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Truth be told, that's not something I usually scrutinize in my guns. I will say, that in every way I've used it, the LaRue trigger is far superior to the milspec triggers, and I preferred the LaRue over much more expensive triggers.
> I'm a little spooky about two-stage triggers on "duty guns"
I know single stage triggers are the big rave in the gun community, but I actually prefer 2 stage triggers. Not sure why. I can just shoot with them better. Personal preference, I guess. I like the amount of play the LaRue gives (the "slack"), the pull weight, and the break is amazing. With just a few shots, you'll know exactly when a shot is going to go off. It's not too long or too short, too heavy or too light.
Just keep in mind that I'm by no means an expert on all the different triggers. However, the LaRue trigger is so good that I'm never going to replace it, and I'm installing them on any future AR build.
> They've always felt grainy and sloppy, almost like they're filled with sand. Nasty breaks, funky action, repeated malfunctions.
Hands down the worst gun I've ever shot was a Taurus handgun (can't remember model). It felt like every single internal mechanism wasn't machined right, and had sharp surfaces scratching against other sharp surfaces. The trigger pull and gun cycling was ridiculously awful, and it had several failure to feeds. Surprisingly, it shot straight, but it's the kind of gun I would get a refund for, and would never want to rely on it for EDC or any kind of life threatening situation.
As an aside, my EDC is a Sig P229 .40, which I love, and it surprisingly doesn't print with a good appendix holster (I use Tier 1 Concealed's Xiphos V2). I much prefer carrying my P229 over the P239 (single stack conceal carry version), because I can carry a lot more rounds, and shoot the full size much better. With how my hips are, it's almost impossible to not print in the 3-6 o'clock positions, even with a smaller handgun. I have a big barrel chest (got that from my dad) which makes my shirts hang in front of my gut and waist, which means I can conceal carry a full size handgun in appendix position without printing. The one disadvantage of appendix carry is it's almost required to get a ratcheting belt so you can tighten or loosen the belt when you stand up and sit down without having to undo it (I use the NextBelt Titan).
> That LaRue on the other hand... the price alone makes it extremely attractive.
Last I checked, their triggers were still under $80 (looks like they're $90 now). Huge deal for quality for price. Because of how popular their triggers are it usually takes them 1-3 months to ship. In any case, LaRue is a reputable and good company. Everything they make is high quality.
Funny you mention that, because I was thinking the same thing for possibly why I prefer 2 stage triggers. I've grown accustomed to the "tactile" keys for keyboards, most commonly used to describe the type of keys for mechanical keyboards (there are 3 variants). They have a short slack, and then a break/bump, where the key is entered. I type so much that it would be extremely difficult to get used to and become as proficient with a new type of key.
> Sounds a lot like my Geissele, but I definitely want to give that LaRue a crack. I tend to prefer a more "milspec" feel for duty guns, but for $90 I consider it an inexpensive experiment that might actually help me.
That's weird, I thought [AR15 milspec triggers were 2 stage](https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/single-stage-vs-two-stage-rifle-triggers-whats-the-difference/). Learn something new every day...which is difficult for me to do with AR15s. Several years ago I was sitting down on a Friday for a long 3 day memorial weekend, and said "screw it, I'm gonna research my AR15 build now". All of the men in my family have built their own ARs. It's like legos for men. I think I put in 40 hours of research just in that weekend, and probably another 40 over the course of the following week, on pretty much all subjects and parts for ARs. I can obsess over stuff and fall into a hobby pretty hard, but it's usually served me well. The one thing I didn't look into much were trigger options (my build was already expensive by that point, using mostly Aero Precision parts), and possibly making a piston driven AR, which I still want to do in the future.
In any case, the LaRue 2 stage trigger feels a lot like the milspec trigger I had in it, but just a lot better, smoother, and cleaner.
> Pretty sure it was one of the recall models that Taurus covered up, the ones where they could force into battery and fire if dropped...
The Taurus I shot was also one of the recall ones, for a different reason I think. It was owned by a family member though, before they got into guns, and I had to lightly but firmly explain to them how shit that gun was. Fortunately they don't rely on it for self defense any more.
> P365 SAS here! Full-size S&W .40 "cop gun" steel/aluminum backup, too. I've fiddled with Hellcats and XDSes, but I think Sig has some of the finest equipment out there.
Nice. I've been eyeing the 365XL. Looks like a good gun. I've preferred the .40 over 9mm for a while, but I guess with the improvements in ammo the differences on impact are small. It's also kinda crazy how much ammo those small 9mm conceal carry guns can have. Feels like woman purse black magic.
I definitely prefer full size or larger conceal carry guns, though. I've tried firing the small ones, and even the 9mm's have too much crack/snap to them. That, in combination with my giant hands makes them a lot harder to shoot accurately and quickly, at least for me.
> Yeah that's a no-brainer. That's half (or even a third) of the price of many of the Geissele sets. I'm not a brand loyalist and I'll use whatever provides the best price to performance ratio. Stuff like RISE drop-ins are cheap, but that's not a function I'm willing to gamble on.
Yeah, when I went shooting with work buddies at the range, and the guy with the Geiselle trigger told me how much it cost, it kinda floored me. I'm not rich, but my AR15 build pretty high quality, but I still felt like a poor living in a tent next to his AR-10 build (creedmoor).
> Picking up an MBT-2S as we speak, but with the flat bow, just as a matter of preference...Will report back, and thanks again for the recommendation!
I sincerely hope you like it. Everyone I've berated to get it (all family members so far) have loved it. Have fun brother.