Hello everyone!
I figured this would be a good place to start this petition.
First, I know this site has anonymous users.
That being said, there are users who are known, notorious jews, like u/SwampRangers u/CuomoisaMassMurderer u/TrancePhreak and others.
I would like for us to try to gather as many allies on Communities.Win and Scored.co to come together with us, and sign (i.e. comment on) this petition (i.e. post) / upvote it and get it in front of the Admins.
I think it will be helpful for newcomers to know who is a notorious jew by seeing a yellow star next to their username (it should be a pretty easy element to add for a front end developer, and could be toggled on, once admins and/or moderators decide someone is indeed, a jew).
That way, just like Europe in the Middle Ages and in Nazi Germany, the newcomers can know who to stay away from and ignore based on the yellow star.
So please help me in getting people from all different communities to upvote this post and comment on this petition to encourage the site admins to get the ball rolling on this initiative!
Thanks! And God bless!
You know, the author of the Epistle of Barnabas argues that the jews had the *entire* mosaic covenant wrong literally from the beginning. Coincidentally, the Epistle of Barnabas has been heavily de-emphasized in modern times, as has many apocryphal writings of the early Church fathers unable to be as easily subverted by the jews. *Coincidentally*, I'm sure.
Use your head, man. *Look* at the jewish people around you today and tell me that they have *anything* to do with the God of the Universe and are not directly under the employ of Satan.
Gentiles were the same. Romans 1 puts a fine point on it. If you believe we all descended from Noah, the rules against idolatry were clear - and all the disgusting things people chose to do instead when they pursued worshipping creation and demons were justly punished. There's a reason God wanted Israel to be completely separated from the nations He turned over to the consequences of their wickedness, so Israel wouldn't be complicit as well. Yet they did. He sets up numerous warning "curses" as signs to draw them back to Himself. Generations forget, and fall back into their evil inclinations. And the cycle begins again. Like that strong man, good times, weak men, bad times... you forget your history and you're doomed to repeat it. That's why remembrance in Judaism is classically hounded to death. Remember that time God chose to take you away from the sickness of idolatry and fornication and being all around wastes of oxygen? Yeah, maybe be grateful and do what He says so he doesn't send you back there. Oh, remember that time your ancestors weren't grateful and were disobedient and did all the bad things you were told would end up bad for you? Remember where they went? And remember how God only brought some of their descendants back out of slavery, AGAIN? Maybe stop following in their footsteps and do what you were told would make life good for you. It repeats, with fewer returnees each time. Third times the charm, eh?
God "cuts off" unfruitful branches and throws them into the fire, not sparing Jew or Gentile. Jesus says repent; return to faithfulness. The kingdom is coming. The ax cut clean to the root. He cut quite to the heart of the matter with his own household first... repent, believe, and abide in Him (obedience) or get cut off. The arrogant atheists, the arrogant ethno supremes, the arrogant lawless ones - all cut off. No greasy grace gonna keep you attached to the Branch.
No, I literally mean God never told them to do all that in the first place and the kikes just made it up, and then wrote a good chunk of the torah in their own hand but ascribed it to the Word of God, in order to shore up their internally fabricated man-made creation among the masses. Which is why Jesus accuses them of "making dogmas out of human precepts". The so-called "oral torah" is another great example of this.
Besides, you literally stated that unfruitful branches are cut off and thrown into the fire...yet the original covenant is somehow still valid and applicable to the jews? Who exhibited the *ultimate* unfaithfulness by killing God's only begotten Son?
I missed this point: I think Jesus point was more along the lines of condemning adherents of sects who instructed their students to choose to do what makes them comfortable in this life instead of what God explicitly instructed. It would be like following some heretical sect of Christianity bc it's a get rich quick scheme instead of one that is concerned with teaching truth and practicing what Jesus did. If the law of Moses was irrelevant, it wouldn't matter if you did it or not. But Jesus told some that they they were careful to do small easier things that got them noticed but didn't do the important hard stuff, when they should have been doing both without pretense. He was hardest on those who claimed to know what is required, yet neither did it nor lifted a finger to help others do their part. You're judged on what you do with what you know.
I think that's incorrect because Jesus delivers this line in the context of rebuking the traditional jewish purity laws with regards to washing ("making stone vessels clean on the outside yet filthy on the inside"). And he does this on more than one occasion. And makes tangential arguments to this such as rebuking the jews' laws regarding the sabbath. His entire point is *explicitly* against that of the "jewish law".
The Sabbath confrontations were less about strict traditions and more about interpretation and appropriate application of Mosaic law. There are explicit exceptions for forgoing strict observance of Sabbath rest in the Torah, and they're all variations on reducing suffering. Jesus points these out as support for his actions. He knows the law, and he followed it and taught it perfectly. He never says "I can do what I please" - that would make Him a false prophet and ineligible to be Messiah. Instead, He lets Moses defend Him, and uses the same interpretive method the Pharisees use -lesser to greater. If this lesser thing is sufficient reason to break Sabbath rest, how much more so this greater issue? He also pointedly did miracles that each point to the Sabbath rest in the messianic kingdom. Casting out demons, defeat of satan. Healing the lame and blind, people walk with God and see Him for what He is. Picking grain on the Sabbath, food will be plentiful. Since the Pharisees were the only sect who believed in the resurrection of the dead into the kingdom of heaven, He was making pointed works and explanations that they should have picked up on.
Plot twist: the Pharisees don't respect Moses enough.
"If you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe Me?" John 5:46-47
I just dont see it. Why would anyone make up rules they didn't have to abide by otherwise? Seems crazy to me lol.... like why not eat bacon if you had the option? Who benefits?
Why would they write so many negative things about their own people? Seems like a negative commentary on the failures of their leaders more than anything... why admit such? Of course, I'm talking about the Tanakh (the OT), and not the Talmud. The Talmud admits some failures as a lesson, but they aren't as forthright about it as the Tanakh. The guys who wrote scripture were brutally honest about their kinsmen who effed up and were constantly like, if you do what this guy did, your whole generation will be cursed too. Jeroboam took a huge one in the nads for all eternity lol
As for branches being lopped off, I think it's the case of willful rebellion. The rules haven't changed. There's still never been a sacrifice for that. The Hebrew calls it high handedness. God overlooked times of *ignorance* in times past, but never purposeful, spit in your face, Ill do what the hell i want rebellion. If God calls you via Christ into relationship with himself, and you reject Him with the understanding of what you are rejecting, or you consistently commit mortal sins with *full knowledge* of what youre doing and with zero intention to repent over the course of your entire life, pretty sure there's no remedy left for that. You can't sacrifice Christ again. I would say the stakes are higher for apostate Christians than Jews who have been blinded by God for a time (perhaps by virtue of certain rabbis wilfully obscuring the Christ and His identifiers in scripture, and those unwilling to seek Truth wherever He leads)
What does that change about the text?
>The problem I do have is with people who put a prominence on it beyond that of the NT
You have to read the first part of the story to understand the ending. Is that prominence or just literary comprehension?
>and people who believe that there's any kind of pre-Jesus covenant remaining with the "jewish people" of today
Uh... so if you toss out Abrahamic covenant, you're out of luck too lol... or the Noahic covenant... you're going ro need a bigger boat. Or David's covenant, then Jesus is just another dead Jew and again, you're out. If you mean Moses covenant, then that's just saying they don't have any right to the land. The New Covenant? That was promised to Israel well before Jesus. He initiated it, but it predates him by hundreds of years. Can't exactly toss that one out.
>or that God has not completely and utterly rejected them in favor of Christians for as long as time shall stand.
By Christians, I take it you mean all who rely on Christ for reconciliation to God, the Jew first and also the Gentile? Sure, all people everywhere stand condemned already unless they follow Christ. If you just mean just Jews in general, Romans 11 refutes that. Paul says they'll be more easily grafted in when God hits the Gentile cap and grants the completion of the new covenant when he takes away the sin of Israel too, by His unmerited grace, on the last day. Down to the wire.