Yes, he should have gone farther. Manifest Destiny.
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James K. Polk is among the 3 most consequential presidents of the 19th century— he accomplished everything he had set out to do as president and made good on all of his campaign promises in just 1 term. Following our victory in the Mexican-American war, he strong-armed Mexico into giving to the U.S. a tremendous amount of territory that now makes up more than 30% of the lower 48. Should he have went further and taken Cuba, Baja California, the Yucatán and much of northern Mexico? Before answering, keep in mind that a great deal of northern Mexico, Baja California and Cuba is composed primarily of those with purely or majority European ancestry. Should he have pushed for this territory? Or had he already shot us in the foot as a nation by incorporating the territory of a Spanish-speaking country, and thus their inhabitants, into our nation?
No.
When a business becomes too large and spread out -- it becomes unmanageable and bloated. America is so spread out that we ably diminish the our very neighbors. Oh you are an East Coaster, what a faggot. Oh those Southern retards. etc. East Coast values drive West Coast laws that simply do not relate.
America is too big.
There are 150,000 elected officials and 10 times that in staffers for them.
Less is more.
When a business becomes too large and spread out -- it becomes unmanageable and bloated. America is so spread out that we ably diminish the our very neighbors. Oh you are an East Coaster, what a faggot. Oh those Southern retards. etc. East Coast values drive West Coast laws that simply do not relate.
America is too big.
There are 150,000 elected officials and 10 times that in staffers for them.
Less is more.
Wasn’t there a general, I thought like civil war era or around then, who basically believed that we should have conquered all the way down to Panama? It was a big name guy, I can’t remember who, but he talked about how having this huge gaping border (basically somewhat near to what it is now) was retarded and was going to ultimately doom us strategically as a nation, and I think it was effectively Panama that he thought we should get to.
Anyway, he was probably right and it would have been based to have all of Mexico down to Panama as part of the USA, and it would have happened at a time when Americans were actually based, we could have pumped our numbers up so nice.
Anyway, he was probably right and it would have been based to have all of Mexico down to Panama as part of the USA, and it would have happened at a time when Americans were actually based, we could have pumped our numbers up so nice.
The issue is that America really should have never gotten involved with spain and mexico (we basically annexed Texas through illegal immigration, something that the southern invaders use to justify their present invasion), and im pretty sure a main reason we did go to war with Spain/Mexico in the first place is because they were Catholic countries at the time and the (((Freemasons))) infesting the US werent too happy about that.
Before the white Americans started moving into Texas, it was virtually uninhabited. The Mexican government was incapable of managing the population in Mexico City let alone colonizing anything.
The reason why the Mexicans let the Americans in to Texas was (a) they couldn't stop them if they tried and (b) the Americas were like "Yeah, totally we'll follow your laws!"
Of course that was a lie.
America is a colonizing nation. Our people want to go out and find new places to settle and build farms and cities. We are currently colonizing all over the world, quietly. Why do you think we have all these crops to import from 3rd world countries? Hint: It's not the natives growing those crops.
The reason why the Mexicans let the Americans in to Texas was (a) they couldn't stop them if they tried and (b) the Americas were like "Yeah, totally we'll follow your laws!"
Of course that was a lie.
America is a colonizing nation. Our people want to go out and find new places to settle and build farms and cities. We are currently colonizing all over the world, quietly. Why do you think we have all these crops to import from 3rd world countries? Hint: It's not the natives growing those crops.
>Before the white Americans started moving into Texas, it was virtually uninhabited.
Thats the case for 99% of the US, which is why "muh stolen land" is a gay cope made up by jews and sold to the red man, but in the case of Texas, Spain had actually claimed it, and it was scummy to basically colonize it without paying for it like we did with the rest of the country.
Thats the case for 99% of the US, which is why "muh stolen land" is a gay cope made up by jews and sold to the red man, but in the case of Texas, Spain had actually claimed it, and it was scummy to basically colonize it without paying for it like we did with the rest of the country.
"muh stolen land" is always a cope.
God gives land to whoever takes it. Period.
If you own land -- God gave it to you. If you don't, God didn't give it to you.
God literally blesses his people with military might and victory in battle.
It's not rocket science.
> it was scummy to basically colonize it
No, that's how the world works.
Literally, if I decided I wanted to move my family to some other part of the world, and I didn't like the government there, I would be 100% justified to go in with a bunch of my friends and plenty of arms and just take it by force. This is not wrong, and it never has been wrong. Successful people colonize. Unsuccessful people can't stop it.
It's a modern idea that the borders between nations are somehow set in stone. They're not.
God gives land to whoever takes it. Period.
If you own land -- God gave it to you. If you don't, God didn't give it to you.
God literally blesses his people with military might and victory in battle.
It's not rocket science.
> it was scummy to basically colonize it
No, that's how the world works.
Literally, if I decided I wanted to move my family to some other part of the world, and I didn't like the government there, I would be 100% justified to go in with a bunch of my friends and plenty of arms and just take it by force. This is not wrong, and it never has been wrong. Successful people colonize. Unsuccessful people can't stop it.
It's a modern idea that the borders between nations are somehow set in stone. They're not.
America is idealistically representative of Pan-European (White) civilization. Polk's vision didn't go far enough; Canada also should've been annexed!
The biggest issue with "MAGA" people who want to restrict immigration and build "walls" is that they ultimately fail at aspiring to be anything greater. Our border with Mexico is ridiculously large and its security depends on Mexico's cooperation. Likewise, Canada has decimated our collective security with low quality immigrants who either want to take over Canada themselves or invade the United States. Eliminate the security risks and you could have a prosperous homogenous society for centuries.
Those who leave the Europe for the United States know that they are now American. This is the same reason why Pan-European civilization is only feasible in the Americas. Why would a Frenchman give up his identity to unify with the Swedes? Why would the Polish man give up his identity to unify with the Italians? I don't think they should, but that the advantage Americans have that Europeans do not.
"But that's muh globalism!"
What did you think White Nationalism means? What did you think pro-White means?
I could go on more and more about why this would've been perfect, but it seems that the dream of the Pan-European Nation dies a bit more each day. Instead, we find ourselves within an economic zone.
The biggest issue with "MAGA" people who want to restrict immigration and build "walls" is that they ultimately fail at aspiring to be anything greater. Our border with Mexico is ridiculously large and its security depends on Mexico's cooperation. Likewise, Canada has decimated our collective security with low quality immigrants who either want to take over Canada themselves or invade the United States. Eliminate the security risks and you could have a prosperous homogenous society for centuries.
Those who leave the Europe for the United States know that they are now American. This is the same reason why Pan-European civilization is only feasible in the Americas. Why would a Frenchman give up his identity to unify with the Swedes? Why would the Polish man give up his identity to unify with the Italians? I don't think they should, but that the advantage Americans have that Europeans do not.
"But that's muh globalism!"
What did you think White Nationalism means? What did you think pro-White means?
I could go on more and more about why this would've been perfect, but it seems that the dream of the Pan-European Nation dies a bit more each day. Instead, we find ourselves within an economic zone.
I’ve come to similar conclusions as you on all points. It’s sad to see that dream die a slow death with each passing day, but the peoples who had been warring with each other for centuries on the world’s then-smallest continent have been able to accomplish incredible things against large populations with the smallest of numbers; it’s not at all impossible to turn the tide.
Considerations given to or theories about either the inferiority of the losers or the superiority of the victors notwithstanding, what a unified national identity accomplished in the creation and expansion of this unapologetic American project was incredible. More incredible than that would be to see that national identity realized again under a Pan-European banner and all that would follow it.
Should Pan-European thought take hold again, although this time actually in practice and truly accounting for not just the Anglos but our wide variety of European stock, the reality and impracticality of a multiracial future will loom large in the minds of your average White American. In fear of
this, the idealistic belief implicitly held by most White people that our position will forever be maintained simply by the merit of our culture will be replaced by the understanding that our position can only be maintained through strength in numbers. Third-world immigrants of the mid-late 20th and 21st century understand this well and look to prove it themselves if demographic projections are to be believed, but I do believe that White Americans will relearn this before it’s too late.
The expansionist spirit of Jefferson, Jackson, Polk and Teddy still exists in this country, but only in the mind of a few. I believe we’d see a total resurrection of it once we help others realize that we’ve already ceded an incredible amount of territory to the Other without altering our maps to reflect the changes in borders and without a single shot fired.
Considerations given to or theories about either the inferiority of the losers or the superiority of the victors notwithstanding, what a unified national identity accomplished in the creation and expansion of this unapologetic American project was incredible. More incredible than that would be to see that national identity realized again under a Pan-European banner and all that would follow it.
Should Pan-European thought take hold again, although this time actually in practice and truly accounting for not just the Anglos but our wide variety of European stock, the reality and impracticality of a multiracial future will loom large in the minds of your average White American. In fear of
this, the idealistic belief implicitly held by most White people that our position will forever be maintained simply by the merit of our culture will be replaced by the understanding that our position can only be maintained through strength in numbers. Third-world immigrants of the mid-late 20th and 21st century understand this well and look to prove it themselves if demographic projections are to be believed, but I do believe that White Americans will relearn this before it’s too late.
The expansionist spirit of Jefferson, Jackson, Polk and Teddy still exists in this country, but only in the mind of a few. I believe we’d see a total resurrection of it once we help others realize that we’ve already ceded an incredible amount of territory to the Other without altering our maps to reflect the changes in borders and without a single shot fired.
History time.
We had the Spanish-American War, remember that? We occupied Mexico City and took control of it for a long time.
The thing is, the Mexican people are horrible. No one wants them. We PAID the Mexicans to end the war quicker, and took the land they didn't want and couldn't use.
The area between Mexico City and Texas is virtually uninhabitable. Imagine Tattoine. That's what that land looks like. No one really wants it.
We had the Spanish-American War, remember that? We occupied Mexico City and took control of it for a long time.
The thing is, the Mexican people are horrible. No one wants them. We PAID the Mexicans to end the war quicker, and took the land they didn't want and couldn't use.
The area between Mexico City and Texas is virtually uninhabitable. Imagine Tattoine. That's what that land looks like. No one really wants it.
>The area between Mexico City and Texas is virtually uninhabitable.
Not really, tons of farmland down there. Tons of ranching. Tons of logging. Tons of beautiful scenery to turn into parks or upscale towns. A lot of decent American cities are built on far worse land. The only reason northern Mexico looks shitty is because Mexicans runs it like shit.
Not really, tons of farmland down there. Tons of ranching. Tons of logging. Tons of beautiful scenery to turn into parks or upscale towns. A lot of decent American cities are built on far worse land. The only reason northern Mexico looks shitty is because Mexicans runs it like shit.
You're talking about the land in Texas or the land between Texas and Mexico City?
East Texas is amazing and wonderful.
West Texas is the least populated part of the US. A virtually uninhabitable desert with the only natural resource being oil.
Northern Mexico is largely like West Texas. It's a wasteland.
Most of the Western US is the same, except for occasional pockets. Once you cross the Rockies, it gets even worse. The fact that we have cities and farmland there is because of modern inventions like irrigation and such. Without white man to do that sort of thing, it would be a wasteland.
East Texas is amazing and wonderful.
West Texas is the least populated part of the US. A virtually uninhabitable desert with the only natural resource being oil.
Northern Mexico is largely like West Texas. It's a wasteland.
Most of the Western US is the same, except for occasional pockets. Once you cross the Rockies, it gets even worse. The fact that we have cities and farmland there is because of modern inventions like irrigation and such. Without white man to do that sort of thing, it would be a wasteland.
>Without white man to do that sort of thing, it would be a wasteland.
Exactly, there's a ton of potentially useful land in Mexico if only White people were down there to use it. Like I said America has industry in much worse places. Remember the further south you go from the border the more rainfall there is. Plus there's countless mountain ranges down there AKA giant water reservoirs.
Exactly, there's a ton of potentially useful land in Mexico if only White people were down there to use it. Like I said America has industry in much worse places. Remember the further south you go from the border the more rainfall there is. Plus there's countless mountain ranges down there AKA giant water reservoirs.
It would have been worse off. Do you think Mexico is a third world lawless country for no reason? The entire point of annexing Texas was because the Jews wanted the land and those involved were Jews or Freemasons.
There would be a lot more spics, but also more land feasible to grow fruit and vegetables all year around. Which currently is not possible anywhere in the US. Right now the US depends a lot of imported fruit and vegetables from Mexico.
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