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Europeans have always been the most advanced race of humans for all of history. They were on top of the food chain well before Christianity came along. The Romans weren't building rocket ships not because they weren't loving their enemies and turning the other cheek—it's because they just hadn't made it there yet.
I can flip it back on you. Why is every non-White Christian society an utter shit hole? The fact that it has no civilizing effect on lesser races (which contradicts its own priors) and offers no meaningful benefit to an already superior race is one of the strongest data points to suggest that it's all hokey.
Do you even know what turn the other cheek means?
Because your question wasn't a question, and you know it. It was loaded rhetoric. Obviously—Whites reached their technological peak post Christianity.
Instead, I dissected your limp-wristed gotcha and explained how Christianity was not the driving factor in Whites achieving that peak. They were already heading in that direction sans Christianity, and may have even gotten there faster without it for all we know. *You* are the one who has left *my* argument unaddressed.
> durr when jesus says love your enemies it actually means kill them
Breathe through your nose, cretin.
Now that you admit it was post Christianity, ask yourself, which values changed among White groups pre and post? Plenty of Whites were living like beasts if we trust Roman accounts, which I do.
You talk of every denomination being cucked. Since you're the expert, you should be able to address the flaws of each. You won't though will you. Even in the Bible it warns of the false preachers and most Christians being lukewarm. Following the Bible, not the preachers, Christians should know that mixing of peoples is frowned upon. That letting yourself be bullied is frowned upon. That standing up for your people and life is good and righteous.
What are your arguments against God being real? Are you atheist or agnostic? You can't deny Jesus existed, whether he's the Son of God could be discussed, but you call Christianity cucked, you don't call it bullshit. Why is that?
So you admit you don't know what turn the other cheek means?
"muh exception negates the rule"
Whether conscious or not, this rhetoric is racial self-loathing, and you should be ashamed of it.
Again (again)—beyond being insulting to what Whites had already demonstrated themselves capable of doing, the notion that they were a bunch of cave niggers who got civilized by Christianity is just logistically wrong. Whites as a whole were already massively technologically and morally advanced compared to everyone else, and there's nothing to suggest that trend wouldn't have continued its natural emergence without Christianity. Germanics already displayed fierce monogamy as racial morality without any influence from the Christian bible.
And again (again)—I'll flip it back on you, even though I'm sure you'll continue to conveniently ignore it: Why were the *actual* cave niggers never civilized by Christianity despite it being proliferated among them?
You can't acknowledge this because it disproves your baseless assertion that religion overrides race in manifesting society.
> You talk of every denomination being cucked. Since you're the expert, you should be able to address the flaws of each. You won't though will you.
Ahahahahahaha
You really wanna contest *this* point? This is like saying "You talk of every dictionary being alphabetized. But you won't go and show me the inside of every single dictionary to prove it, will you?" Take the briefest look at virtually *any* denomination and this question answers itself quickly.
I could probably find at least one instance of nigger worship/even fag tolerance from every single major denomination. But try finding any that are explicitly pro-*White.* Almost non existent except for fringe groups that were only pro-White by implication, like the Amish or Branch Davidians.
> What are your arguments against God being real?
This is irrelevant to all of my arguments, but I'm a theist. I believe in God and keep a daily prayer rule.
> you call Christianity cucked, you don't call it bullshit
It's cucked (because of its teachings) and it's bullshit (because its claims are dubious.)
Jesus may have been a real person, but the divine narrative surrounding him isn't truer than any other myth.
Christianity has never even been able to keep its own story straight, for as long as its existed. Our oldest Christian documents (Paul's letters) are steeped in the depths of theological shit-flinging we don't have the full context for. "The Church" has been infighting and splintering itself since its conception, and most of the denominations today disagree with each other to a staunch enough degree that I'm comfortable classifying them as distinct religions.
So you'd have to elaborate on which Christianity you're even talking about. Catholic? Orthodox? Calvinist? Lutheran? At least one of them is hellbound. Or all of them.
> So you admit you don't know what turn the other cheek means?
You're going to try and tell me it means "don't stoop to someone's level" or some such. BS. Taken in totality, and in light of each other, the only intellectually honest reading of Jesus's teachings is that they slant heavily towards material pacifism. You can't get this image of a warrior-god Jesus without making him a gestalt with the OT god and/or the Revelation fever dream.
If you had nothing but the gospels to read from, that argument would be virtually impossible to make.