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1 year ago11 points(+0/-0/+11Score on mirror)4 children
Yes, native Brits are getting fed up and now we all know. What else? Many Whites have been arrested, some are being show trialed on live TV and sent to jail and the regime has successfully organized counter-protests. The regime is strong and the protesting Whites are weak. Why? They have no leaders, no organization, and most importantly, no alternatives for the current regime.
For any resistance to have any chance at success, it needs a militant arm and a political arm. These two arms are loosely connected with some plausible deniability on the surface. In reality, the political arm provides guidance and high level leadership to the militant arm, while the militant arm does operations like riots, physical removals, etc. The political arm provides structure, ideology and an alternative government ready to step in - this is very important! Without an alternative (shadow) government, the resistance can't succeed. This shadow government must establish sufficient legitimacy to be able to negotiate with the regime when needed.
The leadership of the political arm must consist of people with real names and public faces and be located in a safe location abroad. A government in exile, like during a war, because this is a war. Choice of an exile location is important. There are safety considerations and compromises it will force. It is important that the exilees stay on good terms with their adoptive home countries and do not break any local laws. If they are in Russia, then no overt NS ideology and only careful antisemitism. China could be more permissive, but potentially more unpredictable. Small third world shitholes, like Paraguay, could be even more permissive, but also more risky.
The political arm must consist of serious people. Crazies and extreme eccentrics must be expelled and ostracized. They must have the ability to attract and communicate with intellectuals at home and abroad. These intellectuals will provide apologetics and PR for the organization, while not having any direct connection to it.
At least some fringe elite support is necessary, unfortunately.
1 year ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)1 child
The Brits were used to shitskins and niggers since birth. They thought everything was under control, because the government was white. Now it has become clear that the monarchy are kikes and their political leaders are all shitskins. They brains must be numb, if they don't revolt.
1 year ago3 points(+0/-0/+3Score on mirror)1 child
Peasant revolts never work. Without leaders, structure, organization and fringe elite backing, they are just raging and expecting the current government to fix the problem.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
u/Elvis_Interstellar, why was the comment above removed? And the one effort post I made should be pinned, not moderated away. Memes and shitposts only get us so far.
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
You got caught in the automated filter because your account did not have any upvotes yet. I don't usually pin posts, but you can ask someone else who may be willing. u/GoldenInnosStatue and u/SFAM1A do.
Thank you. This topic needs to be discussed if we don't want to be stuck in an endless cycle of rage and impotent shitposting.
u/GoldenInnosStatue, u/SFAM1A what do you think, can we pin this for a bit:
https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/17txaZUBjY/uk-riots-are-a-failure-what-to-d/c
1 year ago4 points(+0/-0/+4Score on mirror)1 child
We need more serious strategic discussions like this. We need to wargame every scenario. Most importantly, we need actual people to step up and start executing a plan.
Yes, I submitted this first as a standalone post, but it got removed by the community filter (new account).
This needs to be discussed a lot more, and awareness should be spread among people that empty rage without organization is not going to bring any positive results. The organizing needs to be done correctly. For ex. PF is better than nothing, but it's not the way to go (it's a step in the right direction, but not enough).
1 year ago2 points(+0/-0/+2Score on mirror)1 child
That being said, however, most organized resistance begins out of people rising out of crowds and organizing them. Or an existing party becoming the vanguard party of an overall movement, collecting them under its wing, and organizing them.
The NSDAP was the latter. The NSDAP was a vanguard party. It existed for a long time before the upheaval of the Weimar republic reached its zenith. It became powerful after 1929 by becoming the vanguard party of the rioting German populace.
Both situations have a chance of arising. They also both have a chance of not happening at all. We'll see what comes out of this.
The NSDAP was a mainstream political party with strong support in various government institutions, including the military.
We are in a completely different situation. We are political dissidents with no political representation. A White Nationalist party is simply illegal.
We're under a much worse situation than Germans in the Wiemar republic. We cannot vote our way out of this.
This is why we need chaos and violence. And even communism can be useful to subvert the system. Because the priority right not is to bring down the system by any means necessary.
Taking over the system by peaceful means like Hitler did is not available to us.
1 year ago1 point(+0/-0/+1Score on mirror)2 children
This was the original post: https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/17txaZUBjY/uk-riots-are-a-failure-what-to-d/c
It got stuck in the mod queue for a few hours and I don't think it can be boosted anymore. I asked the mods for a pin, but they probably don't think this is worth pinning.
For any resistance to have any chance at success, it needs a militant arm and a political arm. These two arms are loosely connected with some plausible deniability on the surface. In reality, the political arm provides guidance and high level leadership to the militant arm, while the militant arm does operations like riots, physical removals, etc. The political arm provides structure, ideology and an alternative government ready to step in - this is very important! Without an alternative (shadow) government, the resistance can't succeed. This shadow government must establish sufficient legitimacy to be able to negotiate with the regime when needed.
The leadership of the political arm must consist of people with real names and public faces and be located in a safe location abroad. A government in exile, like during a war, because this is a war. Choice of an exile location is important. There are safety considerations and compromises it will force. It is important that the exilees stay on good terms with their adoptive home countries and do not break any local laws. If they are in Russia, then no overt NS ideology and only careful antisemitism. China could be more permissive, but potentially more unpredictable. Small third world shitholes, like Paraguay, could be even more permissive, but also more risky.
The political arm must consist of serious people. Crazies and extreme eccentrics must be expelled and ostracized. They must have the ability to attract and communicate with intellectuals at home and abroad. These intellectuals will provide apologetics and PR for the organization, while not having any direct connection to it.
At least some fringe elite support is necessary, unfortunately.
u/GoldenInnosStatue, u/SFAM1A what do you think, can we pin this for a bit:
https://communities.win/c/ConsumeProduct/p/17txaZUBjY/uk-riots-are-a-failure-what-to-d/c
This needs to be discussed a lot more, and awareness should be spread among people that empty rage without organization is not going to bring any positive results. The organizing needs to be done correctly. For ex. PF is better than nothing, but it's not the way to go (it's a step in the right direction, but not enough).
The NSDAP was the latter. The NSDAP was a vanguard party. It existed for a long time before the upheaval of the Weimar republic reached its zenith. It became powerful after 1929 by becoming the vanguard party of the rioting German populace.
Both situations have a chance of arising. They also both have a chance of not happening at all. We'll see what comes out of this.
We are in a completely different situation. We are political dissidents with no political representation. A White Nationalist party is simply illegal.
We're under a much worse situation than Germans in the Wiemar republic. We cannot vote our way out of this.
This is why we need chaos and violence. And even communism can be useful to subvert the system. Because the priority right not is to bring down the system by any means necessary.
Taking over the system by peaceful means like Hitler did is not available to us.
It got stuck in the mod queue for a few hours and I don't think it can be boosted anymore. I asked the mods for a pin, but they probably don't think this is worth pinning.