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Woe from Stone Choir recommended this episode years back on the history of magick going back to those Graeco-Egyptian papyri that's basically what led to jewish kabbalah.

Finally found an episode after they took it down after Woe recommended it because they didn't want to be associated with him. Ep 16-19 were the relevant ones (see description of the one below)

https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/not-conformed-795062/episodes/episode-19-witchful-thinking-54408100

That led to a skinner video (they link some of his relevant clips in the podcast) where that user warns not to mess with these things in the comments.

Stormy Waters (rich young hedge fund guy) who's sometimes on Pete Q's show has messed with sigils and has promoted them, and has gotten into a lot of mystical stuff in his "Reality is not what you think" series, and he's claiming to be a Christian now.

Most of the information from that series on Pete's show is fairly legit, it's the proper metaphysical worldview (that mind precedes matter, our consciousness/souls aren't being produced by our brains), but the way this is all being presented over time has caused concern.

He at least warned how serious the dangers of astral projection were, as he talks about a demon that messed with him for months (I think it would pretend to be his dead brother or something and show up every time he looked in a mirror).

He said no one to do that as you can't control what you come across. And I agree as I used to experience dissociative states and one day came across something very evil and it started messing with me (giving me visions that I was in hell), didn't stop until I started getting into the Bible again.

I guess he's suggesting sigils aren't as dangerous as messing with binding spirits but I warned others in a group not to mess with any of it as this isn't a game and it's all real, and going to start being revealed to the public in the future I believe, doing so in a way trying to lead people away from Christ, and into this "exoteric/esoteric" false idea, basically the Mark Passio stuff claiming there's a secret hidden magick religion the elites tried to hide from you anon, just make the sigil anon.

I worry for the new age stuff rising up because the temptation is strong as crap once you realize it's real and effective and you have people trying to say it's no big deal.

There is no light side of it, it's all dark and dangerous aside from bowing the knee to Christ, through the Holy Spirit.

I mean messing with demons is never a smart idea, it would be like an ant attempting to reason with a cruel child attempting to burn his nest with a magnifying glass.

Magic ain't real. If you make some deal with some demon you don't get powers. The best you can hope for is that some other idiot who has made the same pact gives you a job. Essentially, 2 idiots have to make the same deal to make it seem real. It's a secret club, that's essentially it. You're never going to be casting fire balls and love spells.

I watched somewhere that witches that try to mess with Christians through astral projection and pacts with entities that those reciting the lords prayer were shielded.

I think the video I watched the witch had converted to Christianity after witnessing that over and over.

RE magic: There's real "magic" and there's false magic, just like there's a real God and false gods.

The issue is people understand that God wants your heart and soul in order to unlock his blessings, and God is going to take the "long route" to eliminate the underlying cause of your problems, while other gods just want your money and allegiance. People would rather pay for quick fixes rather than change.

All of the stuff that people do to substitute for God -- it's all magic. Psychology for instance.

In case you are wondering -- the "false" gods do exist, and they do have power. Moses was fighting them when he fought Pharaoh, Jesus had a "debate" with one of them while fasting in the wilderness, and Paul calls one of them the god of this world. The OT doesn't deny the existence of the other gods, but it does explain that those other gods are not to be worshiped. Those people among Israel who do worship them are to be put to death.

These gods still exist and they still have power today, but they are trying the "oh we don't exist we're just imaginary" route. Don't be fooled. You need to power of Christ to protect yourself from them and to overcome their wiles.

BTW -- the Greek word for gods is "demon". Now you know.

PS: "sorcery" is "pharmakeios" in Greek. Guess what other industry is "pharmakeios" in modern times?