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I read the Koran years ago and I remember reading in it that if a Believer found himself in the lands of non-Believers (potentially oppressors) he could adapt the rules of the Believers to blend in and Allah would forgive him. I skimmed through and couldn't find it. When I try searching online or using AI it tells me that's not true but I'm 99% sure I read that in the book. Anyone know the quotes?
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greenspotbikes on scored.co
9 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Sounds more Talmudic.
greenspotbikes on scored.co
9 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
There are plenty of statements in the Quran that are similar to this one:

0 those who believe, do not take Jews or Christians as friends (for) they are friends among themselves. And whoever has friendship with them, he is one of them. (5:51)

The Chabad branch of jews, on the other hand, practically encourages jews to go out and integrate themselves in to the higher echelons of goyim nations. It encourages them to subvert their host nations from positions of authority.
Knight_Of_Saint_John on scored.co
7 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Sand rats excel at deception
genesisSOC on scored.co
4 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Reminder that jews wrote the quran and created islam.
BlueDrache on scored.co
13 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Taqiyya
CaptainTrouble on scored.co
12 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 2 children
Hmm, interesting. I swear when I read it, I had read a more obvious quote but maybe I remembered wrong. I'm wondering now if maybe it was the Talmud I was thinking of not the Koran, that had the more obvious quote.
BlueDrache on scored.co
12 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
From ChatGPT:

> What is the jewish concept similar to the Islamic "Tiqyya"?

If you mean "concealing or misrepresenting one's religious beliefs to avoid persecution," then Judaism has no exact equivalent to the Islamic concept of taqiyya.

The closest ideas are:

Pikuach nefesh: The principle that preserving human life overrides almost every commandment. This can justify hiding one's Jewish identity or fleeing persecution to save one's life.
Anusim ("the coerced"): Jews who were forced to convert or publicly practice another religion under threat of death, such as many during the Spanish Inquisition. Jewish law generally regarded them as still Jewish if they were acting under coercion.
Marranos (a historical, often pejorative term) or "crypto-Jews": Jews who outwardly appeared Christian while secretly practicing Judaism. This was a historical circumstance rather than a theological doctrine.

There is, however, an important distinction from taqiyya as it is often portrayed:

In Judaism, concealing one's identity is generally treated as an exceptional measure under duress, grounded in the duty to preserve life.
Jewish law also teaches that there are three sins one must not commit even to save one's life: idolatry, murder, and certain prohibited sexual relations. This means there are limits to what may be done under coercion.

It's also worth noting that taqiyya itself is frequently misunderstood. In mainstream Islamic jurisprudence, it is primarily a doctrine permitting concealment of one's faith under persecution, especially associated historically with Shi'a Muslims who faced oppression. It is not a general license to deceive non-Muslims, despite how it is sometimes described in polemical literature.

So the closest Jewish analogue would be the combination of pikuach nefesh (saving life) and the legal status of anusim, rather than a single doctrine directly equivalent to taqiyya.

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It's a jewish A.I. bot, so take that with a grain of salt, but I can't find much else.
CaptainTrouble on scored.co
11 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
https://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/taqiyya.aspx

The word that seems closer to what I'm thinking from the link is
Muruna not Tiqyya.

I was nearly certain, I read somewhere that supported the idea of drinking in a non-Islam land to fit in, in order to better promote Islam and "beat" the non-believers who are "oppressing" the Muslims.
steele2 on scored.co
12 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Let me get this straight, you either read the 602 page moslem qur'an in which Allah is mentioned 2,700 times ... or the 5,422 page kike talmud but you can't remember which you read?

# YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT
CaptainTrouble on scored.co
12 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
I read the full Koran but I've only read bits and pieces of the Talmud.
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