“The water” is a distraction. It’s completely meaningless. The point of “artificial intelligence” data centers is to exterminate you. Their existence in any form and under any requirements has to be opposed.
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The water in question needs to be distilled and then purified heavily before going into a chilled water loop and mixed at a 50/50 ratio with glycol. These are closed loop systems, meaning that once the system is filled, it does not use more. Which means that once a system is filled, it doesn't use anymore resources, which means the aquifers refill.
Where does this protect the water thing come from?
Where does this protect the water thing come from?
They aren't using any closed-loop systems. That's the point. Too expensive.
Explain to me how they're going to cool a data center without a carefully controlled glycol mix?
Once-through water cooling.
It’s to get rid of all the heat from the facility, not literally run river water over a GPU lol.
It’s to get rid of all the heat from the facility, not literally run river water over a GPU lol.
It is suicidal to run untreated water thru a chiller to reach 40F. That is the temperature the water needs to be to flow into CRAH units to chill a data center. At above 48F, water is no longer able to work against the heat load in a data center. If a datacenter reaches 80F, the hard drives start failing as the temperature of the air is not able to offset the heat load.
How do you think cooling systems work in datacenters?
How do you think cooling systems work in datacenters?
None of this is relevant, I don't even know what point you're trying to make.
Jewgle's datacenters use water, period. By their own admission:
> In 2024, we consumed a total of approximately 8.1 billion gallons (31 billion liters
or 31 million cubic meters) of water across our data centers (excluding those operated by third parties)
https://www.gstatic.com/gumdrop/sustainability/google-2025-environmental-report.pdf
Jewgle's datacenters use water, period. By their own admission:
> In 2024, we consumed a total of approximately 8.1 billion gallons (31 billion liters
or 31 million cubic meters) of water across our data centers (excluding those operated by third parties)
https://www.gstatic.com/gumdrop/sustainability/google-2025-environmental-report.pdf
Where does the closed loop dump it's heat?
The cheap solution is a heat exchanger to normal water fed into an evaporative cooling tower.
The cheap solution is a heat exchanger to normal water fed into an evaporative cooling tower.
That water needs to be treated and screened to prevent damage to the other equipment.
There is a secondary loop which is not closed. It only has to run through a heat exchanger which doesn't have special requirements.
If that's the configuration, why would they not be set up for a geothermal heat pump configuration where they could dump the water in a different end of the aquifier?
> Where does this protect the water thing come from?
Google's own admission: https://www.gstatic.com/gumdrop/sustainability/google-2025-environmental-report.pdf
> To operate smoothly, these facilities rely on cooling systems that frequently use water due to its energy
efficiency. This dependency highlights a critical balance between technological needs and responsible
environmental stewardship. In 2024, we consumed a total of approximately 8.1 billion gallons (31 billion liters
or 31 million cubic meters) of water across our data centers
Stop spreading retardation.
Google's own admission: https://www.gstatic.com/gumdrop/sustainability/google-2025-environmental-report.pdf
> To operate smoothly, these facilities rely on cooling systems that frequently use water due to its energy
efficiency. This dependency highlights a critical balance between technological needs and responsible
environmental stewardship. In 2024, we consumed a total of approximately 8.1 billion gallons (31 billion liters
or 31 million cubic meters) of water across our data centers
Stop spreading retardation.
these centers do use combined cycle power plants as a power source, which do use water. its not the equipment itself that requires the water, but the power plant. However there are systems now adays that minimize the use of water, that recycle the water and produce solid waste instead.
So the problem is not the datacenter, it's the lack of power generation.
its not the "lack" of power generation, its that datacenters have their own private power sources, which do require water, but that water is not "consumed" as the general public thinks. Its cycled through multiple times. either way something is amiss with the general public sentiment vs reality. I dont know which is correct.
This is a misconception. The initial data centers for AI were open loop systems because that was more efficient but the latest chips are so hot that open loop can't cool them. Elon Musk's Collosus Center is a hybrid of both. Microsoft and Oracle both have plans for massive data centers that are closed loop. Meta has moved to hybrid systems. No new data center being built is open loop only.
Honestly, boomers are just idiotic nimbys who watched something on CNN and then got mad and it's sad to see many people on here falling for it also.
The issue is "who pays for it". As long as these companies pay for the water rather than the public subsidizing it for them then it's all good.
Honestly, boomers are just idiotic nimbys who watched something on CNN and then got mad and it's sad to see many people on here falling for it also.
The issue is "who pays for it". As long as these companies pay for the water rather than the public subsidizing it for them then it's all good.
Did you watch the video? The man builds data centers. He owns data centers... I think I'll listen to him.
They are rezoning agriculture land and land right up against residential neighborhoods. Extremely close to homes that have existed there 100 years
Do they own the land? If the community doesn't like it they could always offer to purchase the land at 10x the value to stop any construction on it.
They secretly accumulate the land using shell companies. It's really sneaky. Lots of people protesting the data centers don't even know who to sue. The llc is just a realty broker and the names of data center acquirer is secret up to and past approvals permits etc
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