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This Week's Discussion Theme: Consoom Male Leadership
In this weekly, we consooom male leadership! There was a tie in the vote, so I picked the less political one to change things up. This one's a little vague, so hopefully I did this one justice. Ah, the humble patriarchy. What has been said that hasn't already been? As we all know, it's been on its way out for several years, through ((various factors)) and ((totally legit reasons that have nothing to do with intent)). We know there are problems, but what do you THINK of the problems, as well as the concept as a whole? Are you full MGTOW or a fan of equality, whatnot? I've seen some very against-the-grain opinions on here, which is great because echo chambers aren't exactly desirable places. As always, remember to keep discussions formal and civil. Please do not fight or flame each other.
You can vote for next week's theme here! https://strawpoll.com/61gD92wEaZw
Discussion ideas:
What might happen, should current trends continue? Will it be exponential or linear in decline?
Is this just a fad of sorts, will society return to its past positions? Do men today still want to be leaders?
How do you perform leadership in everyday life, and how does it benefit you and those around you?
There are numerous aspects of leadership which could be discussed, but I'll just touch upon what u/detransthrowaway asked in the OP, about what will happen in the future, as this is our most pressing issue.
As most here know, all trends upon Western civilization point downward, toward collapse. The people in power are trying to slow roll this collapse for as long as possible, because they know when it hits, it will cause mass violence and all of their corrupted institutions, centers of power, and propaganda outlets will crumble and become worthless. They know that when the violence starts, they lose. Even though they seek ways to stop or mitigate this, all of the evils they array against us naturally degrade society toward collapse. It can't be helped. It's going to happen. The only question is when, and how, and what the people in power will do to stop/fight it.
These downward forces upon society have taken away, and continue to take away, all of our creature comforts, relative safety, and abundance, which have been built up over decades and generations. For example, for the cabal to continue to enrich themselves and fund all of their plans, they must continually print and conjure money out of thin air, increasingly escalating inflation to the point most people can barely afford to eat. Starvation and hyper inflation is one of the surest ways to create a revolt, especially among a populace already primed for it and hate the people in power. This is what happened in Weimar Germany, and caused the Roman empire to collapse, the devaluation of their own currency. The cabal are even creating food shortages by mass killings of food animals. They clearly have an agenda and plan beyond just abject hatred of us, an agenda I'm not currently sure of. But what is sure, are the general trends and what they lead to.
When life gets uncomfortable, when life gets dangerous, when people are faced with threats, they naturally collectivize to pursue mutual interests. The first and most important mutual interest is survival. This is why we always tribe up with people that are like us, that think like us, that care about us, and help us, because the more like us our tribesmen are, the better, safer, healthier, incorruptible, and stronger the tribe is. But, in the current world where collectivization is demonized for White people, strong leaders will be necessary to condense support onto them and grow support beyond local communities, beyond the immediate needs of survival, food, water, shelter, and safety.
Modern politics is entirely curated and the "opposing" sides are controlled by the actual people in power. The mainstream left and right are false choice traps meant to control most of the populace. Once life gets hard and people wake up to the illusion, they escape the false choice trap, becoming political dissidents without a home, seeking alternative groups and leaders to represent them. This is how the cabal entraps the rest of us with another layer of control, by giving us false saviors/leaders. These false leaders serve as condensation points for dissidents, and wear our ideology as a skinsuit, a veneer, saying some "based" things to attract support, but always corrupt the movement and bring those political dissidents back into the curated and controlled sheep fold. As an easy example, Trump is one such figure.
The immediate problem, is that too many of our people are being duped by these false saviors/leaders. Through the institutions that the cabal controls, they prop up those false leaders, and censor the actually strong leaders, so they get fewer eyes upon them and less support than they otherwise would. However, even this 2nd layer of manipulation and control will lose efficacy over time, and even with Trump in office again, many of his supporters stand on the edge of the knife, ready to abandon him if he doesn't cross the Rubicon and do what needs to be done. The recent debacle surrounding the (non)release of the Epstein files shows this. Even on Trump supporter forums, he and his cabinet are getting lots of pushback from people that are fed up, something I never saw during his first presidency. The one fortunate end with Trump's 2nd term is that, it will disillusion more people to false leaders, who will become more critical of such leaders and more savvy, purely out of necessity.
This is what those general downward trends upon society are creating, people with no other options but to collectivize and fight back. The false leaders the cabal are giving us increasingly don't pass the smell test, as even their pretend "based" statements and plans are increasingly being rejected, because our lives continue to get worse and their offered "plans" fix nothing. As a problem festers and gets worse, soo too does the solution become more extreme. The further right on the political spectrum one looks, the less people want to compromise, capitulate, and remain inactive. This is the correct approach. Our problems are many, and our entire people face extinction. We can't compromise one iota. It's truth, or death. Since the false leaders continually offer compromised solutions, they're getting increasing push back and losing support.
As people's misery and destitution increases, they increasingly reject the false choice parties, false leaders, false plans, and false ideologies. They look for people who actually represent them, people who can actually fix their problems, for plans that actually work, regardless of how extreme they are. They increasingly reject the fake societal resistance erected to stop people from pursuing those "extremes", like with people calling us racist and antisemitic, the propaganda outlets and their useful idiots trying to shame us back into compliance. They even pass laws to stop us, which are increasingly ignored, because the misery we face in our daily lives shows us that it's better to resist than to comply, because compliance will result in more of the same, for our lives to continue to get worse. We're seeing these trends everywhere, as vigilantism is increasing across the West, from people who are fed up, and this is only the beginning. It's going to continue to get worse, and these trends will continue to escalate.
An inflection point will be reached, where enough people will be ready for a strong and genuine leader, that the moment that person arises, he will gain massive support in a short time. Just keep in mind, that with the propaganda outlets arrayed against our own people and with the Kalergi plan demographic shift, this won't be a majority of people in a nation. But, it will be enough, if the leader is strong enough. Revolts have never needed majority support, approval, or participation to be successful. This is what we must prepare for, being able to properly vet our leaders, to know who is genuine and who is false, and who is strong and who is weak. The only way this will be accomplished will be with hard won wisdom and experience. However, here are some easy metrics we can apply to leaders to measure them:
1) Do they acknowledge the total reality of the issues, regardless of how unpleasant it is, regardless of how much that acknowledgement will get him maligned by the left and right?
2) Do they know the root causes of issues, down to the very bedrocks, and the ancillary/tangential issues related to the subject?
3) Do they know the true telling of history, especially with regard to the last 100 years?
4) Are they a race realist?
5) Are they funded by jews, in any way?
6) Are they maligned by the mainstream left and right?
7) Are they censored on mainstream platforms?
8) Do government thugs try to stop them from speaking or organizing?
9) Do they acknowledge all of the problems we face?
10) Do they acknowledge the Kalergi plan?
11) Do they have proper and effectual plans for the problems we face?
12) Do they love their own people, beyond just words?
13) Are they willing to get their hands dirty and act, or do they continually just offer words and peace?
14) Do they want to properly punish the people that have been hurting us?
15) Do they believe White people should and need to collectivize?
16) Are they wise and tempered, not a bloodthirsty warmonger, but capable of great violence?
17) Do they advocate for the false path of continually working through entirely corrupted institutions, rather than realizing we must fix things ourselves?
18) Do they know how to congregate effectual sub-leaders and followers to them, or do they drive good people away?
19) Are they capable of building bridges between disparate groups within our own race to achieve mutual goals?
20) Do they tear down their brothers, or lift them up?
21) Do they help their own people, in deeds and action?
22) Do they call out false ideologies, agendas, plans, arguments, behaviors, and people?
23) Are they mostly accurate?
24) Do they reject known false/destructive ideologies, like individualism, usury, banking, capitalism, feminism, conservatism, race blindness, pacifism, relativism, wage slaving, equality, egalitarianism, and cucked/judeo Christianity?
25) Are they willing to suffer to achieve our mutual goals, or only willing to let others suffer on their behalf?
26) Are they passionate and driven, or dulled and sluggish?
27) Are they a good and charismatic speaker?
28) Are they capable of congregating support, even in spite of censorship on mainstream platforms?
29) Do they speak to people in real life, or only speak online?
These are just some of the measurements we can use to determine if a leader is genuine and strong. There are more, of course, but these are a good start. Currently, I see a lot of men on the dissident right who could be leaders, but seem content to only create local groups, to speak occasionally online, but none seem interested in creating larger collectives, which is what we need to effectively fight back and fix things. We need strong leaders. These men, I figure, will arise naturally, as the need arises, and the need right now is already quite strong. But, as I warn, be very wary and stringent in your measurement of such leaders. A bad pick could lead us to temporary defeat, or total ruin.