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Supermatmike on scored.co
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Russia is going to come out of Ukraine with their military production firing on all cylinders, and a massive force of veterans with experience combating NATO hardware and tactics.
Once the CCP bricks all of the fancy F-35s and computers that run off Chinese chips and software things are going to get very ugly, very fast.
My best estimate at the moment is anywhere between 1-2 years, it honestly depends on a lot of variables, whether Trump or Harris gets installed next year, how the actual combat on the ground in Ukraine goes, and a lot of other things that are too complicated to write down in a single comment.
Ukraine isn't some GWOT forever conflict. Russia has clear, concise, and very realistically achievable goals for this war, and they are very close to achieving them. The ONLY reason Ukraine hasn't capitulated yet is the constant influx of cash and material from NATO.
>and a lot of other things that are too complicated to write down in a single comment.
I really don't think it's not all that complicated. I can already see it shaping up; at the end of the day this is just Russia's "forever war" that the zionist jews on both sides fomented, to be a very convenient meat grinder to chew up as many Whites as possible.
>Russia has clear, concise, and very realistically achievable goals for this war
And they're still at it what, a year and a half later? If they were this invincible top-notch fighting force then there's no excuse for them to not have steam-rolled that entire country in the span of a few months. Now obviously I don't buy all the ukie propaganda about Russia being this gigantic and continuous failure (because I know phony propaganda when I see it), but I also don't buy the aggressive pro-Russia stance & propaganda some far-righters have. I think Russia is weaker than they'd like the rest of the world to think.
>The ONLY reason Ukraine hasn't capitulated yet is the constant influx of cash and material from NATO
Well guess what, that's not going to end anytime soon no matter who gets installed this november. It's all a massive money laundering scheme; most of that money is ending up immediately back in the pockets of the jews and their leftist co-conspirators.
>I really don't think it's not all that complicated. I can already see it shaping up; at the end of the day this is just Russia's "forever war" that the zionist jews on both sides fomented, to be a very convenient meat grinder to chew up as many Whites as possible.
That's entirely possible, While I currently don't agree with that position, I will not debate it's merits either.
>And they're still at it what, a year and a half later? If they were this invincible top-notch fighting force then there's no excuse for them to not have steam-rolled that entire country in the span of a few months.
You make a fair point here, I completely disregard all Ukrainian reports as they are almost always bullshit to some degree, but I also have no delusions of the Russian military as being some super-powered nigh unstoppable force, they're an army of men just like all the rest out there, and men are fallible. They have also suffered quite a few notable setbacks (the sinking of the Moskva just to name one)
But something I think we should all keep in mind is that modern warfare by definition is a slog, Russia has always been adept at attrition warfare, and Ukraine is no different. Russia's doctrine has always been to grind their opponents down over time with force and numbers, Smash their positions with massed artillery until there is nothing left and then send overwhelming numbers of tanks and infantry to take the objective, It is an effective strategy if not a slow one, and definitely not a flashy one.
the pop-culture image of "modern war" in the present day is that of the Gulf War, a blitzkrieg of technologically advanced tanks and aircraft that frankly, I believe was an anomaly.
>Well guess what, that's not going to end anytime soon no matter who gets installed this november.
Again, I agree that is entirely possible, However, money and material only goes so far, and at the end of the day, short of a complete full-scale NATO intervention, Russia is going to keep making slow but steady progress until they can Bring Ukraine to heel, or there's no Ukraine left to bargin with.
Once the CCP bricks all of the fancy F-35s and computers that run off Chinese chips and software things are going to get very ugly, very fast.
When, in 20 years? Like when and how the US 'came out' of the middle east?
Ukraine isn't some GWOT forever conflict. Russia has clear, concise, and very realistically achievable goals for this war, and they are very close to achieving them. The ONLY reason Ukraine hasn't capitulated yet is the constant influx of cash and material from NATO.
I really don't think it's not all that complicated. I can already see it shaping up; at the end of the day this is just Russia's "forever war" that the zionist jews on both sides fomented, to be a very convenient meat grinder to chew up as many Whites as possible.
>Russia has clear, concise, and very realistically achievable goals for this war
And they're still at it what, a year and a half later? If they were this invincible top-notch fighting force then there's no excuse for them to not have steam-rolled that entire country in the span of a few months. Now obviously I don't buy all the ukie propaganda about Russia being this gigantic and continuous failure (because I know phony propaganda when I see it), but I also don't buy the aggressive pro-Russia stance & propaganda some far-righters have. I think Russia is weaker than they'd like the rest of the world to think.
>The ONLY reason Ukraine hasn't capitulated yet is the constant influx of cash and material from NATO
Well guess what, that's not going to end anytime soon no matter who gets installed this november. It's all a massive money laundering scheme; most of that money is ending up immediately back in the pockets of the jews and their leftist co-conspirators.
That's entirely possible, While I currently don't agree with that position, I will not debate it's merits either.
>And they're still at it what, a year and a half later? If they were this invincible top-notch fighting force then there's no excuse for them to not have steam-rolled that entire country in the span of a few months.
You make a fair point here, I completely disregard all Ukrainian reports as they are almost always bullshit to some degree, but I also have no delusions of the Russian military as being some super-powered nigh unstoppable force, they're an army of men just like all the rest out there, and men are fallible. They have also suffered quite a few notable setbacks (the sinking of the Moskva just to name one)
But something I think we should all keep in mind is that modern warfare by definition is a slog, Russia has always been adept at attrition warfare, and Ukraine is no different. Russia's doctrine has always been to grind their opponents down over time with force and numbers, Smash their positions with massed artillery until there is nothing left and then send overwhelming numbers of tanks and infantry to take the objective, It is an effective strategy if not a slow one, and definitely not a flashy one.
the pop-culture image of "modern war" in the present day is that of the Gulf War, a blitzkrieg of technologically advanced tanks and aircraft that frankly, I believe was an anomaly.
>Well guess what, that's not going to end anytime soon no matter who gets installed this november.
Again, I agree that is entirely possible, However, money and material only goes so far, and at the end of the day, short of a complete full-scale NATO intervention, Russia is going to keep making slow but steady progress until they can Bring Ukraine to heel, or there's no Ukraine left to bargin with.