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this. the list is shit. the "active users" numbers are absurdly low, even for DAUs.
larry page / sergei brin didn't create youtube. they bought it many years after it was created. the CEO of youtube (mohan) is indian. the CEO of alphabet (pichai) is indian.
messenger is also not a separate social network. it still uses your facebook login.
zuckerberg did not make whatsapp. he bought it from jan koum (jewish) and brian acton (not jewish). acton went on to found signal, which is confirmed a CIA honeypot messaging app.
silberman is not the CEO of pinterest, hasn't been with them since 2022.
lynton is not the CEO or founder of snap.
if people are going to spread shit like this, it should at least be accurate.
around J6, someone had done a dump. it showed they took a shitload of money from DARPA and a lot of people involved were all DOJ/NSA or "state department" (CIA) stooges. especially with matt rosenfeld (aka moxie), dude has so many ties to the CIA. WSJ reported that ian schuler at the "state department" (again, CIA) got him a $1.3 million grant specifically for signal. https://archive.is/7uLsN. that ballooned to over $3m https://yasha.substack.com/p/signal-is-a-government-op-85e. their financial troubles when the gov started cutting them off were rather well documented https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/signal-facing-collapse-after-cia and https://www.mintpressnews.com/the-open-technology-fund-makes-privacy-apps-staffed-spies/279147/
> you can verify the compiled code matches the code on the app stores
this is not that reliable. apkdiff uses apktool which does not do what you think it does. even apktool admits it's not perfect 1:1 comparisons. the only way to verify would be to hash it and compare the hashes, but that will NEVER work because every build device fingerprints the apk.
the vault7 dump on wikileaks in 2017 said the CIA was already cracking signal, and a huawei (CCP) engineer separately reported they had cracked it too in 2018. it's not known whether this was from a direct backdoor, or accessing the messages through other means (e.g compromising the keyboard or TTS accessibility apps).
(1) the production APK cannot be verified, especially not on iOS. nothing you've said changes this fact. the "guide" on how to verify it for android does not do that. it says to use apkdiff, which uses apktool, which is not a bytecode comparison.
(2) when tor was compromised, the intel community happily pushed chumps to use it, knowing that those chumps could be de-anonymized.
(3) no one is talking about cracking the encryption itself, except for china, who claims to have an AI quantum computer that can do it. take that with as you want, but the encryption itself doesn't need to be cracked if signal can be compromised outside the encryption layer. again, I even mentioned the keyboard and accessibility layers having gaping holes that would make it so signal does not provide the claimed security.
TBH, your comment is coming off as pilpul. address the issues or GTFO.
larry page / sergei brin didn't create youtube. they bought it many years after it was created. the CEO of youtube (mohan) is indian. the CEO of alphabet (pichai) is indian.
messenger is also not a separate social network. it still uses your facebook login.
zuckerberg did not make whatsapp. he bought it from jan koum (jewish) and brian acton (not jewish). acton went on to found signal, which is confirmed a CIA honeypot messaging app.
silberman is not the CEO of pinterest, hasn't been with them since 2022.
lynton is not the CEO or founder of snap.
if people are going to spread shit like this, it should at least be accurate.
> you can verify the compiled code matches the code on the app stores
this is not that reliable. apkdiff uses apktool which does not do what you think it does. even apktool admits it's not perfect 1:1 comparisons. the only way to verify would be to hash it and compare the hashes, but that will NEVER work because every build device fingerprints the apk.
the vault7 dump on wikileaks in 2017 said the CIA was already cracking signal, and a huawei (CCP) engineer separately reported they had cracked it too in 2018. it's not known whether this was from a direct backdoor, or accessing the messages through other means (e.g compromising the keyboard or TTS accessibility apps).
(2) when tor was compromised, the intel community happily pushed chumps to use it, knowing that those chumps could be de-anonymized.
(3) no one is talking about cracking the encryption itself, except for china, who claims to have an AI quantum computer that can do it. take that with as you want, but the encryption itself doesn't need to be cracked if signal can be compromised outside the encryption layer. again, I even mentioned the keyboard and accessibility layers having gaping holes that would make it so signal does not provide the claimed security.
TBH, your comment is coming off as pilpul. address the issues or GTFO.