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I have reached my limit trying to adhere to "Christianity." I know without a doubt that Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God, as foretold by the prophets of the Almighty Father, the creator of Earth and Heaven. This Almighty gave birth to the elements and gathered them together to form man. The breath of the Almighty has been endowed in all sons of Adam and this is our everlasting soul.

The Christian religion is in shambles and being travestied every next day. There is no currently correct established Christian faith. I argue scripture and people come out with various translations that are significantly different than the LV, but who can even be sure the LV is correct? It is the oldest complete text, but supposedly is ripe with things that are not properly contextualized. That said, the Catholics and Orthodox probably come the closest simply because they pursue virtue and the practice of virtue, right or wrong, invokes favor from God. This, I think, is why the Muslims are more resilient from Satan's tricks than modern Christians are. Christians have traded virtue for convenience and more Muslims, however wrong they are, view luxury as decadence while actively invoking the Almighty.

The True Religion only exists within the human soul. When Adam and Eve partook of the fruit, we became as God and Christ the Governor, suddenly being able to discern evil from good. Being their posterity we have inherited the knowledge. It is not something that has to be taught or otherwise imputed into us at any age, we simply know how to be good. Even the evil among us speak of this: evil masquerades as good and believes itself to be so. Only complete lunatics and fruit cakes actively *think* they are evil.

How does one receive the religion of God?

 1. You must invoke __the GOD__. This is the God of creation. Do not invoke lesser gods or limit GOD'S power in your contemplation of Him. He is the Father of all. Nothing has ever been created but through the Father of all.

2. Surrender yourself to the Christ. Christ is the Spirit which navigated the waters before creation. Christ is the GOD which governs the Father's creation. Christ rules over the physical world and He alone holds the key to eternity. The Christ is made manifest in the Faithful (the Church). "Any who meet in my name, I will be there in the midst of them." "Know ye not that you are the Temple of the Spirit which dwells inside you?" The Christ is invoked by virtuous physical action and responds in kind to charity, according to the will of his Father. Christ reads your actions, whereas the Father reads your heart. The Christ is Jesus, who lives forever in the flesh and will return with the resurrection.

3. Once you have invoked God and surrendered yourself to Christ, God will search your heart for your faith through temptation. Satan will follow after. Faith is a great mixture of things. First, it is utter belief in God and Jesus Christ. Second, it is practicing virtue for the sake of love. There is no selfishness in faith. Third, it is retaining virtue for the sake of love through all the trials of life. Love being love for your family and those sojourning among you. Love is actively seeking to compel them to ultimate virtue (NOT HAPPINESS OR COMFORT).. it is not a simple emotion, but the selfless actions that would and should be procured by this emotion.

4. When you have been found faithful, you will receive the Holy Spirit. The test of faith has no set time. God simply searches your heart and this search exists outside of time. If it is good, then you will receive communion with the faithful and the Holy Spirit will live within you.

5. THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL LEAVE IF FAITH IS NOT MAINTAINED. Life will continue as it always has. But now, having the Holy Spirit and the Christ watching over you, the temptations will become apparent. You will feel shame at your wicked thoughts and actions. God is watching. Follow the Commandments, follow St. Paul's advice. An unrepentant sinner will not receive eternal life. YOU ARE EXPECTED TO RESIST TEMPTATIONS. Satan will attempt to convince you otherwise, the Protestants will say "oh well, you're already saved so go be an Adulterer!" Catholics will say "sin and confess!" NO. God will hold you in his favor UNTIL YOU STRAY AGAIN.

6. God will assist you against the temptations of Satan. Call upon Him and ask him for his Seven Spirits. There is an entire host of Heaven, DO NOT WORSHIP IT, but God will send his army to you. The Saints pray for you, the Angels watch over you and the Seven Sprits will guide you in this world. These same will advocate for or condemn you in the day of your Judgement.

7. As St. Paul says, remain in constant prayer. We can come to understand concepts by the worship done by the Israelites, although they were caught in the devil's letter instead of God's spirit. They prayed outwardly and utilized action to pray. This is what the Christian ought to do, but correctly. Sacrifices are done in the spirit. As Israel fanned the life blood of the sacrifice onto the alter, we fan the life blood of Christ onto the Church. Meaning do charity. Be good to your brothers and sisters. Sacrifice your own comfort for the comfort of another. Provide a shoulder for a sister to cry on. Expect nothing in return, and accept nothing in return. This is because faith is love and love alone. Prayer is accomplished in goodness of soul and person.

8. Money is Satan. The primary thought of the Christian should be emotionally distancing oneself from money as much as possible. Raise your own food if this is possible. Make your own clothes, or do not seek vanity in choosing them but thriftiness (I speak as a hypocrite). Do not seek fancy cars and things. It is good to save money and this is what one should do with excess. A genuine character and money is what procures success in this world, and that should not be ignored because this must be by God's consent. However, money is evil and it should be used as a tool instead of a life.

9. The Christian should understand that evil is simply anything that is bad for the community. We do not have to look into the scripture and say "homosexuality is a sin because it says so here." It is a sin because it is unhealthy for society. Vanity, luxury, excessive consumption, effeminacy, promiscuity, laziness.. These personal characteristics are sins because they actively degrade society.

10. The Christian must rebuke evil by any means. Evil uses deception, and Christians should also use deception when working against Satan. This is permitted by God in the OT, where various Hebrews lied to save Israel to exact vengeance against strangers who dishonored their daughters. We are in a continuous fight against the demons who lie and mask their intentions to obtain positions of power over us. Christianity in Roman Empire used subtlety to gain the majority, then the mask fell off, words ended and the sword was drawn. Satan will do the same against us. Lie your way into power if you must. Deceive the infidel to protect the Church, but never deny Christ even with threat of death. To die for the faithful is the ultimate honor.
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deleted 1 year ago 10 points (+0 / -0 / +10Score on mirror ) 1 child
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Ok but these churches for the most part seem to be little more than centers of Marxist indoctrination.

I went into these places hoping to find people who were actively resisting temptation, but I found people living for the flesh and telling me that I'm wrong for trying to not do so.
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JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
There's a few that look somewhat promising but they're pretty far away. The churches near me are mostly protestant and packed with boomers.

I really don't like the whole preaching and mass thing either. Jesus says be as little children.. As a little child, mass was a drag. The only thing bringing most of these people into church is fear or desire for favor. There is something wrong with it. Worship shouldn't be a forceful thing. But then you get these mega Church idiots who stand on a stage like rockstars, blaspheming. This is what brings in the crowds.

Why not just have dinner with friends and family, pray together, break bread and share a bottle of wine?
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JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>weeknight meetups

Lucky you. The Churches around here are almost completely inactive.
WhatWouldMountainDew on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
No offense, but this reads like a stream of consciousness monologue from someone who needs to spend more time reading their Bible and a good systematic theology.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Tell me where I deviate from the scripture and I will explain why I am absolutely in line with it.
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JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>4:1. I therefore, a prisoner in the Lord, beseech you that you walk worthy of the vocation in which you are called: 4:2. With all humility and mildness, with patience, supporting one another in charity. 4:3. __Careful to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.__ 4:4. One body and one Spirit: as you are called in one hope of your calling.

>5:18. And be not drunk with wine, wherein is luxury: but be ye filled with the Holy Spirit,

If the Holy Spirit is always with us, why would Paul have to warn us to keep unity with it and also warn us against luxury, so that we remain filled with it?

Also refer to 2 Peter in it's entirety.

>For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

This isn't saying exactly that the Holy Spirit will *leave* but the implication might be there. I also have problems with the typical Protestant thinking that the Holy Spirit commandeers the person forever upon Baptism and all actions done thereon out is done through the Spirit.

No, a person who has turned back on the Spirit and surrenders himself to abomination does not have the spirit any longer.

>16This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.17For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.18But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.24And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

Does somebody who at one time surrenders and receives the Spirit, who turns back from it nd engages in witchcraft retain the Spirit of God?

I do not believe the "never a real Christian" fallacy. We can absolutely be in favor and out of favor.
fourleaved on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
I get the frustration. But if you in Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God, you should be in communion with the Church He established here on earth
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Which of the masses is correct then? Which should I be in communion with?

The NO? Maybe the Mayan Rite, where women conduct incense giving and liturgy? Maybe the TLM, that the current Catholic administration is clearly at odds with?

The Catholic Church is broken. It actively subverts our countries with cultural Marxist ideology and the priests who *should* be doing something about it go along because their doctrine teaches absolute obedience.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
>t actively subverts our countries with cultural Marxist ideology

That isnt the Catholic Church, that's literally a KGB psyop designed to imitate and replace Catholicism with a judaized false doctrine called Liberation Theology. Look it up, the KGB actually admitted to creating it, and since its a form of Communism, its already been formally condemned by the Syllabus of Errors.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Yes but the implication of saying the Peter's Throne is subverted is not good.

If there is a heathen or one who is unworthy sitting on the temporal throne.. Then what? How is going to TLM going to effect anything? The Church is no longer infallible. God has turned his face from it and left the Catholics to be shepherded by an infidel.

Why?
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>God has turned his face from it and left the Catholics to be shepherded by an infidel.

Because God gives us the leaders we deserve. The goyest gen and boomers absolutely destroyed the faith because they were worldly and judaizers, so God gave them a Pope that reflects them to a T. Pope Francis is a mirror to the state of the faithful.
Byzantine_Shill on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 2 children
The biggest errors people make in this situation is calling heretics and obvious pagans/agnostics “Christians”. If you consider a Catholic and a pro-sodomy heretical sect the same group, you’ll end up confusing yourself and make the mistake of giving subversive elements legitimacy.

This is why I say stop giving new world agnostics the name of Catholics and any related ranks when they completely reject the Church. If nationalists ever gain power, they’d do well to follow this and kick out every single priest claiming to be Catholic but actively subvert and harm society.
TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
>a Catholic and a pro-sodomy heretical sect the same group

But they are the same group.
Byzantine_Shill on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 3 children
Vatican II is outside the Catholic Church. No one has authority to approve sodomy because it goes against both divine and natural law. There are limitations on what can be approved based on established laws. Attempts to deny divine law is akin to rejecting the Church thus the Vatican II and its followers are automatically excommunicated and separated from the Church.
TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
I shouldn’t have expected anything else from someone who comes here. Hear hear, brother. We have the power to mend even the Great Schism in our lifetime. Always maintain hope.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
........Optimistic tallestskil?

What timeline is this?
TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
I’ve always been optimistic. You can go back as far as you please and find that I’ve always had personal views that we can still save ourselves. Part of me even thinks that, if a subset of our group simply agrees to surrender ourselves and our personal feelings to doing absolutely *anything,* we could make the world white within our lifetimes.

But in general, I’ve always felt we could reclaim our “original” countries, at least. It’s just that I’ve learned my personal opinions don’t mean a goddamned thing in the face of reality, so it’s just not relevant for me to post here.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Ironically, Vatican II actually didnt formally declare anything, the only legitimate parts reinforced already existing Catholic teachings. I believe the Pope at the time declared it didnt create any binding doctrine or alter any dogma. The real issue was that the laxness of that council was used as a basis for heretical priests to Judaize the Church because the (((Freemasons))) at the council used "Ecumenism" as a trojan horse to tolerate mixing of faiths under the guise of "Evangelization" instead of actual ecumenism.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 2 children
Ok where is the true Church then? Can I go to one? If you mention one and I look it up, will its website have black people all over the front page of their site, despite being a 100% white church?
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Look for a traditionalist Catholic Church,unless its in africa, there probably wont be any black people on their website, if they even have a website.
Byzantine_Shill on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
There are no traditional Catholic Churches in the US to my knowledge. Main reason is due to the [correct Rite of Ordination being replaced around the mid 1900s and remaining valid priests becoming schismatics](https://vaticancatholic.com/where-to-receive-sacraments/)

https://vaticancatholic.com/
TakenusernameA on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
>If nationalists ever gain power, they’d do well to follow this and kick out every single priest claiming to be Catholic but actively subvert and harm society.

Part of me wonders if the this wasnt *exactly* what Hitler was doing when he was allegedly "persecutiing" the Church, because after the Nazis lost power, the German "Catholic Church" became a cesspit of the worst heresy imaginable, theyre an utter joke and if we had a Traditionalist Pope who feared God more than the jews, theyd all be excommunicated and replaced with people who actually worship Christ.
RetardStrength on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
you should check out probably the only based boomer in existence. Fritz Berggren was fired from the state department because of his podcast
https://bloodandfaith.com/
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I'll check it out
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 2 children
> There is no currently correct established Christian faith.

Have you investigated the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

> Christians have traded virtue for convenience and more Muslims, however wrong they are, view luxury as decadence while actively invoking the Almighty.

"a religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things never has the power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation.” - Joseph Smith

The muslims aren't entirely wrong, and it's debatable whether modern Christians are more wrong than them.

> The True Religion only exists within the human soul.

You are very much correct. There is no salvation or exaltation for those who are not going to embrace every aspect of religion with their entire soul. Those who think trite phrases, outward ordinances or church affiliation has any power to save are fooling themselves.

On your point 3 RE Faith, I do not disagree but let me add something you may be missing. The way the ancients used the word "faith" had nothing to do with thinking something is true or not. It had everything to do with loyalty and devotion. Meaning, "faith in Jesus Christ", to them, had nothing to do with whether you thought Jesus was real. It had everything to do with whether you accepted him as your Lord and Savior and were willing to submit to him in all things.

The reason why faith in Jesus Christ equates to love and action is because that is the sort of being Jesus Christ is. That is what he does and that is what he compels us to do if we allow him to.

RE 4 -- you really need to investigate the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We believe that the Holy Ghost reaches out to strangers to God and invites them or prompts them to do certain things to bring them closer to God. When they have made sufficient progress, then the Holy Ghost will invite them to receive baptism and then the laying on of hands for the Gift of the Holy Ghost. At this point, the individual can become in full communion with the Holy Ghost, and he will further refine the individual until they are ready to be introduced to Jesus Christ not as a metaphysical concept but as a physical being. Once the individual is in communion with Jesus Christ, they are then conducted to the Father, where they can be further refined until they become just like him.

RE 6: Casting out Satan isn't magic. Use the name of Jesus Christ and cast him out. Don't invite him back in. That is all there is to it. Once you recognize who he is, how he feels, and how he operates, you'll understand what condition the world is really in and why things are so backwards.

RE 8: Money is not evil. The LOVE of money is evil. Really, it is the worship of a false idol, because money isn't real. Money is an abstract concept for a very real and holy thing called labor and wealth. We should be seeking for the Kingdom of God in the material world as well as spiritual ones. We SHOULD be building vast fortunes of wealth and vast armies of laborers and such, but we should not be worshiping the false idol that money is because money is NOT those things.

To make this plainer: I would rather have a castle and an army than the money needed to buy a castle and an army. If I uselessly stack cash, never actually building that castle or building that army, I have wasted my life in the vain pursuit of an imaginary concept, rather than actually obtaining the thing I had desired the entire time. This is actually a problem in our economy, as vast fortunes of wealth and labor are wasted just increasing numbers on spreadsheets, rather than actually building houses, roads, training workers and paying them to do the work, etc...

RE 9 sin: I like to think of it as "Sin is anything that pulls us away from what God wants us to do and be." IE, God wants us to be powerful, noble, virtuous, etc... all those things. Anything that holds us back from becoming those things, that's contrary to the will of God, and if we pursue them, well we are no longer following God are we?

RE 10 rebuking evil: What you say is true. However, if we are wasting our effort fighting evil rather than building the kingdom of God, what have we gained? I like to look at it like this: IF we find that something is hindering our efforts to build up the kingdom, THEN we target that thing. There is no reason to go after every weed or boulder, just the ones that are interfering with our plans.

Right now, for our day and age, each man and woman should be building their families, birthing children (as many as they physically can) and then raising them in the right way. For those of you who are not members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that means living rightly, teaching your kids to pray and be nice to each other, and reading the Bible together as a family. We members have a few extra things tacked on to that list, but they are only relevant to our church.

Anything that prevents anyone from taking the next step on that path -- that is the evil we must address RIGHT NOW. For instance, young men can't find good jobs and can't buy homes for their families. That, for me, is way more important than "saving the white race" whatever that is supposed to mean.

This is why I think it is a political priority to deport all of the illegal immigrants, and maybe a lot of the "legal" ones too. We need to get rid of income taxes and impose tariffs to bring the jobs back home. We should also be incentivizing or rather stop de-incentivizing the construction of new single-family homes rather than apartments and multi-family units.

I believe we should be encouraging young men to move out to rural USA, start saving for some farmland and learning how to raise animals and such on the land. That's the only viable career I see right now for young men.

I think solving these two immediate problems, even if we can only solve them for 2 or 3 people in our sphere of influence, will do more good than anything else. Right now, I have young adult children and you can bet that I am doing everything I can to get them in a successful career path AND home ownership AND marriage to a good spouse. I want them to get married young and have lots of babies and I've even told them that if they are concerned about money to come talk to me about it because I do NOT want them avoiding kids due to money concerns. If that means I subsidize my grandkids, I'll do it!
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
> Mentions the grand cult and heresy of the LDS

MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Who calls us a "grand cult" and a "heresy"?

Why the very Christian churches which have turned into an atheist factory and a den of degeneracy.

Meanwhile, we have the highest marriage rates and birth rates, the lowest divorce rates, and our people are much better off in every aspect of life than our counterparts.

Jesus promised "by their fruits ye shall know them" and our fruit is tasting pretty good.

How is your fruits working out?

How did you think a church could survive at all if it didn't accept the key principles of revelation and prophecy? I mean, I assume you read the Bible (but if you're not a member of my church, chances are you haven't, because we are way more literate about the Bible than any other Christian group, despite the fact that we have several other books of scripture we need to study.)
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 2 children
I've read your book.

It's heresy.
disoriented on scored.co
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I don't know what heresy is. It seems like it's used in the sense of "beliefs you have that don't correspond to my doctrine". I think it's so overused that it's meaningless, like the word "fascist".

But with that said, I think the LDS faith is utter nonsense and entirely fictitious.
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
> heresy

Heresy is any doctrine or teaching that would cause someone to be kicked out of the church.

In Christian context, it probably refers to Catholic teachings, which the protestants, for the most part, accept.

> utter nonsense and entirely fictitious

Believe whatever lies you want. That doesn't change the fact that they are lies.

Look past the thin veneer of falsehoods that the world presents about the true and living church, and investigate what it actually teaches, and you'll see how sly Satan is trying to hide the truth from the world.

Remember who is telling you that the church is stupid or evil. Remember who they represent and what they are doing. That should tell you all you need to know about the church.
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
You're lying

Name the heresy in the book
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
It starts at page one ... and continues through the Pearl.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 2 children
Yes, it's not openly pro-white even though it's 99% whites so it's probably an operated by an infiltrated hostile administration that will backstab you when the opportunity arises.

I do like you all but I don't trust that Joseph Smith is a prophet. Are there miracles attributed to him? What exactly did he do and why? At least Mohammed fought the pagans of Mecca in the name of God and was generally a radical iconoclast.. Which is pretty based..

The Catholic Saints have done miracles, and either this is true or the Catholic Church is literally Satan. Lying to the demons could be righteous if done for the right reasons, lying to the faithful about miracles to gain their trust *is* Satan.

>We believe that the Holy Ghost reaches out to strangers to God and invites them or prompts them to do certain things to bring them closer to God

I believe this is the basic human desire. To become closer to the Creator. All sons of Adam are imbedded with this. This is the basis of my "internal law" doctrine, that the true Law of God resides within us and it is uncovered through meditation, contemplation and rejection of the flesh.

>Casting out Satan isn't magic. Use the name of Jesus Christ and cast him out. Don't invite him back in. That is all there is to it.

There is absolutely more to it. Perhaps I am not truly Christian, but I have been in temptation before and called to God for strength but did not receive it. Therefore I fell back into it.

>Money is not evil. The LOVE of money is evil

Yes, I remember the scripture. I really think money itself is evil. The apostles used it for necessity and charity. Christ didn't even appear to have any since he ordered Peter(?) to obtain it from a fishes mouth. Somebody had to hand him a sheckle with Caesar's face on it. Also he ordered his preachers out without money and told them to accept food only.

>IF we find that something is hindering our efforts to build up the kingdom, THEN we target that thing

Satan merely existing is hindering the Kingdom of God on Earth.

>For those of you who are not members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that means living rightly, teaching your kids to pray and be nice to each other, and reading the Bible together as a family

Not enough. The Churches are not a bastion of tradition and morality anymore. They shadow a few decades behind the false virtues of modern society.
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
> but I don't trust that Joseph Smith is a prophet.

But he is! A false one.
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 2 children
> miracles of Joseph Smith

Raised people from the dead, healed an entire towns of people from malaria, had multiple visitations of multiple angels, God and Jesus with multiple witnesses present at the time.

There's so many miracles he experienced and performed it's ridiculous, honestly. Jesus prophesied that his disciples would do even greater miracles than he did, and I can testify that Joseph Smith and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have done far more miracles than were ever mentioned in the New Testament.

> what exactly did Joseph Smith do and why?

Joseph Smith is hard to put in a box. In short, he was visited by God the Father and Jesus Christ at the age of 14. He was subsequently visited by multiple angels and by God and Jesus many more times. He restored lost doctrines and histories fragments of which were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls and other recently discovered texts. Under direction of Jesus Christ, Peter, James and John he restored the church organization complete with apostles and prophets and such. He also received all the keys of all the dispensations and began the work that needs to happen before Jesus Christ can come to the earth again alluded to in the last verses of Malachi. And I'm only touching the tip of the iceberg.

In terms of who he was and what his mission is, I think the closest comparison is Moses or perhaps Enoch. The difference being that Jesus is preparing the earth for his rule and reign, so the work today is much greater than then.

> Catholic church did miracles

Miracles attend to ALL the faithful saints who follow Jesus Christ. I love my brothers and sisters who worship Christ in purity but who aren't members of my church (yet). I pray that God pours out blessings on their heads too.

> Satan can pretend to be an angel of light

We're well aware of that. Early on in the work, in fact, right before he was visited by God the Father and Jesus Christ, Satan tried to destroy Joseph Smith but he was able to overcome him with the power of Christ. The early church was sorely tempted by Satan in multiple ways. We know Satan very well as an enemy to our church and our work.

If you want some examples of how Satan operates, you don't have to search very far for people who are passionately opposed to the church to find his minions. The truth of the work is testified both by its adherents and the people who are trying to destroy it.

> rejection of the flesh

This is a false idea that comes from the pagan religions of the Greeks and Hindus. The flesh is not unholy. Jesus prayed, "Thy kingdom come, they will be done, ON EARTH as it is in heaven." We cannot become fully holy without our physical bodies.

Notably, all of the earthly passions we feel are not wrong as long as they are exercised under the constraints that Jesus puts on them. For instance, sex is wonderful -- if practiced as a married couple. Outside of that, it becomes horrible and degenerate.

Having mortal passions, being tempted by the flesh, this is not a sin nor is it evil. It is just life. Learn to live with it.

> there is absolutely more to casting out Satan / temptation

There is a difference between the inward struggle we face as mortal men subject to passions and such, and Satan's corrupting power and destructive influence.

Do not think that God will instantly free you from all of your temptations. He gave them to you for a reason. You are supposed to learn how to control them and manage them. Paul mentions this in his letters. As far as I know, Paul was never freed from his temptations, but struggled with them for the rest of his life.

Rather than pray for release from mortal passions, pray that God can give you strength to overcome or control them.

> money

Christ was already taken care of, money wise. The gift of gold likely paid for his entire life, plus carpenters weren't poor in the ancient world.

In terms of being paid to preach, absolutely that is not right. Paul mentions how he worked with his own hands to provide for himself and others while he ministered. That is the pattern we should follow.

But being wealthy is no sin either, provided you use that wealth in a way that pleases God. You must understand that we in the modern world are wealthy beyond imagination compared to the ancients. They lived in absolute poverty that we can't even imagine anymore. I thank God that I am wealthy because were I not, I wouldn't be able to do a fraction of what I can do for the kingdom today.

> churches are not a bastion of tradition and morality anymore

My friend, you really need to look into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
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>Having mortal passions, being tempted by the flesh, this is not a sin nor is it evil.

I very much disagree. It is not difficult to live in what we today would consider prude conditions if society adheres to these conditions and virtue is the premier characteristic instead of wealth or vanity. Sparta had it right. Individually they lived in poverty, but because of this, together they were the greatest among the ancients.

>Christ was already taken care of, money wise

A few of his apostles were fishermen and they appeared to keep near the rivers and coasts. Man needs 3 things: clean water, food and to keep dry within a certain temperature range. All else is excess. Jesus was not a rich man. He did not hoard gold. Anything his disciples did have was common and Acts gives us a hint of the economy of the early Church.

I MIGHT look into Mormonism a little more but my initial thoughts are that you're a heretical sect. Besides, I live in Indiana. Where am I going to find Mormons here? I think it was legal to kill them on site until like 1930.
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
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> heretical sect

Of course we are going to be considered heretical by degenerate Christians. They consider heterosexual relationships heretical now. And don't you say "Christ is King!" or they will scream "heresy!"

> Indiana

That was Missouri. They got butt-hurt that they got their butts kicked by a bunch of mormon boys. Pissed their pants when they had to face us off in battle and (falsely) claimed that they were all massacred by us. We also held off the US army when it tried to invade Utah with three guys and a canyon.

Look up churchofjesuschrist.org if you want to learn more and meet the missionaries. There's a bunch in Indiana. We're everywhere. The church is growing, we proselyte hard, and we marry young and have lots of babies.
BlueDrache on scored.co
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If you have a phone, you can download their "holy" book and read it.

Beware, it reads like a set of japanese stereo instructions written in ancient sumerian and you'll get sick of every phrase starting with "And it came to pass."

Joseph Smith was high on his own con-man farts when he wrote it.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
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I don't think I'm going to read it. I don't need a new thing confusing me even more..
MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
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You are a degenerate liar.

Repent of your sins.
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MI7BZ3EW on scored.co
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> trinity

The Bible teaches explicitly against some aspects of what you call the Trinity. It teaches quite clearly that God the Father and Jesus Christ are separate just like the disciples and Jesus are separate. Read John 17 to understand what "one" means. You'll note the concepts about consubstantiality or hypostatic union were entirely foreign to early Christians and made up to try and make Christianity look more like Greek pagan philosophy. Early Christians were fine with counting to 3. Once the apologists took over all of a sudden everyone forgot how math works and what "person" means.

Also, when you see "one God" in the Old Testament, it does NOT mean what you think it means. I won't go into too many details, but you can look up the biblical research and scholarly examinations of the passages people like to cite. In both cases, the text simply says "God is really, really awesome unlike all the other loser gods".

I can give you hours of lectures on what the words "el" "elohim" "demon" etc really mean. I won't distract from this but basically the modern idea of there only being one god while all the other "gods" are just fantasy and made up is ridiculous and certainly not based on anything the Bible says about it.

We have a quote we like to share about adherents to the Trinity, something along the lines of "They believe in a God without parts or passion, in essence, nothing at all, and so they are really atheists." One of my favorite logical syllogisms is simply this: "Jesus is God; Jesus has a body; therefore God has a body."

> Satan and Jesus are brothers

Hitler is a human. Gandhi is a human. OHMYGOSH DID YOU JUST SAY THAT HITLER AND GANDHI ARE TEH SAME PERSON?!

Satan chose a different path, so he was cast out of heaven and can never, ever become like Jesus. The fact that they were once similar means nothing. Satan chose his path, Jesus chose his. They are only enemies now. We can choose to follow Satan's path or Jesus' path. It's up to us to decide.

> additional revelations

Think of it this way. When Jesus appeared in the first century, people thought he was a fake because he didn't match THEIR understanding of what the Bible said he would be. Who was right? Jesus or the people's interpretation of the Bible? Paul did the same thing, re-interpreting the Old Testament to show that Jesus was prophesied since ancient times, not the false messiah who was going to beat up Rome and conquer the world through violence.

Prophets don't change the words. They explain the words. Jesus was teaching his disciples that they misunderstood what Isaiah was saying, and so Jesus' words are more important than THEIR UNDERSTANDING of Isaiah's words.

Joseph Smith did the same. People's understanding of the Bible was wrong. He had the spirit of prophecy so he was able to explain what they got right and what they got wrong. That's all it is. We do NOT believe that subsequent revelation replaces previous revelation. In fact, we teach that subsequent revelation CANNOT contradict previous revelation. That's one sign you have a false prophet or a false spirit. Instead, subsequent scripture should **CLARIFY** previous revelation, just like the New Testament illuminated the Old Testament.

That said, because of how language and culture and tradition works, if you want to really understand what the scriptures are saying, you have to listen to the living prophet, who understands your language and culture and traditions and can explain things in a way that you can understand it too. If you want to go to ancient prophets to learn things, you also have to learn their language, tradition and culture and even then you're going to miss some things that were obvious back then but not today.

> planet

That is a lie told by people who don't understand the first thing about what the Bible has to say about it.

Look up "deification" or "theosis." It is an ancient doctrine that is well-established by the earliest writings, and even the Orthodox church teaches it today.

We believe that we will become ONE with Christ as Christ is ONE with the Father. See Rev. 3:21 and John 17 for further context. There are other great scriptures that explain this idea but those are my go-to verses. If you want some modern revelation on it, see Doctrine and Covenants 76 and 84:33-44.

We are quite open about the fact that we are destined to become **like** God. We teach quite openly that those who overcome by faith will inherit EVERYTHING the Father has. Not just a planet or two, or a galaxy or whatever. We will be joint-heirs with Christ, as the Bible says.

The fact that Western Christianity lost this key doctrine shows how corrupt Western Christianity is. It's plainly in the Bible, in multiple ways and places, and it's still a strong traditional doctrine taught in the Orthodox church. The church fathers knew all about it. It was the big reason, I think, that Christianity spread so quickly among the pagans.

> Book of Mormon

You won't know what is in the Book of Mormon unless you read it.

Satan has put forward tremendous efforts to convince good people not to read the book. That's because he knows what happens to people who read it.
deleteme1234 on scored.co
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> I know without a doubt that Jesus Christ is the only begotten son of God

Deprogram yourself.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
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>Deprogram yourself

I'm far too gone to do that my good chum.
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cee8hooz on scored.co
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>The Christian religion is in shambles and being travestied every next day. There is no currently correct established Christian faith.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCBKULQaYAAAvqX.jpg
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
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No thx. I tested out Orthodoxy and they appeared to be a anti-Catholic reaction. Plus the priest told me their latest excommunication was a white nationalist who was at Charlottesville. The Orthodox church even lied about him to push the excommunication through.
cee8hooz on scored.co
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>they appeared to be a anti-Catholic reaction

If you use word "reaction" then you seem to be commie to me.
And about Roman Catholicism - of course Orthodoxy considers them heretics just like Protestants. "What a suprise" - papal supremacy and papacy is fucking lie and piece of shit leading into more and more heresies. Anybody would get it after reading about history of papacy.

>Plus the priest told me their latest excommunication was a white nationalist who was at Charlottesville

Ok.That is more valid argument.Forgot you are all Americans. Indeed even Orthodox church in USA is quite cucked. Who the fuck uses musical instruments like Roman Catholics instead of human voice to praise the God in Orthodox church ? Americans...
BlueDrache on scored.co
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Do you want to start a cult? Because this is how you start a cult.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
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If rejecting Satan, raising goats and doing charity work is a cult then sure.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
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Established Christianity is a fringe minority these days, what you hate is (((Modernism))), the jewish replacement designed to trick people into worshipping something other than Christ.

Find an old Catechism, I recommend the Catechism of the Summa Theologica, which can be found for free online, it should answer most of your questions.
FN57 on scored.co
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In an atheist, i just can't believe, so that's where I'm coming from. The catholic church, historically, is one of the most corrupt organizations on earth. They played politics and money, hard.

That being said these churches hanging the faggot flag really fucked up too. You can't read the Bible and interpret it as faggot friendly.
TakenusernameA on scored.co
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An organization as large and long lived as the Church is bound to have corrupt men within it, but an organization without the grace of God that the Church has would have died from that corruption centuries ago. The fact that the Church still manages to exist should be evidence enough it isnt of human origin.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Do you want to believe?

The Church administration is probably wrong. Their early theological doctrine is pretty sound.

Protestantism is just plain wrong.

But the true Church isn't found in arbitrary bureaucracy.. it's found in family and friends.
FN57 on scored.co
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Which would go against the teachings of catholics today. But yeah I would agree, if the high level concept of Christianity is correct, you should be able to worship in your own way, in your own communities, etc.

It's not a matter of if I want to, I don't, and I can't. A man existed around that time frame, who was talked about, there's a small historical record of it, but you turn me off pretty hard at the trinity, Jesus and God being different but they aren't but we're monotheistic but also the catholics have saints.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
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A homeless man who lived 2000 years ago is the foundation of modern society. And there is plenty of historical record.. Immediately following his death references of him began popping up. It wasn't just some tale a random guy came up with. And it certainly wasn't a lie, because the apostles underwent horrific torture and execution in the name of this man and never denied him.

Everybody has Saints. Saints aren't gods. Angels aren't gods either. The spirits are also not gods.

The three forms of God are like the three manifestations of the person. Flesh, heart and soul. Have you ever been on a jog and told your body "just one more mile..."?
Thenoticingcontinues on scored.co
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Have you read The Poem of the Man God?

JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I have heard of it but never read it.
KingSweyn on scored.co
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>There is no currently correct established Christian faith.

- most Christians for most of church history

They're sort of right. There are no correct versions of Christianity, only jewish lies.
JesusSupporter33 on scored.co
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What we have today is the result of atheism.

Moralism does not exist unless it is found in religion. Otherwise it will be degraded. Frankly, it doesn't matter what religion.. It only matters that the religion in question compels virtue in it's adherents.

Now, seeing that humanity has already *been* through this whole polytheism thing and the worship of the One Creator God has won through, I think it best to continue worshipping the God of gods.
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