Hello all, how have you been. I'm happy to see this place hasn't been banned yet, even if it seems slower than it used to be.
I think my last post was 2-3 years ago when I gave a little update on how my journey into self-improvement had been going. I figured it's way past time to give another one. Hopefully someone gets a little boost in motivation from this.
For anyone interested, I joined ConPro about when it migrated here from reddit, although I was never really all that active. I doubt even the old users that are still around remember me. This place inspired me to reevaluate most of my life and gave me the push I needed to start actively working on getting better at it.
I started working out a lot more actively. I can confidently say I'm now in the best shape I've been since I was 18. I regularly go out hiking and mountain climbing with people in their early 20s (I'm in my 30s) and I'm consistently one of the last ones going.
I learned a lot of woodland and bushcraft skills. I go camping by myself for days at a time. I picked up a bit of hunting and I'm currently working on navigating off the landscape with minimal tools and supplies. It's been huge fun, I highly recommend it! Still haven't picked up gardening. It brings me no joy and I've the privilege of having access to quality home grown food I can purchase (including meat). Maybe some day.
I also started learning basic skills like cooking (I make 95% of everything I eat), mechanical (I've not called a handyman for anything for a couple of years now) and electronic repair (phone and computer) and am currently wading through learning how to fix serious issues on my own car. I just finished rebuilding an entire VW with a couple of friends.
I also got into basic programming, image and video editing. I'm by no means great at it but I know the basics. I'm planning on focusing more on coding at some point in the coming year since it'll be useful for work and I only really know the basics of a couple of languages (HTML, Java, Python). I really don't enjoy it very much, though. Definitely not for me. Photo and video editing, on the other hand, is quite fun and I've been enjoying it immensely. I even set up a YT channel at one point to get feedback on my video edits, although I've deleted it since then.
I learned how to draw pretty decently and hopefully soon I'll have time to start learning an instrument properly. I'm actually completely talent-less when it comes to any of the fine arts, so this is extremely slow going but an hour or two every other day gets visible results.
I started trying to build up my own business in the field I've always wanted to work in. That failed. Miserably. So I had to go back to working my old job last year which pays well but is incredibly boring to me. At least it gave me a lot more free time to work on things. I've not given up, though. I'm currently gearing up for another try, hopefully with the experience I got the first time around I'll be able to do it better this time. I'm not fucking quitting.
On a personal level, having you lot challenging most of my ideas and worldview made me go back over pretty much every single thing I believe and support, reevaluate it and actually inform myself on the issue. I haven't changed my views that much (although I did skew quite a bit towards what normies consider far right and some libertarian views) and I still don't agree with everything most of ConPro believes but I can confidently say most of my opinions are now informed and logical, rather than basic and emotional. I might still be wrong about some of them, since I'm not God and don't have all the information but such is life. Thanks for that!
That being said, changing that drastically made a lot of people around me uncomfortable and I've lost quite a few relationships I had. It also strained most of the ones I still have quite significantly but I think they came out for the better in the end. It also showed me exactly who I can count on when things get serious which is priceless. I also got to "redpill" (not a fan of that term) a few of my friends and family, so I consider it well worth it. That being said, whoever claims people like change is absolutely fucking lying! Turns out that I can count the people I know who like change on one hand and still have some fingers left over. Keep that in mind.
Anyways, overall I feel better physically, mentally and emotionally than I ever have. Most of my efforts have been directed towards improving in the field I want to succeed in professionally but I've managed to get a decent spread of other skills going. I'm not the happiest I've ever been, that particular peak was when I was a clueless teen who didn't care for anything serious, but I am content with my life and the direction it's going in. The world might be going to shit but I'm not, at least not knowingly.
That's about it. I can go into greater detail if anyone is interested, these are just a few of the highlights. Turns out, you can actually pack a lot of living in a year (or three) if you're not glued to useless things like the TV or games.
On ConPro, like I mentioned, I'm glad you lot are still around (mostly). I'm a bit sad I only recognize a few of the usernames on the current threads but hopefully everyone who left did so for the right reasons. I'll be around for a few days to answer any questions or anything and to get a feel for how the site is doing but I'm probably going to focus on real life again come the new year.
To all the Kings here:
Live well, never falter, never quit! If I can do this shit, so can you!
P. S. I get that things are shit in many ways but that's no excuse to forget the self-improvement posts, the gardenposting, the shitting on blind consooming and, most importantly, the goatposting. WHERE'S THE FUCKING GOATPOSTING?
I think my last post was 2-3 years ago when I gave a little update on how my journey into self-improvement had been going. I figured it's way past time to give another one. Hopefully someone gets a little boost in motivation from this.
For anyone interested, I joined ConPro about when it migrated here from reddit, although I was never really all that active. I doubt even the old users that are still around remember me. This place inspired me to reevaluate most of my life and gave me the push I needed to start actively working on getting better at it.
I started working out a lot more actively. I can confidently say I'm now in the best shape I've been since I was 18. I regularly go out hiking and mountain climbing with people in their early 20s (I'm in my 30s) and I'm consistently one of the last ones going.
I learned a lot of woodland and bushcraft skills. I go camping by myself for days at a time. I picked up a bit of hunting and I'm currently working on navigating off the landscape with minimal tools and supplies. It's been huge fun, I highly recommend it! Still haven't picked up gardening. It brings me no joy and I've the privilege of having access to quality home grown food I can purchase (including meat). Maybe some day.
I also started learning basic skills like cooking (I make 95% of everything I eat), mechanical (I've not called a handyman for anything for a couple of years now) and electronic repair (phone and computer) and am currently wading through learning how to fix serious issues on my own car. I just finished rebuilding an entire VW with a couple of friends.
I also got into basic programming, image and video editing. I'm by no means great at it but I know the basics. I'm planning on focusing more on coding at some point in the coming year since it'll be useful for work and I only really know the basics of a couple of languages (HTML, Java, Python). I really don't enjoy it very much, though. Definitely not for me. Photo and video editing, on the other hand, is quite fun and I've been enjoying it immensely. I even set up a YT channel at one point to get feedback on my video edits, although I've deleted it since then.
I learned how to draw pretty decently and hopefully soon I'll have time to start learning an instrument properly. I'm actually completely talent-less when it comes to any of the fine arts, so this is extremely slow going but an hour or two every other day gets visible results.
I started trying to build up my own business in the field I've always wanted to work in. That failed. Miserably. So I had to go back to working my old job last year which pays well but is incredibly boring to me. At least it gave me a lot more free time to work on things. I've not given up, though. I'm currently gearing up for another try, hopefully with the experience I got the first time around I'll be able to do it better this time. I'm not fucking quitting.
On a personal level, having you lot challenging most of my ideas and worldview made me go back over pretty much every single thing I believe and support, reevaluate it and actually inform myself on the issue. I haven't changed my views that much (although I did skew quite a bit towards what normies consider far right and some libertarian views) and I still don't agree with everything most of ConPro believes but I can confidently say most of my opinions are now informed and logical, rather than basic and emotional. I might still be wrong about some of them, since I'm not God and don't have all the information but such is life. Thanks for that!
That being said, changing that drastically made a lot of people around me uncomfortable and I've lost quite a few relationships I had. It also strained most of the ones I still have quite significantly but I think they came out for the better in the end. It also showed me exactly who I can count on when things get serious which is priceless. I also got to "redpill" (not a fan of that term) a few of my friends and family, so I consider it well worth it. That being said, whoever claims people like change is absolutely fucking lying! Turns out that I can count the people I know who like change on one hand and still have some fingers left over. Keep that in mind.
Anyways, overall I feel better physically, mentally and emotionally than I ever have. Most of my efforts have been directed towards improving in the field I want to succeed in professionally but I've managed to get a decent spread of other skills going. I'm not the happiest I've ever been, that particular peak was when I was a clueless teen who didn't care for anything serious, but I am content with my life and the direction it's going in. The world might be going to shit but I'm not, at least not knowingly.
That's about it. I can go into greater detail if anyone is interested, these are just a few of the highlights. Turns out, you can actually pack a lot of living in a year (or three) if you're not glued to useless things like the TV or games.
On ConPro, like I mentioned, I'm glad you lot are still around (mostly). I'm a bit sad I only recognize a few of the usernames on the current threads but hopefully everyone who left did so for the right reasons. I'll be around for a few days to answer any questions or anything and to get a feel for how the site is doing but I'm probably going to focus on real life again come the new year.
To all the Kings here:
Live well, never falter, never quit! If I can do this shit, so can you!
P. S. I get that things are shit in many ways but that's no excuse to forget the self-improvement posts, the gardenposting, the shitting on blind consooming and, most importantly, the goatposting. WHERE'S THE FUCKING GOATPOSTING?
While I fully agree that both are a problem and actively working to make things worse for most, especially people of European descent, I don't quite believe that they are anywhere as united and coordinated, both inside themselves and with each other, as most people here think. Human nature, at least in my experience, just doesn't work that way. What I feel is correct, instead, is that there are various groups within these (and other similar) problematic ideologies that have various goals and are prone to infighting, as with most groups, however many of their goals are served by similar steps, such as mass migration, so they often work together towards different goals through similar means. For example, globalists and capitalists (I am oversimplifying both groups by using these terms for ease of reading) may want more immigration for either monetary or ideological reasons, whereas many zionists are, at least apparently, supporting it also because of emotional reasons. These people most likely disagree greatly on many levels but each of their interests is served by supporting this idea, so they appear in lockstep to outsiders. Now, realistically, this isn't super relevant currently as their reasons are less important currently than stopping their actions but if we want to solve problems like that definitively we need to understand both the motivations and goals of all the varying groups, else we miss some of them and they rear their heads further down the line when society no longer is as cautious about them as it should be.
I also do not believe that all globalist, zionist or jews are evil. I do think many are culpable, as they shield the unacceptable ones due to their in-group preference but lumping entire populations in a single pile does not sit well with me, especially since I know several jews, for example, that despise everything many of their brethren stand for.
True! What I say is that it's the nature of the jew to be as they are. Their culture, their religion, their sense of nationality are the underlying elements that make them do what they do. It doesn't require coordination (conspiracy) for jews to exert in-group preference, or to do things that harm our countries. Sure, they have their little rabbi meetings, but there are literal jews who push maximum degeneracy even in israel - because that's how they are.
> so they appear in lockstep to outsiders
Exactly.
> especially since I know several jews, for example, that despise everything many of their brethren stand for.
That is a true dilemma. If 50% of a group are either causing or supporting agendas that harm your people, what are you going to do? Go through every single one of them and find the good and bad ones? Mistakes are inevitable, and it will require continuous vigilance to ensure no jew goes rogue again - requiring a lot of government power and laws against **everybody**, not just them. There is one simple way: Total eradication, and the problem is guaranteed to be solved.
See, the "good jews" had plenty of chance to distance themselves from the bad ones. For example by ceasing to be a "jew", or refusing to have their offspring be classified as "jews." I know some too who are just minding their own business and cause no problems to our societies - or are even good, but what if their children are different and become bad jews? What if the "good jews" would resent your people after generations after you dealt with the bad jews?
I don't think the hard way can be avoided here. The price for "good consciousness" is enormous, and it's not you who pays for it.
It would appear we are more in agreement than I first thought. While I am by no means an expert on the subject, I absolutely acknowledge that jewish culture as it currently stands is incredibly destructive and damaging to others. Whether this is by conscious choice or a confluence of circumstances, I, quite frankly, have no idea but it ultimately matters little with regard to the issues we currently face. That being said, they are hardly the only negative elements that are active nowadays. In many ways, I don't even consider them to be the most immediately damaging. That particular "honor" falls on the shoulders of "social justice" and lgbt+ (or whatever they call themselves nowadays) as the consequences of those foolish ideas are the societal equivalent of a dirty bomb and will take generations to fix. I am aware that many jews pushed, and still actively push, these ideas but, realistically, they've long outgrown their roots and are a phenomenon of their own. Just look at how they turned on Israel due to the conflict with Palestine.
"See, the "good jews" had plenty of chance to distance themselves from the bad ones."
Oh, I firmly believe these people are culpable in many ways. If I hide a known murderer, even if he was my friend or relative, that makes me culpable to that crime. I simply don't think lumping all these people together is morally justified. I am aware that many people believe that drastic circumstances, and current day circumstances are very drastic in multiple ways, make extreme measures an unfortunate necessity. I vehemently disagree. I do not believe the end justifies the means and my morality would not allow me to cross certain lines. While those lines are much fewer and vaguer than most people might think, at least for me, I would not be who I am if I surrendered them on the altar of survival. Ultimately, for me there are much worse things than death.
That being said, this is my own personal choice and I have neither the right nor the desire to force my stance on anyone. I will, however, caution anyone to consider whether the price is sometimes too steep, even for survival. Especially since I believe there are still ways to solve current day issues without going way too far.
Actively subversive and damaging ideological groups or individuals, however, are and should be considered targets for a clearly defined and expressed justice system.
Yeah... I don't think your views diverge much from ConPro. Even if we deviate from others, it still fits well. Not that I want to lure you back, so if you have better things to do, better do that.
> they've long outgrown their roots and are a phenomenon of their own. Just look at how they turned on Israel due to the conflict with Palestine.
I don't think they can be separated. You have arsonists and a forest fire. The arsonists don't need to do anything to keep the forest fire going once they started it, and the forest fire is a problem in itself. But these arsonists have participated in every step of the way to create the fire, maybe even to make the forest as inflammable as possible. And they continue to set fires.
This woke LGBT ideology is a combination of rampant degeneracy, isolation and increased internet usage, censorship, the idea of "equality" (this one is a massive one btw), feminism, effeminate men, increase in illusions across society (like fake hospitality, playing pretend and playing along). If you deal with the arsonists, the fires will die out. And once the arsonists are gone, there is no problem with forest fires any more (in this analogy at least).
The israel situation isn't even as stark as you think. It's more about "evil white colonizers" doing their thing again. The leftists hate Whites, and they see israel as a proxy of us. Although it makes some people notice.
> I simply don't think lumping all these people together is morally justified.
But is it even a moral question at this point? Or a question of survival, of necessity?
> Ultimately, for me there are much worse things than death.
What about leaving your children and their children in shambles? To let them suffer in poverty, bad environments, oppression, maybe even extinction, just so that you can have a sleep in moral gratification?
This is a sacrifice most people are not willing to take. And neither in the past. Neither did NS Germany. And who pays the price? ALL of Germans since then, and it's only getting worse. The arsonists keep coming back, and they get more vicious, brutal and destructive every time.
Communism has shown us new peaks of unprecedented malevolence. And today we are facing slow extinction through a sickness of apathy. What comes next? Some Black Mirror type dystopia?
> Especially since I believe there are still ways to solve current day issues without going way too far.
But isn't it already too late for "peaceful" solutions? I don't see a good outcome if many people are not willing to make sacrifices - be it physical or psychological. I think morality is a luxury we can no longer afford.
I shouldn't, after all this place was one of the main drivers of my introspection and growth. That being said, while I have missed having discussions like ours, it's probably for the best if I still limit my time on the Internet. Although I will probably visit more often than I have for the past couple of years.
"I don't think they can be separated."
Perhaps I did not explain myself properly. I do not believe they should be separated. My approach to solving issues is to divide them into smaller parts until I'm left with a concrete set of steps that I believe I need to follow to get my desired result. With regard to that, I think issues need to be prioritized according to what the end goal is. In this situation, my end goal is the preservation and safeguarding of my people and their culture. When taking that into account, the groups and people that started these ideologies but do not, in my opinion, actively control them are less of a priority than defeating the ideologies themselves, especially since combating either requires actively involving regular people (normies) who are notoriously bad at multi-tasking and taking circumstances into account. As such, I believe these people are not the "immediate" problem, although they are still a problem.
"But is it even a moral question at this point? Or a question of survival, of necessity?"
Here is where I differ from many people. Everything is, or at the very least should be, a moral question, in my opinion. To be without morals is to be less than human. Morality is what makes us who we are as a species/race. To give up our morality is to give up our humanity. It is not, in my opinion, a question of gratification. I have not, in my limited years on this world, ever come across a situation where choosing the moral thing has led to failure or choosing the immoral thing has led to success long-term. Yes, in the short term one may have been more expedient and instantly gratifying (including materially) but over time those actions always lead to positive (moral) or negative (immoral) consequences. I have observed this not only for myself but when it comes to the actions of others.
Of course, it's entirely possible that I've simply been fortunate in my circumstances and I may be completely wrong, however we are our experiences, in many ways, and I cannot ignore what my personal experience has shown me.
"But isn't it already too late for "peaceful" solutions?"
I seem to have left you with a rather mistaken impression of my position. I apologize.
I am not at all advocating for exclusively "peaceful" solutions. While those would be preferable, I am well aware that different situations require different approaches. While my own country, for example, is not so far gone as to be unsalvageable, I think, others, like the UK, are on the precipice of violence being a requirement (although even there it is, I believe, not unavoidable yet). What I am against is what a lot of people would call a "final" solution. Lumping in entire populations with the truly guilty. While as you said, this usually leads to further issues down the line, I do not believe life to be so clear cut as to be essentially solvable.
There will always be issues. There will always be problem groups or individuals. It is human nature. Even if every other group were removed, fools within would still create these or similar problems. The solution to that is not removing others, it is in empowering ourselves and our own. A people more knowledgeable, more capable and more moral that work to counter any negative influences. Discarding our morality would not be a service to achieving this.
There is no utopia in our future, only an eternity of hard work. I, for one, do not see this as a problem.
As you gave NS Germany as an example, I would like to ask you to consider this: Did discarding their morals to pursue violent solutions work out for them? Would they, and us in current times, have been better served by acting as an example of a successful different approach to creating society? Would having a NS Germany in today's world not have been a counterweight to all the foolishness that is flowing out of the collective "West"?
Again, I do not have all (or maybe any) of the answers. I'm simply sharing my own thoughts and ideas. Perhaps I'm wrong and you are right. I don't know but discussing things is definitely stimulating my thoughts on these issues. For that, I'd very much like to thank you, especially since you've taken the time out of your holiday season for this.
Moral choices on the level of individuals is way more simple than large scale moral questions. I can't say I was much involved in moral dilemmas, but I figured that not adhering to law and etiquette was quite rewarding, and adhering to it turned out to be infuriatingly bad.
Also be reminded that reciprocity is essential when it comes to morality. You have no obligation to uphold moral principles to those who do not uphold the same to you. And you *actively should not.*
> Even if every other group were removed, fools within would still create these or similar problems.
Sure. Not all problems can be solved, but we have active arsonists and forest fires, and we have no time to deal with other problems other than the most glaring ones. 3rd world importation, its perpetrators and the crumbling economies are massive problems.
> As you gave NS Germany as an example, I would like to ask you to consider this: Did discarding their morals to pursue violent solutions work out for them?
They didn't discard their morality at all. The short version is this: Germany rose up against jewish tyranny, the jews rallied across the West against Germany, already dead set in 1933 to destroy Germany, as the communist jews rallied across the East. Then they fought Germany from two sides to reestablish jewish tyranny again. And as a reminder as to how good they were, they killed many millions of German civilians after the war via starvation, enacted indoctrination programs, established the usual usury systems, enacted heavy handed censorship, a little holocaust hoax to eternally guilt-trip Germans (and milk money from them forever) and to portray them as eternal victims, oh and the East occupied half of Europe, causing multiple decades of misery, basically confirming Hitler to be right about them all along.
The Germans did not commit genocides, they didn't use their huge amount of Sarin gas, they didn't allow their soldiers to rape or commit other atrocities. They were the most civil people across the world. France was way better off before the Allied "liberation" for example.
Germany didn't even start the war - Poland was emboldened by Britain to murder Germans in Danzig, forcing Germany's hand. They wanted war with Germany since 1933, and they did their best to provoke it.
> Would they, and us in current times, have been better served by acting as an example of a successful different approach to creating society?
If they'd actually have abandoned their morals, use Sarin gas, actually killed all the jews in the camps, aggressively went against their enemies instead of inundating them with peace offers, yes - they'd be much better off, might even have won, and even in defeat would have solved the jewish problem for quite a while. Guess what, without jews to come up with the holohoax, there would be no holocaust, there would be no movie about it, no eternal guilt-tripping programs either.
> For that, I'd very much like to thank you, especially since you've taken the time out of your holiday season for this.
Always a pleasure to have meaningful conversations.