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posted 1 month ago by XBX_X on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +16Score on mirror )
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XBX_X on scored.co
1 month ago 16 points (+0 / -0 / +16Score on mirror ) 3 children
Nevermind the fact that EVs are so cheap in China because they're stamped as thin as soda cans and have zero safety features.

There's no shortage of videos where Chinese people complain about their cars falling apart. But sure, mUh iNoVaTiOn, cOmrADe! 🙄
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Brannvesen on scored.co
1 month ago 13 points (+0 / -0 / +13Score on mirror ) 1 child
Electricity and batteries are dangerous things, it's ironic how the west have spent decades writing up regulations on how electrical systems must be designed, what safety features must exist and who is licensed to install them.

Then we're going into modern day clown world, and suddenly a shithole like China who copies the technology can spit out electric appliances without obeying any safety regulations at all, assembled by incompetent bugmen using chinesium as isolation material. No wonder there's so many electrical fires nowadays.
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 month ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
> electricity regulations

This never happened in the US.

We had the Underwriters who would certify that electronic devices were made according to best practices, that's pretty much it.
PolandCanIntoSpace on scored.co
1 month ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 2 children
The chinese cars i've seen in Europe lately are actually really impressive. I've been running into Jaecoo J7's lately and, even knowing about them, I recently saw a car pass me (I saw the side of it) and I pulled behind him - it wasn't until I was quite close that I realized it wasn't a LR Velar.

They're actually REALLY nice for the money. I was buying a rangerover recently and the salesman actually told me that the chinese brands are taking a big chunk of their sales. I thought it was BS until I realized that you basically get a Velar clone with every option for 75% of the cost of a base Evoque with the smallest engine. The only issue is they have only like 150hp - which isn't a problem for many.
gardinstong on scored.co
1 month ago 8 points (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror ) 2 children
Tofu dreg trash. The only reason they don't explode or catch fire immediately is because EU still has a somewhat functional set of consumer protection laws that seize and crush the worst shitboxes before they enter the markets.

Don't buy the knockoffs, the original cost more because it was researched and produced domestically by competent workers who got paid for their work. Support your local businesses.
XBX_X on scored.co
1 month ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Correct. Geely likes to brag that they can bring new models to market in one year or less. That typically takes three to four years in the West, but that's because there's proper engineering being done to ensure that vehicles safety and durability. Meanwhile, the chinks Copy+Paste the engineering from one vehicle and think it'll apply to any vehicle. Losers risk their family's life just to save a few pennies in a tofu shit can.
removed 1 month ago -2 points (+0 / -0 / -2Score on mirror ) 1 child
XBX_X on scored.co
1 month ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
STFU! Work harder or find a better career, you c/MGTOW cocksucker. Fuck outt'a here with your loser talk!
removed 1 month ago -2 points (+0 / -0 / -2Score on mirror ) 1 child
XBX_X on scored.co
1 month ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Pull your head out of your ass. They look "nice" because they steal Western designs, but maybe you missed the part where they're stamped incredibly thin, not always with galvanized steel, with flimsy "safety" beams. They're death traps. China has ZERO safety standards for their cars. And why should they? All their car companies are owned by the CCP and operated by their cronies. The law doesn't apply to them, so a million people dying from their flimsy cars is no concern to the CCP or their EU subordinates that have been paid off.
Webspawner3 on scored.co
1 month ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 2 children
They are also so cheap because the CCP is massively subsidizing EVs to undercut the market.
January22nd2022 on scored.co
1 month ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
> the CCP is massively subsidizing EVs to undercut the market.

And JOG doesn't?? How you think Elon and Silicon Valley got rich??!
XBX_X on scored.co
1 month ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Correct. They tried the same thing in the 80's with VCRs. Flood the market with cheap options, even selling them at a loss, to destroy the market competitors. Then they swoop in at the end and claim a monopoly. There's no undoing that without gov't intervention. We can't allow ANY Chinese cars into America, even if they try to build them here or in Mexico. It absolutely CAN NOT be allowed in any shape or form.
Brannvesen on scored.co
1 month ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
Now that right there is a prime example of a CCP shill. CCP subsidize Chinese made cars, they use slave labor and have zero regulations on safety or quality. No western car maker can compete with that, so by allowing China to compete on "equal conditions" basically means that China will take over the market, because their cars are cheaper, then they raise the prices when western manufacturers go bankrupt.

Another major problem with China is their theft of intellectual property. Western companies invest a lot into research to make their cars better and safer. Just look at Volvo cars who didn't patent the three point seat belt for the sake of usury which would have risked many lives.

They did a good thing. Or Henry Ford who took good care of his workers back in the early days. Look at what happened to these companies. China stole their intellectual property and out competed them. Volvo cars is now owned by China, modern day Fords are shit with tons of (((planned obsolesce)))

This kiked system is designed to benefit demonic behavior while punishing genuinely good businesses who care about making good high quality products to build trust for their brand. Nowadays when a jew owns 100 different brands they can throw 10 of them down the shitter and buy 10 new that spent years building up trust. Back in the days brands were independent and earned their trust.
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 month ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
> they use slave labor

I'm not opposed to this.

I'd prefer the slaves were kept in their own country, however.
ScallionPancake on scored.co
1 month ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 2 children
EVs are a failed technology. They will never be as good as ICE barring some unlikely breakthrough in battery technology.
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 month ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Even if you had 100% efficient batteries, they could never be as efficient at ICE in terms of weight, safety, and power.

Remember, much of the energy in gasoline comes from the air!

But besides this fact, the total energy spent to produce a mile of travel for an EV is always going to be way higher than the total energy spent for a mile of travel in an ICE.

When people compare EVs to gas cars, they always compare apples to oranges. They forget what it takes to generate and transmit electrical power in the first place. Combined with the lie that we can harvest energy with wind or solar (we can't -- they take more energy to produce than they can produce in their lifetime).

I always draw this picture to help people understand.

For ICE:

Oil in the ground -> pumps -> oil in a pipeline -> refinery -> heat + catalysts (heat comes from waste byproducts) -> gasoline -> pipeline -> tanker truck (uses some diesel, a waste byproduct) -> gas station -> car -> combustion -> mechanical energy -> transmission -> wheels -> motion

For EVs:

Oil / NG in the ground -> pumps -> oil / NG in a pipeline -> power plant. Now, the energy powering the power plant could also come from nuclear or coal, but up to now everything is basically the same.

combustion -> mechanical energy -> electrical energy -> transmission via power lines (lots of loss here) -> car battery. At this point, you think that energy stored in the battery is the same as gasoline in a tank, but it is not even close.

car battery -> electric motor -> mechanical energy -> wheels -> motion

(Note that EVs don't need a transmission.)

The big differences between EVs and ICE:

* Converting fuel to heat to mechanical energy to electrical energy and then back to mechanical energy is lossy compared to just converting fuel to heat to mechanical energy.
* Transmitting power via power lines is way less efficient than transporting fuel / oil via pipelines and tanker ships.
* The weight of the batteries vs. weight of gasoline. Batteries weigh a lot more than gas does, and it can't store a comparable amount of useful energy.
* The time it takes to recharge vs. fill up a tank of gas. I would not want to be anywhere near a recharging station that could recharge an EV in the same amount of time it takes to refuel a car.

EVs offer NO advantage over ICE. In fact, it's very much worse for the environment!

RE Refining: People think this is complicated but it is not. Once you have the equipment in place, the inputs are maintenance and occasionally swapping out the catalyst. The waste byproducts of the refining process are either cracked to make more gasoline or burned to create heat that powers the process. They literally just boil crude oil and cool it down again to refine it.
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MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 month ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
Unpopular opinion: The reason why there is little or no innovation in the US is because of government bureaucracy and regulations. It's by ((design)).
systemthrowaway on scored.co
1 month ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Reminder that reddit is a literal MOSSAD operation
HEXEN on scored.co
1 month ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Electric vehicles are cool in concept, but are retarded in reality.
XBX_X on scored.co
1 month ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
I've only driven two EVs: a high-end Porsche Taycan and a base Tesla Model 3. The Porsche had better road feel (obviously), but the experience in both was otherwise numb and uninspired. They both do insane 0-60 launches, but that's an EVs only tick; and it feels nauseating rather than exciting like in a real car.
SnakePlisken1776 on scored.co
1 month ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
They could just let us get the good Japanese cars that the rest of the world has. Toyota has a sub $20k truck it’s awesome and we can’t import it for 23 years by the current rules.
XBX_X on scored.co
1 month ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
You can if imported and registered in Mexico, then drive it over the border. USMCA allows for reciprocity of registered vehicles.
SnakePlisken1776 on scored.co
1 month ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
This is good to know.
parodious on scored.co
1 month ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Gotta dRiVe ThE eCoNoMy so big Jew makes more on top of his existing billions.
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