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A common argument I see used to shut people down who talk about their experiences is that their statements are simply anecdotal, not backed up by studies or statistics and should therefore be ignored.

In the modern day, studies and statistics are easily falsified, the scientific community which was once occupied by good people has been hijacked by others acting in bad faith to trick you into thinking there is logical backing to their reasoning when actually there is not.

Do not allow others to persuade you that you should ignore what is right before your eyes.
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TallestSkil on scored.co
1 year ago 22 points (+0 / -0 / +22Score on mirror ) 4 children
“I met a jew that was nice to me, therefore not *all* jews should be hunted down and exterminated!”

This is why we don’t trust anecdotes.
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BeNotAfraid on scored.co
1 year ago 14 points (+0 / -0 / +14Score on mirror )
That's not an anecdote, that's a fairy tale.
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 2 children
For every anecdote contrary to the general rule, there's thousands reinforcing it.
a_rodent on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
Yes, trust your gut in who you believe, do not be persuaded by those who claim that your reasoning is flawed by "fallacies" such as ad hominem. For example, it is healthy to choose to trust the opinions of the members of your church rather than the opposite preachings of a degenerate homeless man.
Hoobeejoo on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
I believe what my ancestors say about jews instead of believing what jews say about my ancestors.
whatlike_withacloth on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
The plural of "anecdote" is "data."
BeefyBelisarius on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Yep, every data point is an anecdote.
a_rodent on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
To clarify, I am not making any point about whether or not you should trust others' anecdotes, obviously some people will be purposely disingenuous or maybe just easily fooled, but you should be able to spot this behaviour anyway.

My point was that you should form your opinions based on your own experience and not allow others to invalidate it with supposed studies and statistics.
RamboDrivesALambo on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
The response is "it wasn't being nice to you, it needed something from you."
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llamatr0n on scored.co
1 year ago 6 points (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror ) 1 child
It's not an "anecdote", the academic name is "Interpretive phenomenology".

no, I'm not joking

https://doi.org/10.1177/1609406920907254
a_rodent on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
I think the existence of this article presents another point. Many people might say that this kind of "research" is just a waste of money, however that is not true, there is value in this "research" to those funding it, in the form of the bogus "data" and "conclusions" it returns which is used to support their bad faith arguments
llamatr0n on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror )
there is also value in reporting lived experience, it isn't always agenda driven

my masters thesis was titled: how I became far-right

and my supervisor was a jewish socialist, and I still got a Distinction 1st Class

also not joking, then again, it was not in the US so perhaps that made a differene
covok48 on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror )
I hear this shit all the time. Statistics and “sources” are all government, msm, academics.

Yeah like I trust any of those Jews.
KyleIsThisTall on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Accounts and claims of the supposed so called hollowhoax are all completely anecdotal.
a_rodent on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
Yes, but I am not making any point about whether or not you should trust others' anecdotes, I am just saying that you should not let people use "studies" and "statistics" to trick you into disbelieving your own anecdotes.
KyleIsThisTall on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Just a response you should use.
Granite_Pill on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
I saw a piece of paper move by itself in my house, therefore my house must be haunted. I wont allow others to convince me it could be anything else when I saw it with my own eyes.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Unless something other than "haunted house" explains it; a breeze you didn't notice, for example.

But, yes, if you saw it, assume that it's true. Otherwise you're going crazy.
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Delon on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
if you can gather enough anecdotes to clearly see a pattern and predict further additions to it, then yes, it's obviously evidence. "Anecdotes aren't evidence" is there so outliers do not blur reality en masse. Problem is when midwits use it like a catchphrase
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Anecdotes are the first step towards statistics; you don't study the 13% unless they're doing 50%. Your brain tells you what's happening before you can prove it.
DragonsDontEatSoy on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Then they turn around and tell you to trust the "experts"… expert means someone who's experienced, i.e. someone with more anecdotes.
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
That's why you don't trust anecdotes from others, you trust what *you've* seen.
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RamboDrivesALambo on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
"yeah, cause my personal experience is less real than your evidence on paper."
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