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So I got downvoted into oblivion on a post about socialism because I think that socialism is doomed to fail no matter what form, even national socialism.

Explain why national socialism is a better economic system than libertarian capitalism, assuming a white, Christian* ethnostate.

*Preferably Catholic and Orthodox, not butt-fucking Protestants
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WitchHunterSiegfried on scored.co
1 year ago 9 points (+0 / -0 / +9Score on mirror ) 2 children
One issue with libertarianism is the fact that even in a White ethno-state you'll have bad actors, and they should be held accountable as it were.
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WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
The biggest problem, maybe *especially* in a White ethnostate, is outside interference.

How do you organize to stop banditry and piracy? Maybe you can get together with your neighbours and convince them to form a militia, after you've been pillaged and the raiders move on to the next town, who you don't necessarily even talk to.

How do you stop foreign subversion? If your neighbour decides they want to take money from a hostile government to provide intelligence on your resources and defenses, that's just their choice, right?

How to you stop foreign colonies, backed by organizational power and resources, from taking all the best land?

You don't. You just get conquered one piece at a time.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 2 children
The fact that what you describe has literally never existed in history is telling. Hierarchy is non negotiable. Even libertarianism ends up being hierarchical, it's just corporations instead of clergy or government.
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
In a White-only, libertarian society, there wouldn’t be legal entities known as (((corporations))). I think that would mitigate a LOT of the moral hazard of a free market. The most important thing for this society to work is to have a morally virtuous people that believe in God Almighty.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
The premise of rampant individualism being spread inside of *whites only Christian societies* is exactly what started us down this rabbithole of ever increasing fuckery.

What race was John D Rockefeller? He definitely wasn't jewish. It's wrong to believe corporations magically will not appear in a world with no restrictions on "individual liberty and the free market" based off of the virtue of white people alone, which is very often tested. If every single one of us were morally scrupulous, there would be 0 jews in the west today. But not all of us are good. And the old adage says that shit rises to the top, and it's true.
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Rockefeller was 100% jew funded, bud. Try again.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>jew funded

>funded by jews

>not jewish by genetics

>bad, morally unscrupulous white person that took jewish money

He also didn't need jews to be filthy rich because he struck oil in the 1800s. Jews just wanted to stake their claim in his revenue.
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Pointing to 1 jewphile oligarch is the exception that proves the rule.

White Christians do just fine with self-determination and free markets. It’s only when usurped by outside interests that it’s a problem. And that’s a problem even Benjamin Franklin warned extensively against.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I don't think it even makes sense, hypothetically.

The whole reason humans are so successful is because we are able to pool resources and act collectively to acheive a greater good. By ourselves, we're pretty unimpressive; we're not particularily strong or fast, no built in weapons or defenses, just unusually high stamina and that has to be spent constantly toiling to scrounge food, regulate temperature, and building shelter.

So what's the idea of Libertarianism? That everybody acts just for themselves? Aside from being extremely inefficient, it means everyone has to be able to do everything, which means it's constrained to stone age technology, realistically. Oh, and everyone also has to go and do everything they do while alert for other people robbing or raping them.

Much like the idea of a welfare state, the idea Libertarianism can only really exist in a society that has largely solved problems like crime and scarcity so that these solutions can be taken for granted.
Brannvesen on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
First you must understand that the jew have subverted both definitions of "liberalism" and "socialism". Nothing in the former eastern block would be real socialism. I know it's a meme, but this is a fact, those weren't real implementations of socialism. It was (((bolshevik))) communism plain and simple, a 100% jewish ideology just like capitalism.

Real socialism defines a form of welfare system only. The nationalist ideology makes it a White ethnostate. Socialism on it's own isn't a standalone ideology, it's an addition to various forms of capitalist systems to regulate and prevent jewish fuckery. It originates in Germany at a time when (((capitalism))) poses a threat from the west and (((comunism))) threatens from the east. The Germans didn't want to be part of either jew controlled system, so they decided to build their own Reich with regulations in place to keep the jew away from power.

Libertarianism on the other hand is it's own ideology, which is all about the individual. It goes something like "me first, fuck everyone else". Which is very jewish by definition. How could such society ever thrive, when every individual always competes with one another. Just like (((capitalism))) this will keep people divided while large jew owned corporations take over.

To put it simple, the main difference is collectivism vs individualism. White people working together against jewish interests can achieve wonders, while White people busy competing with each others won't have time to notice the jew.

Someone made a great comparison using transportation. Let's say you have a robot taxi, you summon it with an app on your phone, then it shows up and there's poop on the floor from the former passenger, you can't do shit about it, other than pull a deep sigh and be depressed over the collapse of society.

But if you instead took the bus, there's maybe 30-40 other people onboard, a collective of White people, soon as that one problematic individual pull down his pants to take a shit on the floor, the bus will stop and several people will step in to throw that fucker out. This will boost everyone's sense of community, you're surrounded by complete strangers, but you all worked together to make society a better place. It ain't much but it's honest work, and morale goes up.

That's the difference between socialism and libertarianism.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
>It goes something like "me first, fuck everyone else".

I think the steel-man of Libertariabism would be "I'm so responsible that I don't need to be governed".

For example, my country requires automatic traction control and ABS brakes in new cars. *I* don't need this, because I know how to drive, but others need to be governed because they're idiots. Same with left turn signals, speed limits, safety inspections, even driver's licenses. If none of that existed, I would drive pretty much the same as I do now because it's just the correct way to drive, so I don't like having these laws.

The problem is, if I'm at least an average driver, most people are worse than me. If any retard can get behind a wheel and do whatever he wants, as fast as he wants, you get India, which I also don't want.

On top of that, I didn't build my car. If I did, I didn't build the parts. If I did, I didn't smelt the metal and process the plastic. If I did, I didn't obtain the raw ore/oil etc. Someone else has to do at least some of this and I can't realisitically check every stage for quality. If my wheel falls off because of poor metalurgy or corners cut during assembly, I'm fucked. Someone needs to hold the dummies to account for their actions, or they'll get away with whatever they can.

Ideally, I think Libertarianism is an individual ideology necessary for small government, but not actually a system of government at all. You can never have a Libertarian country; at best it would be some other system that would barely require paid government positions because most people take on the responsibilities that otherwise fall to governments.
TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
Because libertarianism denies biology and the natural order. It’s not an ideology. It’s an ideological *aspiration*, just as communism is an aspiration. And just as “living a perfect Christian life” is an aspiration. Libertarianism cannot be achieved in the real world with sinful humans.
Fourteen88 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
The only aspirations libertarianism has is limited government and greed.

Read a book, kike.
TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
>[refuses to respond to what was written]

Thanks for proving everything I said is objectively correct. Drown yourself, jewish sockpuppet.
Fourteen88 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
I'm responding to
> It’s an ideological aspiration

I hear schizophrenia is common in Jewish populations.

TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
>I’m responding to

And you’re being mocked for it, yes. Libertarianism and communism are platonic ideals. They cannot exist in reality.
Fourteen88 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Ok, jewjewbe
BlackPillBot on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
I can only tell you, WITHOUT A DOUBT, that a homogeneous white Christian ethno state will function, and have more lasting power than what we have now. Is that really saying much, I don’t know, but it’s true.
Fourteen88 on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Any system of government, including monarchy, will work in a white ethnostate.

We must secure a future for white people and white children.
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Fourteen88 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Look up quotes from Hitler on communism versus socialism.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
The issue is that Libertarianism is hands off, and Liberty is only sustainable if its seen as a duty to be defended to the death rather than some magical right from a changing State.
the-new-style on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Liberty means homos, drugs, porn, drag shows, selling children ...
LordGrimTheInvincibl on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Literally all words being used in this post and thread have no meaning.

Political terms are made up nonsense. It is all bread and circuses.
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