Why did he knock nazism so much? Does he even have an accurate conception of nazism? And if monarchy, republicanism, and democracy are all considered compatible with catholicism, then why would national socialism not be?
Why do they advocate so strongly for nonviolence despite lots of saints demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that violence is often justified, and can even be obligatory in certain scenarios?
Yeah, he does have an accurate conception of Nazism. He used to be very pro-Nazi. The reason national socialism is not considered compatible with Catholicism is a papal encyclical by Pope Pius XI called Mit Brennender Sorge. You can read it here:
The reason we are advocating for non-violence in this episode is because we would get obliterated by the Military Industrial Complex. They have tanks, nuclear weapons, missiles, bombers, etc. and we don't. No state militias stand a chance against the national government's military, so it's just unrealistic to act like this is the case. We aren't pacifists; just realists.
Clearly you missed the part where the federal government, in union with all of their nato allies, spent trillions of dollars over more than 2 decades to defeat the backwards and poorly equipped Taliban and replace them with a backwards and very well equipped Taliban.
So are you saying that the CIA is going to give those of us on the "far-right" military arms and equipment? That's wishful thinking, and the same thing we are criticizing in this podcast. Believe what you want to believe. For those of us that live in reality, we provided practical solutions.
Americans already have mountains of military arms and equipment, and the cia arming of the Taliban preceded our fight with them by over a decade. They fought a guerilla war against us using a lot of improvised weapons.
True. They did so in their mountainous home territory that Americans knew little about, and only had to fight a fraction of the whole US military. If we have a civil war with small militias vs the Military Industrial Complex on US soil we would get crushed rather quickly. Our only hope of possibly winning would be if a rather large part of the American military defected to our side, and brought a lot of military equipment and bases with them. Right now, that doesn't look like it is happening.
I feel like that entire document can be summed up by paragraph 34, which begins "No one would think of preventing young Germans establishing a true ethnical community in a noble love of freedom and loyalty to their country."
It seems less a condemnation of the concepts of national socialism itself than a condemnation of Germany's particular execution of it, which sought to supplant the church and God with the state and the race. Germany wanted to pick their own bishops, much like China today.
"Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community – however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things – whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds….
None but superficial minds could stumble into concepts of a national God, of a national religion; or attempt to lock within the frontiers of a single people, within the narrow limits of a single race, God, the Creator of the universe, King and Legislator of all nations before whose immensity they are “as a drop of a bucket” (Isaiah xI, 15)."
Is that a direct condemnation of national socialism? Can it not be equally applied to any form of government or society, including monarchies and democracies?
It is a clear and direct condemnation of the concept that whites are somehow divine and that Christianity is only for them, as well as of neopagans who reject Christianity as having betrayed them.
In one way, it can: If any state puts the authority of the State above the Church in matters of Faith and morality, then it is condemned by the Church for doing so. Fascist Italy and National Socialist Germany were both condemned by the Church for putting the State authority over Faith and Morality. However, so was the United States and other liberal democracies for Separation of Church and State and putting State authority over Faith and Morals in those liberal democracies.
So any government can work as long as it submits to the Church on Faith and morality. Here a re some examples: The Holy Roman Empire was a monarchy, and it submitted to the Church on Faith and Morals. So did many other Catholic European Countries. The Republic of Venice in the Middle Ages and Ecuador under Gabriel Garcia Moreno were both republics, but submitted to the Church on Faith and Morals, so those were still valid Catholic States. Both Franco of Spain and Salazar of Portugal in the 20th Century were considered dictators, but they were still legitimate leaders of Catholic States because they submitted to the Church on Faith and Morals.
The key is the natural and national State must submit to the supernatural and supranational Church on Faith and morals, or it is disordered and should be condemned by the Church.
I saw nothing that even suggested a blanket condemnation of natsoc, ONLY where blood/ state is put above God. This could apply for literally anybody. Reading the Rhetoric of Mussolini and Hitler, it's clear that this was not intended in any case.
I think his reaction is due to a bad past with nazis in his action groups. I can't exactly blame him.. He want's explicitly Catholic action, not nazi Catholic action.
>The reason we are advocating for non-violence in this episode is because we would get obliterated by the Military Industrial Complex
*God hath spoken in his holiness; I will rejoice, I will divide Shechem, and mete out the valley of Succoth. Gilead is mine, and Manasseh is mine; Ephraim also is the strength of mine head; Judah is my lawgiver; Moab is my washpot; over Edom will I cast out my shoe: Philistia, triumph thou because of me. Who will bring me into the strong city? who will lead me into Edom? Wilt not thou, O God, which hadst cast us off? and thou, O God, which didst not go out with our armies? Give us help from trouble: for vain is the help of man. __Through God we shall do valiantly: for he it is that shall tread down our enemies.__*
Well, if you and u/Hullohoomans want to go ahead an raise up a grass roots army to go against the United States Military Industrial Complex, then have at it!
I, on the other hand, will keep doing what I am doing and fight the culture wars against the Judeo-Masonic Globohomo Alliance via writing articles, podcasts, videos, songs, and participating in public Catholic Action. I truly believe that we have to change the culture in order to bring on the Social Kingship of Christ.
Why do they advocate so strongly for nonviolence despite lots of saints demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that violence is often justified, and can even be obligatory in certain scenarios?
https://www.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_14031937_mit-brennender-sorge.html
The reason we are advocating for non-violence in this episode is because we would get obliterated by the Military Industrial Complex. They have tanks, nuclear weapons, missiles, bombers, etc. and we don't. No state militias stand a chance against the national government's military, so it's just unrealistic to act like this is the case. We aren't pacifists; just realists.
It seems less a condemnation of the concepts of national socialism itself than a condemnation of Germany's particular execution of it, which sought to supplant the church and God with the state and the race. Germany wanted to pick their own bishops, much like China today.
https://t.me/thecatholicstate/137
"Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community – however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things – whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds….
None but superficial minds could stumble into concepts of a national God, of a national religion; or attempt to lock within the frontiers of a single people, within the narrow limits of a single race, God, the Creator of the universe, King and Legislator of all nations before whose immensity they are “as a drop of a bucket” (Isaiah xI, 15)."
It is a clear and direct condemnation of the concept that whites are somehow divine and that Christianity is only for them, as well as of neopagans who reject Christianity as having betrayed them.
So any government can work as long as it submits to the Church on Faith and morality. Here a re some examples: The Holy Roman Empire was a monarchy, and it submitted to the Church on Faith and Morals. So did many other Catholic European Countries. The Republic of Venice in the Middle Ages and Ecuador under Gabriel Garcia Moreno were both republics, but submitted to the Church on Faith and Morals, so those were still valid Catholic States. Both Franco of Spain and Salazar of Portugal in the 20th Century were considered dictators, but they were still legitimate leaders of Catholic States because they submitted to the Church on Faith and Morals.
The key is the natural and national State must submit to the supernatural and supranational Church on Faith and morals, or it is disordered and should be condemned by the Church.
https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/1994kKUC84/x/c
I saw nothing that even suggested a blanket condemnation of natsoc, ONLY where blood/ state is put above God. This could apply for literally anybody. Reading the Rhetoric of Mussolini and Hitler, it's clear that this was not intended in any case.
I think his reaction is due to a bad past with nazis in his action groups. I can't exactly blame him.. He want's explicitly Catholic action, not nazi Catholic action.
*God hath spoken in his holiness; I will rejoice, I will divide Shechem, and mete out the valley of Succoth. Gilead is mine, and Manasseh is mine; Ephraim also is the strength of mine head; Judah is my lawgiver; Moab is my washpot; over Edom will I cast out my shoe: Philistia, triumph thou because of me. Who will bring me into the strong city? who will lead me into Edom? Wilt not thou, O God, which hadst cast us off? and thou, O God, which didst not go out with our armies? Give us help from trouble: for vain is the help of man. __Through God we shall do valiantly: for he it is that shall tread down our enemies.__*
I, on the other hand, will keep doing what I am doing and fight the culture wars against the Judeo-Masonic Globohomo Alliance via writing articles, podcasts, videos, songs, and participating in public Catholic Action. I truly believe that we have to change the culture in order to bring on the Social Kingship of Christ.
Yes me too.....