He *never* said the hierarchy wouldnt be subverted to some degree, He simply said it the Gates of Hell would never fully prevail. One of the first 12 bishops literally sold Him out to be killed, and the Pope denied Him 3 times during His trial. During the Arian Crisis, over half of self-proclaimed Christians were open heretics, thats pretty subverted if you ask me. Of course, the Church still survived both, but there will always be trials to test people's faith.
> One of the first 12 bishops literally sold Him out to be killed
It was part of his plan, the church prevailed.
> and the Pope denied Him 3 times during His trial.
He literally told him it was gonna happen.
> During the Arian Crisis, over half of self-proclaimed Christians were open heretics, thats pretty subverted if you ask me.
They left the church! How can you say that the church fell when the church literally rejected the heretics and lived on?
I asked you to name a single thing that the Orthodox church has been subverted on and you didn't. Because you can't. Because we follow Christ to this day. You absolute outsider retard. Come join the church. Jesus loves you and he wants you to join the church. It's not complicated. You can join the good side, Gods side, right now.
>How can you say that the church fell when the church literally rejected the heretics and lived on
I never said the Church fell, I said it *survived* half the self-proclaimed Christians being heretics. The modernist crisis is no different, the Catholic Church will survive it.
Let me name some things to indicate that the Catholic church has obviously fallen and you can try to rebuke it.
Vatican 1 and 2, the infallible pope, who does meetings with all kinds of "religions", kissing their hands, letting whores dance all around him, saying that same sex couples can receive blessings, going against the council of Nicaea (Filioque), and letting the Jesuits roam around (the Pope is one of them). I could go on about smaller things all day but rebuke these to start with.
Meanwhile, the Orthodox Church, the Church of Jesus Christ and the apostles, survived muslim and communist oppression, and is still alive and strong. The real church.
It was part of his plan, the church prevailed.
> and the Pope denied Him 3 times during His trial.
He literally told him it was gonna happen.
> During the Arian Crisis, over half of self-proclaimed Christians were open heretics, thats pretty subverted if you ask me.
They left the church! How can you say that the church fell when the church literally rejected the heretics and lived on?
I asked you to name a single thing that the Orthodox church has been subverted on and you didn't. Because you can't. Because we follow Christ to this day. You absolute outsider retard. Come join the church. Jesus loves you and he wants you to join the church. It's not complicated. You can join the good side, Gods side, right now.
I never said the Church fell, I said it *survived* half the self-proclaimed Christians being heretics. The modernist crisis is no different, the Catholic Church will survive it.
Let me name some things to indicate that the Catholic church has obviously fallen and you can try to rebuke it.
Vatican 1 and 2, the infallible pope, who does meetings with all kinds of "religions", kissing their hands, letting whores dance all around him, saying that same sex couples can receive blessings, going against the council of Nicaea (Filioque), and letting the Jesuits roam around (the Pope is one of them). I could go on about smaller things all day but rebuke these to start with.
Meanwhile, the Orthodox Church, the Church of Jesus Christ and the apostles, survived muslim and communist oppression, and is still alive and strong. The real church.