Yeah, well, Ben can name Pat now because he knows Pat has retired from everything political, he no longer influences the White vote and is no longer a threat to jewish power. If Pat had a podcast right now, I guarantee you Ben wouldn’t be listing him. Seems almost like a sign of respect to name Pat in this list, because he knew Pat stood on his principles since the 70’s, always putting Americans first, never caved to jewish power, and called out the influence the jewish lobby had on Congress when few others had the balls to do the same. He’s honoring a worthy adversary of the jew.