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Partly because of crippling porn addiction.

Well then, we need to make sure men can still at least hope to own a gun.

A gun wont talk back and try and steal half of your life savings either.

Even if I agree mostly, what does that have to do with cumsooming porn in general, but especially on a regular basis as many do?

Yeah but in an urban combat scenario when it's you vs. a hoard of niggers or zogbots, I'd much rather have an auto and a drum.

I’ve honestly found 2 round bursts to be the sweet spot. TBF, I’ve only gotten to enjoy it on an MP5, but it was super accurate once you get the hang of it. You could hit a torso with both consistently at 35 yards and under, and enough at 50 yards that it was viable. I’ve also tried an frt trigger on an AR15 10 inch barrel, and was pleasantly surprised how controllable it was within 25 yards. I think modern shooting tactics and stances have evolved where it does a really good job of mitigating recoil/muzzle rise, especially in closer more urban type settings. With that said, adrenaline is a mother fucker, and I’d hate to see how much my groupings would open up if fire was being returned my way.

And then there’s freaks like this.

https://youtu.be/rX4Xr_PRpbo

Those, and an mp5, and a glock 18, and a some full auto AR trigger groups, and... the list goes on. You have some top picks though.

The fact tradcucks can't see it is a joke. Women are the problem here. What is porn of? Naked women fucking... How come the women are able to produce porn in the first place? That's the problem. Stop women from producing porn.

It's like saying the problem with central banking is that they announce interest rate changes. We should ban interest rate announcements. Uhhhh, how about we abolish the fed? You think porn is a problem. Stop women from being able to produce it.

You almost had me. Nice try.

Here's a long form comment I made a while ago about why porn isn't speech:


**Point 1 (the purpose of speech):**


Why did humans invent spoken languages? It was initially to communicate dangers (watch out for that snake/spider/lion/poisonous plant), and to convey helpful information (that plant is edible, that plant treats this ailment, it's better to build here, it's better to plant this now, it's better to hunt like this, it's better to make your spear point like this). Why did humans invent written languages? It was to teach our children this same information, and to pass on what we learned to future generations. The foremost priority of speech is to convey useful information. What useful information does porn convey? Nothing. People have been procreating long before porn.


What's the purpose of written languages, of teaching our children, and education in general? Is it not to improve over time? Is it not to enable our children to be better than we were, to know more than we knew, to reach farther than we did? Does porn help our children? No.


**Point 2 (marriage, civilization, and porn):**


What's the basis for civilization? It's the family, not the individual. While a strong individual is necessary for strong civilization, strong individuals almost universally come from strong families. Just look at the modern studies comparing intact households to single parent households. Every conceivable metric for success for the children is greater with the father present, with a 2 parent household.


To go back to the foundation: humans are sexually dimorphic. Men evolved to be bigger, stronger, more logical, and to do the laborious and dangerous tasks far from home/tribe. Men evolved physically and mentally to fulfill their role as protector and provider. Women evolved to be smaller, weaker, more empathetic and emotional, to bear and feed children, and to do the easier and less dangerous tasks within the safety of the home/tribe. Women evolved physically and mentally to fulfill their role as mother and homemaker. It's division of labor and specialization of the sexes, to increase species efficiency, to increase our likelihood of survival and success. That's why when one man and one woman come together to form a complete human that only then can they/we continue the species. That's why traditional marriage, between one man and one woman, has always been a staple of stable and successful civilization. It works within our evolution/creation to the very advantage it was designed to give, for everyone involved: men, women, children, and civilization.


Men's traditional role is protector and provider, and in marriage he gives exclusive protection and provision to his wife and future children. Women's traditional role is mother and homemaker, and in marriage she gives exclusive breeding rights to her husband, takes care of the home, and rears the children. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement between a man and woman. The children are given the most efficient environment for staying healthy, reaching adulthood, and becoming strong members of society. Civilization/the tribe gains by getting more and strong members, enabling it to continue in stability and success. It's the most basic bargain of civilization, and the species itself, and all parties gain from it.


Does porn damage this bargain? Yes. However, it goes further than porn. All sex outside of the bargain of marriage is destructive. It short circuits the brains of men to pursue images of women (porn), rather than women themselves, or pursue women that aren't his (prostitution), when none gain in the exchange beyond the sex act itself. It's tantamount to eating when you gain no nutrition from it. Eventually you starve to death. It's why prostitution is regarded as "the oldest profession". It's probably why porn will always exist in some fashion or another, because our sex drive is so strong, as it must be to continue the species. It's why "simps" exist, who pay and defend women online for nothing in return. It's why websites like OnlyFans exists. On the other side of the coin, it's also why women have largely used their new found powers granted via feminism to give government and corporate globalism greater power, power expressed in terms of protection and provision, the very role men traditionally provide. Government provides protection and welfare, and what women can't attain from government they work a job to provision themselves, replacing their need of men. This is why women have become so ridiculously picky in the Western dating market. However, the illusion of protection and provision provided by government and globalism is blind, fickle, callous, and corrupt. In the end, women will suffer just as much as men under tyranny.


The modern world is a corruption and upending of the natural order, which maintains civilization and the species itself. What's happened to the marriage rates, divorce rates, and the number of children per capita with the wide availability of porn? It's dismal. We're not having enough kids to replace our dying population, much less expand. This means our civilization is dying. What happened to men's ability and willingness to fight? It's almost non existent. Apathy is everywhere. It's why we haven't yet revolted from the tyranny we live under. We have fewer things worth fighting for, and therefore we're less likely to fight. While it's not the only consideration, porn has a heavy hand in it, and it's that destructive.


**Point 3 (Kant's categorical imperative):**


Kant's categorical imperative states that we should act in such a way that we wish that act becomes universal law, meaning everyone acted that way. It provides a good indication if an action is logical and moral, and if the actor is a hypocrite or not. It shows why murder is wrong, and so too is rape, theft, lying, cowardice, greed, laziness, apathy, ignorance, gluttony, prostitution, LGBTQ, and porn. Through the direct effects of an action becoming universal law, we can determine if society would improve or degrade. If everyone murdered there could be no civilization. If everyone lied, no one could trust each other, and there could be no civilization. If everyone was LGBTQ, we wouldn't have enough kids, and civilization would collapse. If everyone watched porn, we wouldn't have the sex drive to pursue meaningful relationships, we wouldn't have enough children, and civilization would collapse. Kant's categorical imperative teaches us both what is sinful, wrong, evil, illogical, hurtful, and destructive, and what is good, righteous, virtuous, logical, helpful, and productive.


**Point 4 (porn and art):**


The purpose of art is to convey beauty, virtues, lessons, and betterment of humanity. This is so with everything man creates: drawings, paintings, sculptures, buildings, architecture, tools, furniture, homes, stories, games, even ideas. We build and create things that are beautiful, that add to civilization, to inspire people to better themselves and to protect not just the art itself, but ourselves, our family, our neighbors, civilization itself. This core intent of artistry builds on itself over time in good people, where the art becomes better and more beautiful, and so too does man and civilization improve. This is an extension of the role of men in society. Not only do we protect and provide for our women in the bargain of the sexes, we often extend that role to society itself, to build a better and more beautiful world for our children.


Ugly art demoralizes and destroys. If everything around you is ugly, you will be demoralized, unwilling to better yourself, or anything around you, or be willing to fight and defend things worthwhile and good. That's why the Soviet's invented brutalist architecture. It's ugly and menacing. It's a way to weaken people, as a means to control us. Notice also that brutalist architecture is repeated in Western cityscapes, and the intent of brutalist architecture is repeated elsewhere in all other modern "art". That's why modern "art" is so degenerate and ugly. It's a perversion of the reason for art in the first place. It's why globalists have infiltrated almost all spheres of art creation. It's why globalists are the main purveyors of porn. All of it is meant to weaken and control us.


How can porn be considered art? While some may be more artful, the intent behind it is evil. We can see the intent by who makes the porn, who disseminates it, who defends it, and what the effects of it are, on individuals and society. This is why things like old Greek and Roman statues that show nudity can be considered art, while modern porn isn't. The intent is different, the purpose is different, and the effects are different. The ancient sculptures are beautiful, convey virtues, a pursuit of perfection and betterment of man, something worth defending. Porn is the antithesis of that.


For the purpose of this discussion on this platform, it could be argued that all nudity could be banned, as a safety measure. Beautiful art that shows nudity can be seen elsewhere, so it doesn't necessarily have to be allowed here. However, as others have pointed out, degeneracy and ugliness can be conveyed even when there is no nudity. A pedophile could just as easily post a picture of a lone fully clothed child, and it would be just as degenerate and wrong. The intent, purpose, and effects matter. One could question the difficulty in ascertaining such things. However, it's usually quite easy to see and determine once properly educated and experienced on the differences.


**Point 5 (porn as a means of control):**


How is porn used in modern society? Who pushes porn? Globalists use porn as a controlling device. It weakens men, and thus weakens society as a whole. It gives a worthless (destructive) outlet for men to "pursue" images of women, rather than pursuing women themselves through logical, natural, productive endeavors. It lets men give into lust, abandoning wisdom.


As a prime example, look at when Israel took control of Palestinian television. The Israeli government immediately began blasting porn on the channels they controlled, aimed directly at the Palestinians. Ask yourself: why would they do this? It's to control men, to weaken them, to make them less likely to fight back. Is this not the reason why globalists use porn in the West? Bread and circuses, all of it. Everything the globalists do is meant to empower themselves, or to weaken and control us, in every avenue they control, in every media outlet, in every school, in every curriculum, in every social media platform, with everything censored and curated, in every website, in sports, in TV, in ads, in movies, in comics, in "art", in architecture, in government, in large corporations, in our diet, everything under their control they use to weaken and control us, including porn.


It's their intent, their purpose, and their effects. It makes globalists, and their machinations, incredibly easy to spot.


**Conclusion**


Porn should not be allowed. It's not speech, it doesn't convey useful information, it doesn't teach, it doesn't help men, women, or children, it doesn't help us improve, it destroys the institution and purpose of marriage, the very foundation of civilization and the species itself, it distracts men, it inhibits us from good and productive pursuits, it robs men of their labors since they get nothing in return, it reduces the number of children, it reduces the number of marriages, leading more women into the arms of government and globalism, it makes men more apathetic and less likely to fight back against tyranny and evil, it's not art, it doesn't convey beauty, virtues, morals, lessons, or betterment, it demoralizes and weakens men and society itself, and it's used as a control mechanism by globalists and evil people. In every conceivable way, porn is destructive and wrong.

I wonder if he's an alt of HimlerWasRight88. They both have based takes, but are absurdly cucked on the gun issue.

You say that like its a bad thing, which is weird

Enemies can instantly shoot you with concealed and you dont have 360 infrared vision and lightning fast reflexes to pull faster as hes already pointing at you

the odds of that happening are much lower

US is way past the point where pistols could be banned, im talking in general terms

What a fine nigger argument