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8 vs 12 gauge. Is there any practical difference in this setting?
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Ihatetheanti-Christ on scored.co
1 year ago 8 points (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror ) 1 child
There isn't any situation where a shotgun is better for home defense than an AR pistol
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror ) 2 children
Cool ... shoot through the criminal, the door, the wall, the neighbor's wall and your neighbor all in one shot!
Harambe on scored.co
1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
That's not how hollow points work
Ihatetheanti-Christ on scored.co
1 year ago 7 points (+0 / -0 / +7Score on mirror )
He doesn't know that, he only knows what the news lady on the talmudvision tells him

If he wants to run a 47 inch pump gun to pie rooms with an effective range of 40 yd once he hits the outdoors cuz he's running 1-1/8 loads of #8.5, thats on him, And he will still have full wall penetration and kill his children, but don't tell him that cuz he's not listening

Shotguns are garbage outside of hunting birds and shooting clays in my experience
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
And hit my children. Awesome
PopularCancer on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
even a #8 target load will go through 2 interior walls easily, with #4 buck going through 4+ walls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29uODuMv30

another test series, skipping to the relevant timestamp

https://youtu.be/C29mEJFFIvo&t=226

I doubt that a #8 target load would even stop a nigger if you did land the shot, unless it was a headshot
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Damn. The way my house is structured if I were in my room defending, id have 20 feet after my room where it would hit my childrens room
GoldenInnosStatue on scored.co
1 year ago 8 points (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror ) 1 child
depends on the defense, Shotguns are good for Nigger thieves

AR are good against badge niggers
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror ) 1 child
I am prepped for the second
Captain_Raamsley on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
a 12ga slug will incapacitate but not kill on contact with a decent vest. You need the high penetration of a rifle, and some hot load 5.56 green tip with a full length barrel is the way to go. Not sure if green tips are legal everywhere but in most states I think. I don't have any but I should probably get some.
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 8 points (+0 / -0 / +8Score on mirror ) 1 child
8 ga. is a bloody goose-gun and you won't have a shoulder ... or a wall.

use a 12 with #4. You'll saw anything in half, close range but you're less likely to overpenetrate into junior's room.
Harambe on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
To add onto this, you'll be able to carry way more rounds with 12ga and you are already 1-shot-killing. There's a reason why the military uses 12ga. It's the smallest you can go and still be guaranteed 1 hit lethal.
deleted 1 year ago 5 points (+0 / -0 / +5Score on mirror ) 1 child
SFAM1A on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
>CORRECT
Brannvesen on scored.co
1 year ago 4 points (+0 / -0 / +4Score on mirror )
Curb stomp every nigger you see to stop them from reproducing to a level were you need a shotgun to defend your home from niggers.
PolandCanIntoSpace on scored.co
1 year ago 3 points (+0 / -0 / +3Score on mirror ) 1 child
For those saying that an AR would be better - while you are probably right, I think in the heat of the moment you are likelier to hit the target with a shotgun.
PopularCancer on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
It really depends on your training and level of skill.

There are a variety of other factors that are being completely ignored also, rural vs. urban, whether you run dogs, cameras, alarms, outdoor motion detection/trip lines, magnetic driveway sensors and many other things.

If someone is in my house, they will have had to bypass or evade everything on that list, as well as drive past hundreds of easier targets and cut 2 gates and come 15 cattle guards down a country road.

It does happen to the Boer, so nobody is completely "safe", but the debate between 8 and 12 gauge as posted by OP is an academic circlejerk. If someone is in your house you fucked up in dozens of ways already and your choice of gauge isn't going to solve all those mistakes
FN57 on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
Depends on your setting and how far away neighbors are.

Whatever you go with put a light on it.
FlorianGeyer1524 on scored.co
1 year ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror ) 1 child
8 Gauge shotguns are pretty much only used in steel mills to blast away slag from the kilns.

12, 20, or even .410 with buckshot will be more than adequate.
BlueDrache on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
... lol. .410 buck ... that's like ... a slug for it.
wellallright on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
12 with #4 buckshot should suite ya perfectly
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groomemtroonem on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Easier and cheaper to load the 12
AuntieSamItis on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
If those are your only two options, 12ga is the better choice by virtue of ammunition cost and availability.

I do hope you have other options. A pistol caliber carbine would be much more useful for many reasons.
BlippiIsAPedo on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
What reasons?
AuntieSamItis on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
The biggest reason is that you will have the best results with what you train with. You will train with what you can afford to shoot. Pistol caliber carbines are cheap to buy and ammunition is cheap. If you're worried about over penetration, you can use frangible ammunition or tailor your ammunition to what you need. PCCs are light and simple to use. Also depending on your legal situation, you could use subsonic ammunition with a suppressor to protect your hearing.

The downfall of a PCC is that it won't penetrate body armor, but a shotgun won't either.

Bottom line is, whatever you get, go use it and get comfortable shooting, reloading, room clearing, and addressing malfunctions. Ideally find a PCC/ammo combo that malfunctions rarely.
Happygo on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Get a 9mm glock and 33rd of hollow points. If you want get a pcc that can feed these mags.

Or search a ps90 and go 50 rounds.
SFAM1A on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
\>PS90 for home defense

Just for the lulz
luckyfunk13 on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
at this point, repost with "should I ps90 in 5.7 or go with a Kriss vector for home defense?"

both, I guess? can you not do auto turrets? lol
SFAM1A on scored.co
1 year ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
I prefer the Yeetle Yees https://files.catbox.moe/xbluvq.jpg
SFAM1A on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
No
HEXEN on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
12 gauge
Tap_isarealboy on scored.co
1 year ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
12 gauge is common, 8 gauge is not.

Both are lethal.
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