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RE magic: There's real "magic" and there's false magic, just like there's a real God and false gods.
The issue is people understand that God wants your heart and soul in order to unlock his blessings, and God is going to take the "long route" to eliminate the underlying cause of your problems, while other gods just want your money and allegiance. People would rather pay for quick fixes rather than change.
All of the stuff that people do to substitute for God -- it's all magic. Psychology for instance.
In case you are wondering -- the "false" gods do exist, and they do have power. Moses was fighting them when he fought Pharaoh, Jesus had a "debate" with one of them while fasting in the wilderness, and Paul calls one of them the god of this world. The OT doesn't deny the existence of the other gods, but it does explain that those other gods are not to be worshiped. Those people among Israel who do worship them are to be put to death.
These gods still exist and they still have power today, but they are trying the "oh we don't exist we're just imaginary" route. Don't be fooled. You need to power of Christ to protect yourself from them and to overcome their wiles.
BTW -- the Greek word for gods is "demon". Now you know.
PS: "sorcery" is "pharmakeios" in Greek. Guess what other industry is "pharmakeios" in modern times?
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Wrong. The Greek word for God is "Theos". The Greek word the Christians used for demon is "daimon". "Daimon" and "Theos" are not interchangeable and do not come close to meaning the same thing.
The concept of "god" in the old testament, often expressed as "el" or "elohim", can mean a variety of things, only some of the things comparable to the Greek gods. It can also mean mortal people in positions of authority, someone like a judge or a king. It also means spirits. It means powers. It's really quite a chore to try and figure out what the OT Hebrew words actually mean in various contexts. I recall reading a verse, I think it was in Exodus, where "elohim" is fighting "elohim" and then the English translation is something like "God fights the priests of Pharaoh" or something like that. I'll have to look it up again but the impression I got was "el" and "elohim" certainly DON'T mean God or god. It's an entirely different concept, which includes God and the other gods and a whole lot of other things.
The closest Greek concept to the OT concept of the other gods is "demon." Heck, even "angel" is pretty close for the guys that are friendly towards the "real" God.
Who is Jesus arguing with when he is fasting in the wilderness? Who did he cast out of the sick people? Where did those things come from and what were they called in the OT? Did you ever wonder why all of a sudden in the first century casting out demons is like the thing everyone does from time to time, when there's barely a mention of it before or after?
The Christian God is not the Greek god(s). You switch between Hebrew and Greek without regard for either. Not much of an argument.
The word used by Christians is "Theos". Not sure why this is difficult to understand.
Jesus casts out demons. The events happen in the NT, so I don't know what you're on about, except that it's a stupid and novel idea that you made up without any real knowledge of the source material, which is why I've never heard of it before.
No, the word used to describe Jesus in the New Testament by Paul is usually "Lord".
> not sure why this is difficult to understand
Because you've never studied it.
> it's a stupid and novel idea
I know, reading the Bible and trying to understand what the words actually mean is a stupid and novel idea. At least it has been ever since the protestants showed up and started worshiping the text as God.
The earliest preachers were calling the Greek gods angels (at least the "good" ones.) They were emphasizing that Jesus was a sort of super-god and that he had a Father which was super-duper God.
It's really interesting to dig into what they actually wrote and what it actually meant in the cultural context of their time. Pauls' witness to the Athenians is super interesting once you realize what the altar to the "unknown God" really was.
Did you know that Socrates and other ancient philosophers didn't worship the Greek pantheon? They though that stuff was fairy tales you tell simple-minded folk to keep them from murdering each other.
The issue is people understand that God wants your heart and soul in order to unlock his blessings, and God is going to take the "long route" to eliminate the underlying cause of your problems, while other gods just want your money and allegiance. People would rather pay for quick fixes rather than change.
All of the stuff that people do to substitute for God -- it's all magic. Psychology for instance.
In case you are wondering -- the "false" gods do exist, and they do have power. Moses was fighting them when he fought Pharaoh, Jesus had a "debate" with one of them while fasting in the wilderness, and Paul calls one of them the god of this world. The OT doesn't deny the existence of the other gods, but it does explain that those other gods are not to be worshiped. Those people among Israel who do worship them are to be put to death.
These gods still exist and they still have power today, but they are trying the "oh we don't exist we're just imaginary" route. Don't be fooled. You need to power of Christ to protect yourself from them and to overcome their wiles.
BTW -- the Greek word for gods is "demon". Now you know.
PS: "sorcery" is "pharmakeios" in Greek. Guess what other industry is "pharmakeios" in modern times?
The closest Greek concept to the OT concept of the other gods is "demon." Heck, even "angel" is pretty close for the guys that are friendly towards the "real" God.
Who is Jesus arguing with when he is fasting in the wilderness? Who did he cast out of the sick people? Where did those things come from and what were they called in the OT? Did you ever wonder why all of a sudden in the first century casting out demons is like the thing everyone does from time to time, when there's barely a mention of it before or after?
The word used by Christians is "Theos". Not sure why this is difficult to understand.
Jesus casts out demons. The events happen in the NT, so I don't know what you're on about, except that it's a stupid and novel idea that you made up without any real knowledge of the source material, which is why I've never heard of it before.
> not sure why this is difficult to understand
Because you've never studied it.
> it's a stupid and novel idea
I know, reading the Bible and trying to understand what the words actually mean is a stupid and novel idea. At least it has been ever since the protestants showed up and started worshiping the text as God.
> i've never heard of it before
Because you've never studied it.
This is stupid.
So cultists in the 300s made Greek and Roman Gods to be evil monsters. Got it.
It's really interesting to dig into what they actually wrote and what it actually meant in the cultural context of their time. Pauls' witness to the Athenians is super interesting once you realize what the altar to the "unknown God" really was.
Did you know that Socrates and other ancient philosophers didn't worship the Greek pantheon? They though that stuff was fairy tales you tell simple-minded folk to keep them from murdering each other.