admitting you have no proof.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting everything I said is fact.
Chronically wrong.
>Directly cited proof I am correct.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting that victory says the opposite of what you are doing.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting you have no idea what history says.
Chronically wrong.
>They are not.
Chronically wrong.
>They do not. They never have in human history.
Chronically wrong, though Jesus hasn't returned yet, and these actions lead to the shooting of jews. So you would also be saying you're wrong in that shooting jews doesn't lead to total jew death because it never has in the history of man. But the jewish pharisee sophist like you can't see basic reality.
>Zero links. Zero citations. Zero data. Zero sources for claims. You have admitted you cannot quantify any of this addition.
Chronically wrong.
>Global white population decreasing. Zero of your efforts have changed this. Global white culture being erased. Zero of your efforts have changed this. Global white land shrinking. Zero of your efforts have changed this.
It's almost as if this was prophesied. Meanwhile, you say "there's no reason left to live" and "kill your self." I say "do everything you can with what God gave you." I wonder which one God's promises refer to?
>Commit suicide immediately.
Chronically wrong. It's so funny when you say something stupid, post a quote, and the quote literally proves you wrong.
>Illiteracy confirmed.
Chronically wrong.
>So you can’t answer the question, got it.
Chronically wrong.
>“NUH UH” is not a rebuttal.
Chronically wrong. When you claim something false that's proven false with your own citations, it's a rebuttal.
>Where’s your boat.
Right in front of you, but your jewish eyes can't see it.
>Thanks for admitting the Romans did something and you are doing nothing.
You said anything less than total jewish death is doing nothing, so once again you contradict your self.
>Commit suicide immediately.
Chronically wrong.
>Illiteracy confirmed.
Chronically wrong.
>So you can’t answer the question, got it.
Chronically wrong and refuses the answer.
>“BY REFUSING TO SUPPORT IDEOLOGIES THAT DON’T KILL WHITES’ ENEMIES, YOU SUPPORT NOT KILLING WHITES’ ENEMIES!”
Zero effort.
You are only supporting ideologies that don't kill Whites' enemies. Chronically wrong.
>"BY REFUSING TO SUPPORT IDEOLOGIES THAT DON’T KILL WHITES’ ENEMIES, YOU SUPPORT NOT KILLING WHITES’ ENEMIES!”
Chronically wrong.
>Thank you for admitting that you have no idea what my proposed methods are.
Chronically wrong. Reminder: "There’s no reason left to live for here. There’s no remaining way to make a reason to live for here. There’s no justification for continuing to live if and when all actions taken will be either against God, outside God, or erased to godlessness within a generation. If it’s something done only for “my time,” it wasn’t worth doing (or it wasn’t done correctly). We refuse to act. We refuse to behave correctly. We refuse to defend ourselves. As such, the only recourse is for Him to return. If, within the window of opportunity, He does not return–and because we cannot estimate, predict, or confirm His return–physical revolution against the world must occur, as it is the only remaining recourse."
>Thanks for admitting you have no idea what history says.
Chronically wrong.
>Repeatedly done so.
Not a single time. Chronically wrong.
>No, you’ve expressly denounced the very existence of this point and refused to quantify it in any capacity. You reject the mere concept of there ever being a point at which violence can be reached.
Chronically wrong, and it's actually exactly what you're doing.
>Thanks for admitting you don’t know what reality is and that you cannot know the truth.
"Meta."
>Thanks for admitting that your entire comment chain is invalidated.
Chronically wrong.
>Never happened. You have provided zero evidence, citations, sources, links, or data.
Chronically wrong.
>Paid jewish shill confirmed.
Chronically wrong.
>Minimum viable population is 10,000 with totalitarian, centralized eugenic controls. Is this your end goal at which point you will actually fight back? Yes or no. Answer the question. One word. Don’t bother trying to deflect.
Not everyone in the population is equal, nor does everyone have to shoot jews to "fight back," and taking steps to reach the point of shooting jews is "fighting back." No amount of your sophistry will change that.
>Sophistry again.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting that you reject the contents of the Bible as written two thousand years ago. Commit suicide immediately, jew.
Chronically wrong. It's literally what you've been doing this whole time.
>Thanks for admitting you’re not doing that.
Chronically wrong.
>Exact opposite, in fact. Meanwhile you denounce the very idea that whites can succeed against jews.
Chronically wrong. It's what you're doing, actually.
>Don’t bother denying it. Commit suicide.
Chronically wrong.
>Proof you’re not reading the replies.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for confirming you have no idea how algorithms work. Post the word ‘jew’ on the News board on this website and act mystified that your comment is invisible to literally everyone else on the website, no matter how many times you post it. Commit suicide.
Chronically wrong. You should spend some time with normalfag communities before you try assuming how it works.
>Clear falsehood, disproven by the sheer lack of behavior to this effect in the real world, as per your abject refusal to provide any evidence whatsoever of your claims.
Chronically wrong.
>This is the entire conversation. You posted zero links. It is impossible for you to hide from this now. Commit suicide immediately.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting the direct quote of your comment says exactly that.
Chronically wrong.
>Thanks for admitting you are physically incapable of linking any citations or sources as to this claim.
Chronically wrong.
>What were your two previous account names, admitted paid jewish shill?
I've only ever used this account for this website. You still managed to be chronically wrong here, too.
>God will do to you what He sees fit. It will involve eternal damnation, jew who has publicly admitted it thinks the Bible is a hoax.
Chronically wrong. That would be you, little jew. You act White, you pretend to be White, you want all the benefits of being White, but none of the responsibility. You will see this conversation played back to you in Judgement and be forced to see every single sin and lie you've committed. Assuming that you are actually White as you claim. You are the one who has publicly admitted that you think the Bible is a hoax.
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