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Another extreme diet with potentially deadly health consequences over many years and with inherent deficits rears its head. I wonder (((who))) could be behind it?

This diet blew up out of nowhere within the past few years, and naturally I'm extremely suspicious of its *intents* and who is funding this. It's practically everywhere now, and even doctors are coming out of the cracks to advertise the benefits of keto and carnivore. The same institutions who were telling us to eat nothing but grain and stuff our face with seed oils 10 years ago. What's going on here?

Yes, red meat and saturated fats are good for you. I wholeheartedly support this view. Raw milk is good for you. Raw meat is good for you if you know what you're doing.

With that out of the way though, it shouldn't be the only thing you eat. None of your ancestors ate a carnivorous diet. The tribal germanic ancestors that so many people larp as eating nothing but animal blood and raw milk or whatever ate a fuck ton of oats. Not even if they had no edible plants on hand were any of your ancestors carnivorous.

Carbs are important for hormone function. A high protein, low carb diet has been proven to fuck hormone levels the same way that a low cholesterol, low fat diet will. It's also very difficult to *maintain or gain weight* on a carnivore (or keto, for that matter) diet, because carbs are the main resource used to maintain and gain weight.

Wait a minute, I made a point earlier, didn't I? That seemed contradictory. "Not even if they had no edible plants available were they carnivorous". Seems odd, doesn't it?

Yeah, it does. Do you know what a wooly mammoth on the eurasian steppe would have had? A stomach. Full of partially digested otherwise indigestible plants. A lot of them. That starving prehistoric people would have eaten. The inuit still do this with animals that eat plants. It's a big source of nutrients. And carbs, so energy. If it were void of nutrients, they wouldn't eat it. In fact, most tribes that eat a "carnivorous" diet do this.

Proof? They've found the buildup of already digested plant slime on the insides of prehistoric teeth.

What do obligate carnivores like felines (the most carnivorous species of animals on land) do with the stomachs of animals large enough to bother with? They rip it out and throw it away. Except lions, who have to make due because of communal feeding. And small felines that hunt things to small to bother with this.

Cats are one of the only animals in nature that actually eat a meat exclusive diet. Dogs don't. Bears don't. Most "carnivorous" animals do not. Again these animals eat the slop inside of their preys stomachs. Cats dont, if they can help it. So how is it that a human is supposed to *exclusively* eat meat then? Are we as carnivorous as a tiger?

Humans would have never started farming and eating something that they couldn't eat in the first place. What happens if you feed a cat or dog a vegetarian or vegan diet? It dies. Quickly. What happens if you feed a cow meat? It dies less quickly than a cat being fed salad for sure, but eventually its metabolism will start destroying itself and it dies too. A person can live off of a vegan or carnivorous diet, but not optimally on either. Therefore humans are omnivorous. If we were obligate carnivores, all of us would have been exterminated by the agricultural revolution and we wouldn't be here discussing it.

And another thing: we can taste sweetness. If we were meant to eat exclusively meat, we would not be able to taste sugar at all. Obligate carnivores can't taste sweetness. The reason that sugar tastes good, blasts our dopamine receptors, and why we want more of it is because to a prehistoric person it was actually a very good thing as a source of quick energy and lots of calories which could be the difference between life and death (though it wouldn't be table sugar. It'd be honey or fruit or something of the like). Your brain is still on primeval mode 24/7 subconsciously, which is why it tells you that you must eat more sugar and doesn't tell you to avoid it like the plague.

I actually tried this jewish diet a few years ago and used to tout its benefits. I did it wholesomely and ate as optimally as I could. Severe weight loss, testosterone dropped from 1200 ng to 1000 ng (quite notable, i did this before and after because i read before starting that this could happen), I got weaker physically at the gym and at work. Not a fun time.

So why do so many people have benefits from this? Answer: because they ate goyslop before and stopped eating processed food in the first place. A spot of spinach wouldn't cause them to implode. And/or they were fat and stopped being fat. Or they were vegan and switched to a marginally better fad extreme diet.

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33 comments:
Vulkanian on scored.co
1 year ago 8 points (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror ) 2 children
Idk what kind of schizopost this is. Our primitive ancestors lived almost exclusively off meat, there's a reason why protein is the single most important nutrient for our body.
deleteme1234 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Your teeth are obviously shaped for more than chewing meat.
Vulkanian on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Brilliant observation, retard.
deleteme1234 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Kinda contradicts your claim:

> primitive ancestors lived almost exclusively off meat

Vulkanian on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Doesn’t contradict it all, moron. Do you not see the word ‘almost’ in there?
deleteme1234 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
'almost' is not good enough.

Cats and dogs almost exclusively live off meat, as per the shape of their teeth.

Humans do not.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 3 children
Key word is "primitive"; they also died around 30.
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
You think they died at 30 from eating their species-appropriate diet?
MysteriousFedKnight on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
Now that's some jewy bs
MrSteak on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Not from diet they didn’t.
ScallionPancake on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 2 children
Extreme “diets” don’t work. The second you stop the extreme diet you go back to whatever weight you were before.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
isnt it because your supposed to keep on the diet?

ScallionPancake on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
If you maintain an “extreme” diet, you die.

If you stop the extreme diet, you go back to being fat.

It’s called yoyo dieting and everyone who follows a fad diet does it.
MysteriousFedKnight on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Total pilpul.

First there is nothing extreme about it unless one is filtering by ideology. Nothing extreme about wolves only eating meat or horses only grass.

Second it is not meant to be a 'diet'.
ShekelJa on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
Do jews benefit from the goyim eating red meat? Seems like they are going out of their way to kill off as much livestock as they can to jack prices up.

Besides, taking a deep dive with reputable people, they all say the same thing, that it isnt magical, and that its main function is to distance you from all the garbage you regularly eat.

They follow this up by encouraging people to gradually reintroduce other foods they regularly have, one by one, to verify the effects they have and to eliminate those that work against you.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
They benefit from printed meat, yeah. What happens when everyone jumps on this trend but aren't rich enough to eat steak three times a day? They're going to need cheaper alternatives.
muhfugginbixnood on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror )
The reason why your T-levels dropped is because you ate the meat COOKED. Yes I agree that there is nothing wrong with carbohydrates ,but only in their RAW FORM. Cooked carbs are not natural in the human diet which also brings up the reason why humans should absolutely not eat grains and potatoes because they require to be cooked. All the table sugar and molasses that you see in the store are cooke/pasteurized sugars. Cooked sugars cause build up advanced glycation end products in the body which cause deterioration and disease. So what happens when you remove cooked sugars from your diet? The only available carb sources you have are raw honey, unpasteurized milk, and fruit. That's it (I am not including vegetables because they are undigestable). Believe it or not when removing grains and cooked starches from your diet you start to realize that the amount of carbohydrates you eat in your diet significantly drops. That is how we are supposed to eat. You think in nature people would find honey and fruit easily? It is really difficult to actually find edible wild fruit and when you did the fruits were tiny and extremely sour as they had very little sugar in them and more Vitamin C. Honey was rare as well and was guarded by bees. You only had acess to milk if you were herding animals yourself. So where are we supposed to get majority of our calories from? From raw animal FAT and Protein. Carbs are fine as long as they are in their raw form. If a raw carbohydrate is undigestable you are not supposed to eat it even in its cooked or raw form.
ImBillCurtis on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
No.
deleted 1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Be human, consoom everything.
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
I should add... the current "fad" diet I recommend that is easy and cheap is pretty simple. Just eat a normal amount of food during the day, and don't eat for a 12-hour (or more) period. It's called "intermittent fasting". Combine it with the induction phase of the Atkins diet to get your insulin under control -- easy peasy. Just skip breakfast or dinner, eat one or two meals, don't snack in between, and live your life normally.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Huh, I've always just done this, never been a breakfast person.
MysteriousFedKnight on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Nigga please, have been on raw meat 2 years and more and never felt better.

Literally all my health problems evaporated and even as i drank heavily for a period i had a third of the drawbacks of before.

All animals are adapted to one food group mostly that can suffice for everything as they evolve inner mechanisms to transform said food, like horses with grass. Those 'mixing' philosophies come from misunderstanding human is just a carnivore animal.

There is no magical ingredient outside meat we need to survive at our best.

It's also not a 'diet', a diet is something you do for a specific effect.
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
I can speak to some of the points you brought up out of practical experience.

> what happens if you feed a cow meat

Cows need a certain amount of protein in their diet. Too much, and they get scours (diarrhea). Too little, and they can starve to death with a full stomach. You can tell a cow is short on protein because their manure stands up rather than makes a nice symmetric patty with a dimple inside.

They get their proteins from growing grass. Old grass doesn't have much, if any. That's why hay is harvested when it is still green and not quite mature. In spring time, cows struggle because there is too much protein in the grass. In winter, it's the opposite problem. Most of the protein supplements we feed cattle are soy but down here in the south cottonseed meal is a good source of cheap protein for cattle.)

Regarding meat -- cows can absolutely eat meat. They do eat animal proteins from time to time. It's disgusting. I won't talk about it.

> dogs (etc) eat the content of a ruminant's stomach

I can attest to this. Dogs even eat cow and sheep manure. Why? I don't know. I think the pre-digested plant material has a flavor or something. Dogs are filthy disgusting creatures when you leave them to their own devices. They like some kinds of rotten meat over fresh meat, for instance.

How I view things: The three basic foods are protein, fats, and carbohydrates. We need all 3, but for different reasons.

* Proteins are necessary to build up tissue and for general health. There are certain amino acids we must eat because we cannot produce them. The vast majority of the human population eats far too little protein, and many of them are eating the wrong kinds of protein. Red meat is essential. In short -- more protein = bigger body.
* Fats are necessary because they carry certain nutrients that only fats can carry. Your body doesn't do much with the fats otherwise. It ends up in your toilet more or less. The fat inside of your body is all generated by your body. When you have a carb deficit, your body will switch to burning fat for energy more or less, with caveats.
* Carbs are necessary for energy and some other things. Starve yourself of carbs, you will die. Keep in mind that meat carries a fair amount of carbs in it, especially uncooked meat. Low-carb diets mess up a lot of things and there is a serious caution that if you do low-carb for a long period of time you WILL end up burning your own muscle.
 
My diet: I eat when I am hungry. I do not eat until I am full. I eat a lot of meat, but I eat pretty much everything else I crave. Occasionally I will crave a donut, and I will eat it, and my body will feel good. Most of the time I just want hamburgers.

Also with diet is exercise. I work in the field at least 2 hours a day outdoors. I used to only walk but now I can run for short distances, no problems. (Cowboy boots are not fun to run in, and if I run in my rubber boots they fall apart.) I can carry 50 lb sacks no problem. I think my grip strength has improved. I sometimes pick up or wrestle a 200 lb sheep no problem.

Note that the meats I eat are meats I grew myself. I want to grow my own grains eventually, make my own bread, etc... Making bread is not that hard. However, I am going to explore growing various vegetables next.

Most people have never read Dr. Atkins' book and have no idea what they are talking about regarding a low-carb diet. Dr. Atkins goes over all of the (then-current)_ research and explains very well the ideas behind his diet. It consists of 3 phases: The induction phase, where you severely limit your carb intake to bring your insulin resistance down, a "scale up" period where you find the right balance of carbs for you, and the "maintenance" period where you live your life normally, avoiding high-carb foods but not being religious about it. His message is that it is **INSULIN NOT CARBS** that is giving us heart attacks and making us fat! Most people miss this altogether.

Meaning: you eat a high-carb diet for a prolonged period of time, and your body builds up a resistance to insulin. In this state, when you eat your high-carb foods, your body reacts by injecting increasing levels of insulin into your blood stream trying to normalize your blood sugar. The fat cells are slow to react and so this vicious cycle of ever increasing insulin surges hits. Eventually, the cells react to the insulin and the blood sugar drops --- TOO LOW. Now you are hungry again, and get hunger pains, and you know that the only thing that can help is more sugar, so off you go to start the insulin cycle all over again.

THIS IS WHAT IS KILLING US

Dr. Atkins recommends breaking the cycle with a 2-week induction phase where you severely limit your carb intake to less than 20 g a day. This is a ridiculously low level designed to completely deprive the body of insulin. As your body gets used to low levels of insulin, you'll note that when you eat a sugar snack, your body doesn't react strangely, you don't feel lethargic, and you actually get the energy out of it one would expect.

Once you have broken the cycle, then you have to learn how to live your life conscious of the insulin in your blood and insulin resistance. You avoid high-carb foods. When you do eat foods with a lot of carbs, you don't go back to high-carb foods again for a good long while. You pay attention to how your body is reacting to your current carb intake and what that means in terms of insulin.

Dr. Atkins also points out that your body can generate carbs from protein, so during the induction phase, limit your protein intake to reasonable levels. Eat to satiate hunger, not to fill yourself.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>Regarding meat -- cows can absolutely eat meat. They do eat animal proteins from time to time. It's disgusting.

It's behavior usually seen when, as you mentioned, the grass is old and nutrient void. Or there is a lack of something in the grass. And even then only in small amounts. Comparable to how a cat will eat grass stalks even though it's an obligate carnivore. Though not for the same reason. That being said a cow can't subsist on meat alone. If you got rid of all vegetation and left a cow with a mountain of chicken, it'll grow skinny and starve to death in any case.

>dogs even eat cow and sheep mamure. Why? I don't know.

They'll do it when they're hungry because they *can*. Not an ideal source of food, but it is one. Their shorter digestive tracks mean that they can do it without getting sick. They also do it out of boredom. Dogs eat random objects when they're bored. They eat chime (I learned recently that that's the word for the partially digested plant matter) because it has nutrients. And calories. Dogs and wolves eat plants for supplemental nutrition. They're not fully carnivorous. In fact most carnivores eat plants for supplemental nutrition (like how most herbivores eat insects and such for the same reason). Even crocodiles eat fruit, and of course chime, since they eat everything almost whole. Cats are the lonesome outliers here. They truly get no value from anything but meat, except some slight aid in digestion from eating small amounts of grass, which won't exactly kill them if they don't have it.

>They like some kinds of rotten meat over fresh meat, for instance.

They're scavengers at heart. A dog left in the wild will primarily eat things that are already dead. The same as wolves. Dogs and wolves are actually quite fragile animals, and can get hurt or killed by larger things very easily. Wolves hunting moose are at an enormous disadvantage. Wolves hunting buck deer are also at a disadvantage. Its a better survival strategy to eat dead ones if available. Cats are a lot more robust, built exclusively for killing and eating fresh meat, and also have an aversion and reaction to rotten meat that is greater than that of human beings. If you think a steak might be spoiled, try to get a cat to eat it. If the cat seems offended by your offer, it's going bad.





MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
> It's behavior usually seen when, as you mentioned, the grass is old and nutrient void

False

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MysteriousFedKnight on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Im getting a channel going later this year probably exactly because of this problem.

Gatis is actually a decent dude YTwise but his past will always get in the way of the message.

Liver King is a shame, ofcourse.

I suggest you check 'excellent health' as he is the zen alternative and he has the best info vids.

> (I'm not eating bull balls)

Missing out bigly!

Also, Primal and carnivore are separated i think in people's head
hh4eva on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
I think people need to see carnivore from a different perspective. I see it more as an elimination diet and it's probably why people have benefited on some level from it. Mainly eliminating seed oils and also pesticides from grains. Just my casual observation, it seems the benefits come more from cutting out detrimental foods rather than eating the meat itself. It's also easier to convince people to eat an elimination diet based on meat and salt rather than vegetables which may be another reason why it's popular.
MrSteak on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
jews have nothing to do with it. Carbs are not necessary for human function, neither is fiber. Carnivore has been around for ages, it only recently gained in popularity due to Joe Rogan and some other influencers.

It has been done and written about for quite some time. Arctic explorer Vilhjálmur Stefánsson wrote about his experience with it in early-1900s. Many other such cases around that time period and earlier.

There are many ailments that people have been able to completely reverse. The benefit of course getting off of goyslop processed food itself is great, but many with autoimmune issues don’t see full results until committing to strict beef, salt and water. Even then people can differ due to not enough fat consumption and/or too much protein.

Not everyone would benefit from that or want/need to do it, but many do. I do not see how jews derive any benefit from people being more aware of what they are consuming and how it was sourced. It also encourages to buy local and leading people to venture into raising animals as well. Sort of lends itself well towards parallel society as we need to do anyway.
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1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
u/MrSteak Thoughts?
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