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I'd like to share this because I think this board will find him interesting if not outright heroic.

He was the son of a ww1 veteran, born in Baden-Württemberg, his father became a Freikorps fighter who was sent to the baltic to fight the advancing red army and was lynched by a soviet mob.

He was a teenager at the time, and, fearing what had happened in Bavaria, and the neighboring province of Germany, and now lacking a father, he took his family by railroad to Kiel, stowed away on a random cargo ship, and left.

Where did this ship end up? The port of Latakia, Syria.

He lived with his family in syria and Iraq off and on for a little over 20 years. He learned arabic, he became integrated with the local culture, and he became a fisherman.

When war broke out once more, he went back to germany and offered his services to the wehrmacht - he was recruited into the Brandenburgers. If you do not know what that is, it was a unit of the wehrmacht made up of German diaspora in foreign countries. Which he was. So he was sent to the north African and middle eastern campaigns.

Side note: he had converted to Islam a few years after he arrived in syria, but came back under the fold of Lutheranism during the second world War. He stayed a Lutheran for the rest of his life. Even after converting back to Christianity though, he still refused to drink or eat pork. Ever.

 He did a lot of shit he never really spoke about in North Africa, the Middle east, and into Afghanistan. I don't know exactly what he did, neither does my family, but he did them. When the division was transferred into a panzergrenadier division and sent to the eastern front in 1944, off he went too, and he fought to the bitter end.

After the war ended in 1945, he ducked out of the danger of occupation era germany and snuck back to Syria to take care of his family.

He returned to fighting once more in 1948 in the Arab liberation army against Israel during the first arab israeli war. Because he was personally a virulent anti semite and did not believe that Israel should be a state. Based. He also was effectively an Arab in every way but blood, so he felt it was duty to fight on their side against the jews.

After this, he went to Morocco. Mostly due to the newly created severe instability in the levant. Morocco was far from it and was comparitively very stable. He was also very stubborn about NOT leaving the middle east and was waiting for another war against israel. He stayed in morocco for about 5 more years. Disappointed about the lack of any happenings yet, he relocated to the United States for economic opportunity, and because it was a better environment to raise a family. He moved to Boston, he expunged his record because he was worried about mossad operatives capturing him (he was mildly paranoid for good reason), got married to an American woman, and had children. He changed his last name, nobody in my family knows what his actual last name was. It's a secret he took to his grave.

We know that his last name isn't even a real german name, but burgers in america didn't give a fuck. It sounds like a germanized version of an Arab name, Sadaf. Which may or may not have been the name he took when he immigrated to the middle east. And which may or may not itself be an arabization of his birth surname. We have no idea. But considering that germans tend to take native names that sound like their own when immigrating (schmidt to smith), this is likely. But the last name he had on death does not exist in any surname lookup websites. It's basically german sounding gibberish. The only person who *ever* had the surname was him. He gave his children their mother's name. This was probably done on purpose to tie him to exactly 0 people whatsoever.

He probably would have joined the egyptian army during the Yom Kippur war if he wasn't already pushing his 60s and didn't have grandchildren by this point (my father was born at the same time this happened). He did support the war and king Faisal's oil embargo though.

His brothers and sisters remained in the levant, however, and married into arab families. Both muslim and christian. One of his nephews was an Iraqi soldier who was killed during the first gulf War. I still have relatives over there, technically speaking.

Native german speaker. Fluent in Arabic, Berber, English, and competent in Pashto.

He was a fisherman for the rest of his life. After all the shit that he did, he died in his late 90s of a heart attack in his boat. These are his words from his last days, when he knew his health was failing and it didn't matter anymore.
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Knight_Of_Saint_John on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 2 children
Wow... What a legend

How many kikes do you think he managed to kill?
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
Enough that he was paranoid about mossad finding his family after the first arab israeli war. So he probably slotted a good amount of them.

Side note: before ww2 he was a supporter of the golden square (basically a group of Iraqi proto baathist fascist military officers) that overthrew the jewish Hashemite dynasty and made Iraq an axis power. He was also a supporter of baath and saddam hussein after the fact.
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PurestEvil on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
> He learned arabic, he became integrated with the local culture, and he became a fisherman.

Wtf, I thought the standard procedure for migrants was to never integrate and never learn the language. Also not eternally on welfare and dealing drugs or stealing? Weird...

> He did a lot of shit he never really spoke about in North Africa, the Middle east, and into Afghanistan.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was more about things he saw, and inhabitants did which put him into moral dilemmas, liking using human shields, or using children as bait, or using children as soldiers.

> so he felt it was duty to fight on their side against the jews.

At least he had the right convictions.

> It's a secret he took to his grave.

Probably better that way to protect his family.

It seemed like he had quite a busy, fulfilled life.
HoodBillyBob on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
I bet he knew Alois Brunner through his post-war time in Syria. Not a lot of Germans were known to have successfully fled there.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
He probably knew of him, but I doubt they would have had much (if any) correspondence because of the fact that mossad was trying to kill Brunner.

Although, he probably had an advantage in fleeing wherever he wanted to and that was the nature of the division of the wehrmacht he was attached to, the Brandenburgers.

They were specifically trained in counterintelligence (originally they were part of the abwehr, the intelligence agency of the wehrmacht. Not the heer), subterfuge, shape-shifting, sabatoge, and deceit. Until it became a regular infantry division in 1944 at least.

With all of that training put to good use he no doubt knew how to conceal his identity *extremely* well, more than most that would have fled there. He destroyed his identity. Every connection he ever had with the wehrmacht. Though He barely had anything in the first place because it was a clandestine division. He wore a shemagh at virtually all times during the 1948 war. He took a name that doesn't exist. He destroyed his personal data. He was a ghost, effectively.
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devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
>pork and alcohol

He was fully indoctrinated against it, and spent 20 some years not being allowed to consume it by his religion, so he was completely turned off by the idea of doing so even when he was allowed to do it again.

>very culturally arab

Somewhat, but for his part he integrated very well when he moved to the United States. He kept a lot of typically arab mannerisms, but culturally he was an American. He was also a protestant Christian, which helps a lot because that IS the culture of America. Well, culturally american at least after multiple years of living there. I dont know what he was like when he first got there because hes dead and hes the only one who would know. He had an arab accent in english. He did not teach his children arabic, or german or berber for that matter.

It hasn't had a large impact on the family. Or any impact. My grandmother was fully americanized. It would be cool if his children and their descendants were taught german and arabic though, I'd find that extremely advantageous, but alas usually languages die after 2nd generation immigrants. No fault on him. It's normal for an immigrant family to fully americanize their children.
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devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 2 children
Regular arab behavior.

He didn't like when people showed the soles of their feet when sitting. I know this is weird, but it's a thing in the middle east. It's considered rude.

Very prudent about using formalities when talking

Lots of hand gesturing.

Hated people that used swear words in public - this is a huge deal in the middle east. In some places it's illegal. My grandmother never swore a single time in public.

He would not offer handshakes to unknown women first because this is considered breaking boundaries in the middle east. Women are supposed to offer a handshake first.

On that note, he refused to associate with women that weren't his wife in general. And he expected likewise from his wife. Sex boundaries are real in the middle east and he brought that over with him.

Just a couple things.
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devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
>would have noticed some differences between Arabs and Germans

He saw differences but (possibly obviously) not really negative ones. He was very pro arab his whole life and effectively put his life on the line for the Arab liberation army.

>I especially wonder what he thought of American Blacks

He barely had experience with them, but didn't really like them. He didn't really know about the fact that niggers commit more crime, but he knew that they lived in the ghetto and were "rude". He also forbade his children from marrying them. I wouldn't say he absolutely hated them, but had a pretty average view of a 1950s man of niggers. But again, he barely had any experience with them. By the time Boston had a noteworthy amount of blacks everywhere, he was fucking loaded with money (he was a successful businessman in the fishing industry after settling in the US). He never spent any money on frivolous luxuries and gave a fraction of his inheritance to each of his (many) children.

>Imagine going from an underdeveloped desert to the richest country in the world but seeing people that are LESS CIVILIZED than a bunch of illiterate fishermen and desert dwellers.

By the 70s and 80s he really didn't like america (well, he never did like america as an entity, but he started to dislike everything about it) because of how its people had changed. That's probably a big part of it. The only reason he never moved back to the middle east is because he wanted to stay with his (many) grandchildren (and later great grandchildren, unfortunately I'm his youngest great Grandson, so I never got to meet him before he passed).






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IGOexiled on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
If you convert religions twice it means you're confused. It's a good story though.

I'm glad your confused uncle was able to move all over the world and hide under an alternate persona that people wouldn't persecute.
devotech2 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
>it means you're confused

Yeah, teenagers fleeing war and ending up in a completely alien nation tend to be confused and impressionable. He reconnected with german brethren and converted back to his birth religion during ww2. He stayed Lutheran for over 50 years. I doubt he was confused at that point.
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