I've looked up plenty of videos and they are either totally different or seem too complicated. Does anyone here know the simplest way to make these old radiator fans charge a battery? I've already got them wired to power the blades but I need the opposite.
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Just go pull some alternators. They output way more power and sometimes have built in regulators.
I do not know how to get a fan to charge. It can be done. Theoretically the fan spinning in the wind should create a charge so I guess you'd have to capture this charge and deposit it into a battery without the charge of the battery turning the motor. Maybe a diode of some sort, so that the current will only flow one way.
I'm assuming you're working with DC. Hold on a minute, I'll draw up a diagram.
[Try this maybe.](https://oyvei.raccoons.space/2024/09/05/736231389bace27942f78cec2a851f82.png)
If I wire the fan directly to a 12v power tool it turns on, so its definitely putting out power already. Will the diode make the battery cease output to the fan?
Diodes only allow current to travel one way. So yes, the --battery-- (Edit: Diode) should make it so the battery won't power the fan. I'm not 100% though. I've never rigged something up with a diode. I'm more of a switch and relay enjoyer.
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All motors work on the same premise. There is an electrical coil.
In electrical fans, power is applied to the electrical coil to induce the load. The load creates a magnetical force that turns the shaft on the fan.
To use a fan for generation, a power supply like wind must be first applied to the fan blades to spin the shaft. On the shaft will be an electrical coil. Magnets must then be applied around the coil so that when it spins, it induces current that can be sent somewhere else.
It's already inducing a current, I can wire it to power a light bulb when it spins. How can I make it charge a battery without the battery just powering the fan? Is it as simple as placing a diode to the battery?
In a DC application, if the power is generated by a fan, then the positive would go to +, the negative line to the -. I would look up some solar generator set ups to see what they used to make sure a battery gets charged correctly. I know in those set ups, the power from solar goes into an inverter before going to the batteries. So that might be something to look into, buying or creating an inverter to charge your battery.
If you spin the motors with a voltmeter, you should be able to see DC volts. These are probably permanent magnet DC motors so the only way to regulate the voltage will be how fast you spin the motors. If you can't get enough, you can wire the motors in series to double the voltage output. The easiest thing would be to get a buck boost converter that outputs around 14 volts to charge your battery.
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I wouldn’t think that would work too well unless you were on a coastline or by some mountains, where there’s a constant strong breeze you could use to spin the fans almost all the time and fast enough to produce the electricity you’d need to charge a battery. I saw a dude in Australia who used an old motor from a washing machine, with a nigger rigged water wheel on the axel, he then went almost to the top of this hill where a small stream was, and diverted stream water from there through piping down to his trailer, where the water rushed rapidly through his water wheel…that setup reliably powered his entire trailer for about 3 years before the bearings in his motor/alternator finally gave out and had to be replaced.
I'm not trying to make an efficient setup, I'm just trying to make it work for the learning experience at this point. If I can get the electrical rigged right next I'll make some extra large fan blades to modify.
Each fan motor is essentially an alternator. If you put electric current into the motor it’ll spin the axel, if you put a crank on the axel, or any other means to spin the axel that isn’t coming from the electric input, it’ll produce an electric current that goes out the same wires that are used to power the motor
Does it have *that* much of a gain though? I know that alternators are build *explicitly* for electricity generation, but I doubt fan motors are built for a similar task.
Radiator fan motors are more than enough to charge a phone or light or something small. I would definitely recommend that he rig a fan to an alternator though. Since it's got a pulley he could even play with ratios to increase the speed of the alt.