There isn't any situation where a shotgun is better for home defense than an AR pistol
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Cool ... shoot through the criminal, the door, the wall, the neighbor's wall and your neighbor all in one shot!
That's not how hollow points work
He doesn't know that, he only knows what the news lady on the talmudvision tells him
If he wants to run a 47 inch pump gun to pie rooms with an effective range of 40 yd once he hits the outdoors cuz he's running 1-1/8 loads of #8.5, thats on him, And he will still have full wall penetration and kill his children, but don't tell him that cuz he's not listening
Shotguns are garbage outside of hunting birds and shooting clays in my experience
If he wants to run a 47 inch pump gun to pie rooms with an effective range of 40 yd once he hits the outdoors cuz he's running 1-1/8 loads of #8.5, thats on him, And he will still have full wall penetration and kill his children, but don't tell him that cuz he's not listening
Shotguns are garbage outside of hunting birds and shooting clays in my experience
And hit my children. Awesome
even a #8 target load will go through 2 interior walls easily, with #4 buck going through 4+ walls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29uODuMv30
another test series, skipping to the relevant timestamp
https://youtu.be/C29mEJFFIvo&t=226
I doubt that a #8 target load would even stop a nigger if you did land the shot, unless it was a headshot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y29uODuMv30
another test series, skipping to the relevant timestamp
https://youtu.be/C29mEJFFIvo&t=226
I doubt that a #8 target load would even stop a nigger if you did land the shot, unless it was a headshot
depends on the defense, Shotguns are good for Nigger thieves
AR are good against badge niggers
AR are good against badge niggers
I am prepped for the second
a 12ga slug will incapacitate but not kill on contact with a decent vest. You need the high penetration of a rifle, and some hot load 5.56 green tip with a full length barrel is the way to go. Not sure if green tips are legal everywhere but in most states I think. I don't have any but I should probably get some.
Curb stomp every nigger you see to stop them from reproducing to a level were you need a shotgun to defend your home from niggers.
For those saying that an AR would be better - while you are probably right, I think in the heat of the moment you are likelier to hit the target with a shotgun.
It really depends on your training and level of skill.
There are a variety of other factors that are being completely ignored also, rural vs. urban, whether you run dogs, cameras, alarms, outdoor motion detection/trip lines, magnetic driveway sensors and many other things.
If someone is in my house, they will have had to bypass or evade everything on that list, as well as drive past hundreds of easier targets and cut 2 gates and come 15 cattle guards down a country road.
It does happen to the Boer, so nobody is completely "safe", but the debate between 8 and 12 gauge as posted by OP is an academic circlejerk. If someone is in your house you fucked up in dozens of ways already and your choice of gauge isn't going to solve all those mistakes
There are a variety of other factors that are being completely ignored also, rural vs. urban, whether you run dogs, cameras, alarms, outdoor motion detection/trip lines, magnetic driveway sensors and many other things.
If someone is in my house, they will have had to bypass or evade everything on that list, as well as drive past hundreds of easier targets and cut 2 gates and come 15 cattle guards down a country road.
It does happen to the Boer, so nobody is completely "safe", but the debate between 8 and 12 gauge as posted by OP is an academic circlejerk. If someone is in your house you fucked up in dozens of ways already and your choice of gauge isn't going to solve all those mistakes
8 Gauge shotguns are pretty much only used in steel mills to blast away slag from the kilns.
12, 20, or even .410 with buckshot will be more than adequate.
12, 20, or even .410 with buckshot will be more than adequate.
If those are your only two options, 12ga is the better choice by virtue of ammunition cost and availability.
I do hope you have other options. A pistol caliber carbine would be much more useful for many reasons.
I do hope you have other options. A pistol caliber carbine would be much more useful for many reasons.
The biggest reason is that you will have the best results with what you train with. You will train with what you can afford to shoot. Pistol caliber carbines are cheap to buy and ammunition is cheap. If you're worried about over penetration, you can use frangible ammunition or tailor your ammunition to what you need. PCCs are light and simple to use. Also depending on your legal situation, you could use subsonic ammunition with a suppressor to protect your hearing.
The downfall of a PCC is that it won't penetrate body armor, but a shotgun won't either.
Bottom line is, whatever you get, go use it and get comfortable shooting, reloading, room clearing, and addressing malfunctions. Ideally find a PCC/ammo combo that malfunctions rarely.
The downfall of a PCC is that it won't penetrate body armor, but a shotgun won't either.
Bottom line is, whatever you get, go use it and get comfortable shooting, reloading, room clearing, and addressing malfunctions. Ideally find a PCC/ammo combo that malfunctions rarely.
Get a 9mm glock and 33rd of hollow points. If you want get a pcc that can feed these mags.
Or search a ps90 and go 50 rounds.
Or search a ps90 and go 50 rounds.
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use a 12 with #4. You'll saw anything in half, close range but you're less likely to overpenetrate into junior's room.