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I agree with the overall warnings against the ideologies you point out, but whole heartedly disagree that Christianity is any of those things. If Christianity was as weak as you suggest, it would not have conquered all of Europe, kept Europe strong for close to 2000 years, and enabled Europeans to explore, conquer, and colonize the known world.
Your view of Christianity is based on what liars and weak propagandized Christians profess. A thorough reading of the Bible shows that what you suggest just isn't true. For example, nowhere in the Bible does it ever say we should be civic nationalists. I know what verses you might use to suggest otherwise, but those are taken out of context, and without regard to all the other passages which promote race realism and proper nationalism.
However, I do agree that Christianity needs to protect itself from such subversion. We need new churches, new denominations, to root out the evil and corruption, and to give our Christian brothers and sisters a proper home.
According to you a billion Christians are wrong. If I meet a random Christian on the street he is more likely to be a nigger loving civic nationalist than not. How can Christianity have fallen so hard?
Edit: also Christianity is definitely civic nationalist because "White" did not exist two thousand years ago. Christianity was used to unite French and Anglos and Germans and Italians and more. This allowed it to overpower the rest of Europe.
> According to you a billion Christians are wrong. If I meet a random Christian on the street he is more likely to be a nigger loving civic nationalist than not. How can Christianity have fallen so hard?
By your own logic, being White is wrong as well, because most of our White brothers are civnats, MAGA, Republicans, conservatives, even support globalists, leftists, LGBTQ, egalitarianism, feminism, open borders, and ideas like "one race, the human race", that the good guys won WW2, and jews did nothing wrong.
By your own logic, White people are irredeemable.
However, we know White people, and Christians, have been extremely heavily propagandized for nigh on 100 years. Christianity has been thoroughly centered on White Christian Europe for almost the last 2000 years. It only changed the last 100. Why? The propaganda. The subversive infiltration and corruption of our institutions, including the Christian church.
> Edit: also Christianity is definitely civic nationalist because "White" did not exist two thousand years ago. Christianity was used to unite French and Anglos and Germans and Italians and more. This allowed it to overpower the rest of Europe.
This is objectively false. You hate Christianity, so you haven't read the Bible. You cherry pick scriptures you find online, and use the corrupted "interpretation" of those passages, ignoring the context of the passage or the totality of what God and Jesus were teaching and commanding. You need to watch the Stone Choir podcast (https://stone-choir.com/). They go over many of the corruptions, lies, and heresies in the modern Christian church, like feminism, nationalism, LGBTQ, egalitarianism, jews, WW2, slavery, race, etc. They don't cherry pick scripture to "interpret" it the way they want. They use the totality of scripture and the full context of it. In general, I suggest watching them from episode 1, and onward in sequential order. A few of their episodes are censored on Youtube, so you'll have to find them on their own website, or other podcast websites.
But, if you would like, I can also attempt to help you regarding specific Biblical passages. Feel free to quote the passages in the Bible which you think espouse civic nationalism, and I'll explain them, in this thread.
> By your own logic, being White is wrong as well, because most of our White brothers are civnats, MAGA, Republicans, conservatives, even support globalists...
Retarded take. You can stop being Christian. You can't stop being White. Niggers and kikes will never accept a White. Jews survived many purges by "converting".
Christianity is an ideology that keeps morphing. Scofield injected Zionism into it a hundred years ago and it took over many American churches.
I worry about Christian traitors to White nationalism. Christianity hasn't stopped dozens of brother wars.
> You need to watch the Stone Choir podcast (https://stone-choir.com/). They go over many of the corruptions, lies, and heresies in the modern Christian church, like feminism, nationalism, LGBTQ, egalitarianism, jews, WW2, slavery, race, etc.
This is the kind of absurd apologetics I'm used to hearing. While I don't disagree that the Bible is corrupted and misused, see my earlier remarks about Scofield, it begs the question about why it is so easy to manipulate Christians. The religion does not seem to confer special protection or enlightenment.
> Retarded take. You can stop being Christian. You can't stop being White. Niggers and kikes will never accept a White. Jews survived many purges by "converting".
Just because you don't like your own logic arrayed against you, doesn't make it bad, wrong, or "retarded". There's been an extremely malicious and massive propaganda campaign arrayed against White people, and against Christians. At some point you must ask yourself, why the people in power feel so threatened by Christianity, why do they vociferously hate Christians, why did they infiltrate and subvert the Christian church, while also subverting White nations?
> Christianity is an ideology that keeps morphing.
Christianity doesn't change. Truth is immutable. Scripture is very clear on this. Heresies do and have popped up, but most of those have been handled by previous church leadership. We're just in the midst of more heresies, precisely because of the infiltration and corruption of the church, by enemies of the church, who are also enemies of White people.
> I worry about Christian traitors to White nationalism. Christianity hasn't stopped dozens of brother wars.
We've had some poor leaders of the left hand kingdom of God (earthly authorities, government), yes. But, in the nearly 2000 years of Christian Europe, both Christianity and the ethnic homogeneity of Europe was maintained. The Kalergi plan began at almost the same time as the infiltration and subversion of the church, because the same people are pushing both.
> This is the kind of absurd apologetics I'm used to hearing. While I don't disagree that the Bible is corrupted and misused, see my earlier remarks about Scofield, it begs the question about why it is so easy to manipulate Christians.
"Easy"? Are you serious? Do you have any idea how much money, manpower, time, propaganda, and malice has been arrayed against the church (and White people). It took every sector of society, every information exchange medium, to subvert the church (and White nations), and it took decades.
And again, this same logic can be applied to White people. If we can be so easily infiltrated, subverted, corrupted, and turned against each other, are we redeemable and worthy to be saved? By your logic, we aren't, because we're "easily" manipulated. You apply your own rules hypocritically. You hate Christianity, so you unfairly malign it with harsher rules you don't apply evenly to all other things.
> The religion does not seem to confer special protection or enlightenment.
I hope God works in you, and softens your heart, just as he did with me. It took God several decades for His work to come to fruition in me. Hopefully you won't be as stubborn as me.
I'll offer my services again, if you would like to discuss the topic further, about which Biblical passages you think espouse for civic nationalism, or any other subversion. And, again, I suggest listening to Stone Choir. They dismantle all of these topics at length.
Your view of Christianity is based on what liars and weak propagandized Christians profess. A thorough reading of the Bible shows that what you suggest just isn't true. For example, nowhere in the Bible does it ever say we should be civic nationalists. I know what verses you might use to suggest otherwise, but those are taken out of context, and without regard to all the other passages which promote race realism and proper nationalism.
However, I do agree that Christianity needs to protect itself from such subversion. We need new churches, new denominations, to root out the evil and corruption, and to give our Christian brothers and sisters a proper home.
Edit: also Christianity is definitely civic nationalist because "White" did not exist two thousand years ago. Christianity was used to unite French and Anglos and Germans and Italians and more. This allowed it to overpower the rest of Europe.
By your own logic, being White is wrong as well, because most of our White brothers are civnats, MAGA, Republicans, conservatives, even support globalists, leftists, LGBTQ, egalitarianism, feminism, open borders, and ideas like "one race, the human race", that the good guys won WW2, and jews did nothing wrong.
By your own logic, White people are irredeemable.
However, we know White people, and Christians, have been extremely heavily propagandized for nigh on 100 years. Christianity has been thoroughly centered on White Christian Europe for almost the last 2000 years. It only changed the last 100. Why? The propaganda. The subversive infiltration and corruption of our institutions, including the Christian church.
> Edit: also Christianity is definitely civic nationalist because "White" did not exist two thousand years ago. Christianity was used to unite French and Anglos and Germans and Italians and more. This allowed it to overpower the rest of Europe.
This is objectively false. You hate Christianity, so you haven't read the Bible. You cherry pick scriptures you find online, and use the corrupted "interpretation" of those passages, ignoring the context of the passage or the totality of what God and Jesus were teaching and commanding. You need to watch the Stone Choir podcast (https://stone-choir.com/). They go over many of the corruptions, lies, and heresies in the modern Christian church, like feminism, nationalism, LGBTQ, egalitarianism, jews, WW2, slavery, race, etc. They don't cherry pick scripture to "interpret" it the way they want. They use the totality of scripture and the full context of it. In general, I suggest watching them from episode 1, and onward in sequential order. A few of their episodes are censored on Youtube, so you'll have to find them on their own website, or other podcast websites.
But, if you would like, I can also attempt to help you regarding specific Biblical passages. Feel free to quote the passages in the Bible which you think espouse civic nationalism, and I'll explain them, in this thread.
Retarded take. You can stop being Christian. You can't stop being White. Niggers and kikes will never accept a White. Jews survived many purges by "converting".
Christianity is an ideology that keeps morphing. Scofield injected Zionism into it a hundred years ago and it took over many American churches.
I worry about Christian traitors to White nationalism. Christianity hasn't stopped dozens of brother wars.
> You need to watch the Stone Choir podcast (https://stone-choir.com/). They go over many of the corruptions, lies, and heresies in the modern Christian church, like feminism, nationalism, LGBTQ, egalitarianism, jews, WW2, slavery, race, etc.
This is the kind of absurd apologetics I'm used to hearing. While I don't disagree that the Bible is corrupted and misused, see my earlier remarks about Scofield, it begs the question about why it is so easy to manipulate Christians. The religion does not seem to confer special protection or enlightenment.
Just because you don't like your own logic arrayed against you, doesn't make it bad, wrong, or "retarded". There's been an extremely malicious and massive propaganda campaign arrayed against White people, and against Christians. At some point you must ask yourself, why the people in power feel so threatened by Christianity, why do they vociferously hate Christians, why did they infiltrate and subvert the Christian church, while also subverting White nations?
> Christianity is an ideology that keeps morphing.
Christianity doesn't change. Truth is immutable. Scripture is very clear on this. Heresies do and have popped up, but most of those have been handled by previous church leadership. We're just in the midst of more heresies, precisely because of the infiltration and corruption of the church, by enemies of the church, who are also enemies of White people.
> I worry about Christian traitors to White nationalism. Christianity hasn't stopped dozens of brother wars.
We've had some poor leaders of the left hand kingdom of God (earthly authorities, government), yes. But, in the nearly 2000 years of Christian Europe, both Christianity and the ethnic homogeneity of Europe was maintained. The Kalergi plan began at almost the same time as the infiltration and subversion of the church, because the same people are pushing both.
> This is the kind of absurd apologetics I'm used to hearing. While I don't disagree that the Bible is corrupted and misused, see my earlier remarks about Scofield, it begs the question about why it is so easy to manipulate Christians.
"Easy"? Are you serious? Do you have any idea how much money, manpower, time, propaganda, and malice has been arrayed against the church (and White people). It took every sector of society, every information exchange medium, to subvert the church (and White nations), and it took decades.
And again, this same logic can be applied to White people. If we can be so easily infiltrated, subverted, corrupted, and turned against each other, are we redeemable and worthy to be saved? By your logic, we aren't, because we're "easily" manipulated. You apply your own rules hypocritically. You hate Christianity, so you unfairly malign it with harsher rules you don't apply evenly to all other things.
> The religion does not seem to confer special protection or enlightenment.
I hope God works in you, and softens your heart, just as he did with me. It took God several decades for His work to come to fruition in me. Hopefully you won't be as stubborn as me.
I'll offer my services again, if you would like to discuss the topic further, about which Biblical passages you think espouse for civic nationalism, or any other subversion. And, again, I suggest listening to Stone Choir. They dismantle all of these topics at length.