Amazon's mechanical turk is still better than the best AI. Even the lowest class members of India do a better job at menial tasks than the best AI ever will.
This word "AI" only has power because we think it has power. It, like "3D TV", is nothing without someone willing to pony up cash to sing in the choir.
i disagree. not with the sentiment about calling 'artificial intelligence' but that i prefer a bit of code running a machine than any one or thing from india trying to grift me something.
I once thought of trying to use the generative AI to write code. But I'd have to go through the code and understand it before I could tell if it's code I'd actually run. And gen AI doesn't create concise and clear solutions, it's often convoluted, so it'd be like reading code written by an incompetent child. That's the kind of code it generates.
It will NEVER replace code hand-written by an intelligent person. We're already seeing this prophecy fulfilled in the software world. People THINK they are more productive, but they are not, because they are creating software they can't understand, they can't modify, and they can't fix.
I don't have any models running on my machine, not for anything. I know how they work, and a good rule-based system is very much superior to the best it can produce. It's way easier to "teach" a system basic rules about stuff than it is to get AI / ML to produce anything useful.
> AI will do it in ways that no human has ever conceived
If by "human" they mean their own limited imaginations, then I agree.
If by "human" they mean the entire race of mankind, including the people that figured out how machines actually worked and turned them into useful devices, then no, we have pretty much imagined everything there is to imagine about how programs can work and AI ain't it.
> how to take a package from A to B
You'll be pleased to know that this problem is not solvable, not with any number of machines. Computers can tell us how long it will take, how much it will cost, but someone with a brain needs to figure out a good way to organize it. Old guys with pads of paper are writing up better distribution algorithms to ship packages from A to B than computers could ever come up with.
> robotic labor
The computer barista problem is an entirely different problem than what AI / ML is trying to solve. People get confused about these two things. Just because a program can create a bunch of words or draw a picture that almost looks like a human created it doesn't mean it will be able to make a cup of coffee.
The truth is we live in a reality where we need semi-intelligent beings layered in complicated structures to figure out how to move a package from point A to point B. Computers will never replace a forklift driver, a shift manager, a truck driver, etc...
they all need you; we sure as fuck dont need them
This word "AI" only has power because we think it has power. It, like "3D TV", is nothing without someone willing to pony up cash to sing in the choir.
i disagree. not with the sentiment about calling 'artificial intelligence' but that i prefer a bit of code running a machine than any one or thing from india trying to grift me something.
I once thought of trying to use the generative AI to write code. But I'd have to go through the code and understand it before I could tell if it's code I'd actually run. And gen AI doesn't create concise and clear solutions, it's often convoluted, so it'd be like reading code written by an incompetent child. That's the kind of code it generates.
It will NEVER replace code hand-written by an intelligent person. We're already seeing this prophecy fulfilled in the software world. People THINK they are more productive, but they are not, because they are creating software they can't understand, they can't modify, and they can't fix.
I don't have any models running on my machine, not for anything. I know how they work, and a good rule-based system is very much superior to the best it can produce. It's way easier to "teach" a system basic rules about stuff than it is to get AI / ML to produce anything useful.
i once had an argument with some Ai-bros about this.
they claimed "the AI will do it in ways no human as every concieved"
and i, understanding what they meant stated
"if a machine takes 9 months and gigawatts to tell me how to take a package from A to B, then its moot"
segue:
my whole argument was, that i ordered a coffee from this cafe in seattle that had 'AI programmed" CNC arms to perform the tasks of the 'barista'
i support this because it affects nearly all 'menial labor'.
and solving menial labor also solves the 'immigration' argument, imo
hence i am in full favor of robots replacing things.
> AI will do it in ways that no human has ever conceived
If by "human" they mean their own limited imaginations, then I agree.
If by "human" they mean the entire race of mankind, including the people that figured out how machines actually worked and turned them into useful devices, then no, we have pretty much imagined everything there is to imagine about how programs can work and AI ain't it.
> how to take a package from A to B
You'll be pleased to know that this problem is not solvable, not with any number of machines. Computers can tell us how long it will take, how much it will cost, but someone with a brain needs to figure out a good way to organize it. Old guys with pads of paper are writing up better distribution algorithms to ship packages from A to B than computers could ever come up with.
> robotic labor
The computer barista problem is an entirely different problem than what AI / ML is trying to solve. People get confused about these two things. Just because a program can create a bunch of words or draw a picture that almost looks like a human created it doesn't mean it will be able to make a cup of coffee.
The truth is we live in a reality where we need semi-intelligent beings layered in complicated structures to figure out how to move a package from point A to point B. Computers will never replace a forklift driver, a shift manager, a truck driver, etc...