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> That just furthers the problem, in that case almost anything could be considered pornography.
That's the case with some societies. I don't think White countries would have that problem. Non-white countries do, however. It's why Arabic Muslim countries cover their women so much. Their men can't control themselves, and they ban pretty much anything that could cause arousal.
> If men didn't have porn and women behaved in a hypergamous way you'd end up with normal men committing rape, murder and suicide due to being able to have any sexual release.
I don't see how. I've never seen any accounts of men who've quit porn and suddenly developed the urge to rape. Rape is extremely uncommon in White men. Furthermore, the problems associated with porn and hypergamous women is related, and pushed by the same people. We can solve both by attacking the source, simultaneously dismantling all the lies they've forced on us (like porn and feminism).
> We shouldn't require all speech to be beneficial.
I never said it should, or even that's what happens. Even in a healthy society, not all speech is good and truthful (beneficial). However, that doesn't mean that it's in any way analogous to porn. People are mortal, finite, and imperfect. All of us will believe in something that's wholly or partially wrong, or incomplete. We can't know everything, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to share ideas. That's why merit, good debate, and free speech are so important, to allow people to disagree, to question, and to debate and challenge ideas, to better learn truth. However, there is no situation where porn is beneficial. I know you're suggesting otherwise, I just disagree.
> The only time the modern man gets an opportunity to so much as see an attractive woman is in porn. In the real world we're surrounded by morbidly obese middle aged non-whites.
Hard disagree. There are still tons of beautiful women out there. Granted, yes, Western people are getting more and more unhealthy. Again, this is caused by a central source (the people in power), who are poisoning us through our food, water, and medicine, which is making us sick and fat. And, again, if we fix one, we help to fix the other, but all these problems need to be fixed.
> Instead men would just resort to rape, human trafficking, prostitution, suicide, or engage in murder to vent their anger.
What kind of people are you hanging out with to think that this would result en masse from a porn ban? Do you live in a city? I don't know of a single person in my life who would act like that.
Also, women are only picky because government and corporatism (globalism) is replacing their need for men (through protection and provision), to subvert and corrupt the natural order and processes. Stopping the cause stops the downstream effects.
> So you also want to ban all forms of entertainment as well as those also offer nothing in return?
No, because entertainment can be healthy. It can tell relevant stories, teach lessons, inspire, pass on history, build camaraderie and community, inspire competition in men, provide fun outlets for exercise, maintain traditions, build consensus, give warning to bad ideas, etc. Most Western entertainment (TV, movies, literature, plays, music, art, games, etc.) was like this before globohomo corruption. Much of entertainment is now wholly destructive.
> Suicide is common enough though and even worse than rape as it reduces our numbers. Most men who "quit" porn still use it in moderation even if rarely.
Suicide isn't common, statistically. It's also only increased due to the corruption and emptiness of the modern world. Change things back to the way they were, and most modern problems would go away, including suicide.
> Being healthy is only one aspect, young whites are also rare.
Agree and disagree, somewhat. In certain locations, because of the Kalergi plan in action, White people are definitely more rare. I've seen the decrease in the White population in my own lifetime, in places I've known since I was a child. However, that doesn't mean it's impossible to find White people. It's one of the reasons why I propose people to move to better locations, with a lot more White people, to form ethnic enclaves, take over local politics, gatekeep the hell out of it, prepare for the coming collapse, and strike outward from there. I venture that natural instinct to be with one's own people is one of the reasons why White flight has been increasing since 1965. There are still tons and tons of places with exclusively White people, and there are millions upon millions of us.
> People are fat mostly because of insufficient shaming and not having the will power to stop shoving their face.
Agree. Lack of shaming and self control is definitely part of it. The other part is that most of the food we're offered as an option is poisoned, which is making us sick, fat, and generally unhealthy. We must shame people, inform them, and help them to be better people.
> This board would look down on what I eat as being canned goyslop but I still stay at a healthy weight with my sedentary lifestyle just because I eat small portions. Most people these days don't have the willpower to eat less than is required to sate their hunger but that's what's needed to lose weight.
We all prefer perfection in our ideals, but we should all be thankful for what we have. I'm glad you're able to keep control of your weight. I'm proud of you. Food habits and health are probably the easiest thing to lose control of. I still think you deserve to eat better food, but I understand. Finances, for one, can limit choice of food.
> Banning porn is attacking a downstream effect while ignoring the cause though. Most men only use it because we can't get wives.
On this, we agree. One of the reasons I abandoned the normie right, the Republicans, and became so incensed with the general public is because they repeatedly failed (some on purpose) to acknowledge the root causes, and perpetually attacked the ancillary effects (the branches of the tree). It's one of the reasons why I'm writing my two books, to get down to the foundations, for what's true and what's false.
Banning porn would be attacking a branch, but I contend it would still be good to do. It certainly wouldn't solve all of our problems. Even if we were to expel all the people responsible for the root causes, we still have a huge ordeal to change our philosophies and behaviors back to what works. It looks impossibly daunting, but I know we can do it.
That's the case with some societies. I don't think White countries would have that problem. Non-white countries do, however. It's why Arabic Muslim countries cover their women so much. Their men can't control themselves, and they ban pretty much anything that could cause arousal.
> If men didn't have porn and women behaved in a hypergamous way you'd end up with normal men committing rape, murder and suicide due to being able to have any sexual release.
I don't see how. I've never seen any accounts of men who've quit porn and suddenly developed the urge to rape. Rape is extremely uncommon in White men. Furthermore, the problems associated with porn and hypergamous women is related, and pushed by the same people. We can solve both by attacking the source, simultaneously dismantling all the lies they've forced on us (like porn and feminism).
> We shouldn't require all speech to be beneficial.
I never said it should, or even that's what happens. Even in a healthy society, not all speech is good and truthful (beneficial). However, that doesn't mean that it's in any way analogous to porn. People are mortal, finite, and imperfect. All of us will believe in something that's wholly or partially wrong, or incomplete. We can't know everything, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to share ideas. That's why merit, good debate, and free speech are so important, to allow people to disagree, to question, and to debate and challenge ideas, to better learn truth. However, there is no situation where porn is beneficial. I know you're suggesting otherwise, I just disagree.
> The only time the modern man gets an opportunity to so much as see an attractive woman is in porn. In the real world we're surrounded by morbidly obese middle aged non-whites.
Hard disagree. There are still tons of beautiful women out there. Granted, yes, Western people are getting more and more unhealthy. Again, this is caused by a central source (the people in power), who are poisoning us through our food, water, and medicine, which is making us sick and fat. And, again, if we fix one, we help to fix the other, but all these problems need to be fixed.
> Instead men would just resort to rape, human trafficking, prostitution, suicide, or engage in murder to vent their anger.
What kind of people are you hanging out with to think that this would result en masse from a porn ban? Do you live in a city? I don't know of a single person in my life who would act like that.
Also, women are only picky because government and corporatism (globalism) is replacing their need for men (through protection and provision), to subvert and corrupt the natural order and processes. Stopping the cause stops the downstream effects.
> So you also want to ban all forms of entertainment as well as those also offer nothing in return?
No, because entertainment can be healthy. It can tell relevant stories, teach lessons, inspire, pass on history, build camaraderie and community, inspire competition in men, provide fun outlets for exercise, maintain traditions, build consensus, give warning to bad ideas, etc. Most Western entertainment (TV, movies, literature, plays, music, art, games, etc.) was like this before globohomo corruption. Much of entertainment is now wholly destructive.
Suicide isn't common, statistically. It's also only increased due to the corruption and emptiness of the modern world. Change things back to the way they were, and most modern problems would go away, including suicide.
> Being healthy is only one aspect, young whites are also rare.
Agree and disagree, somewhat. In certain locations, because of the Kalergi plan in action, White people are definitely more rare. I've seen the decrease in the White population in my own lifetime, in places I've known since I was a child. However, that doesn't mean it's impossible to find White people. It's one of the reasons why I propose people to move to better locations, with a lot more White people, to form ethnic enclaves, take over local politics, gatekeep the hell out of it, prepare for the coming collapse, and strike outward from there. I venture that natural instinct to be with one's own people is one of the reasons why White flight has been increasing since 1965. There are still tons and tons of places with exclusively White people, and there are millions upon millions of us.
> People are fat mostly because of insufficient shaming and not having the will power to stop shoving their face.
Agree. Lack of shaming and self control is definitely part of it. The other part is that most of the food we're offered as an option is poisoned, which is making us sick, fat, and generally unhealthy. We must shame people, inform them, and help them to be better people.
> This board would look down on what I eat as being canned goyslop but I still stay at a healthy weight with my sedentary lifestyle just because I eat small portions. Most people these days don't have the willpower to eat less than is required to sate their hunger but that's what's needed to lose weight.
We all prefer perfection in our ideals, but we should all be thankful for what we have. I'm glad you're able to keep control of your weight. I'm proud of you. Food habits and health are probably the easiest thing to lose control of. I still think you deserve to eat better food, but I understand. Finances, for one, can limit choice of food.
> Banning porn is attacking a downstream effect while ignoring the cause though. Most men only use it because we can't get wives.
On this, we agree. One of the reasons I abandoned the normie right, the Republicans, and became so incensed with the general public is because they repeatedly failed (some on purpose) to acknowledge the root causes, and perpetually attacked the ancillary effects (the branches of the tree). It's one of the reasons why I'm writing my two books, to get down to the foundations, for what's true and what's false.
Banning porn would be attacking a branch, but I contend it would still be good to do. It certainly wouldn't solve all of our problems. Even if we were to expel all the people responsible for the root causes, we still have a huge ordeal to change our philosophies and behaviors back to what works. It looks impossibly daunting, but I know we can do it.