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>I disagree. It has shown that the US always had the power to act in its own self-interest but the government has never done so.
How have we acted in our own self-interest at all? How did this advantage the US? If the brokered deal by Pakistan, which the US is negotiating, goes through, America is directly put into a worse position.
>Trump used this opportunity to explain to the world why NATO is pointless and why we won't be supporting them anymore.
The entire system of nato is built to make Europe reliant on American military aid by design, because America doesn't want another hitler or mussolini and is actively preventing this by kneecapping the European militaries by spoonfeeding them against a threat. Nato could be much stronger than it is, because it's set up to be weaker than it theoretically could be. Trump doesn't actually want a re-armed Europe, he is just loud and demented (literally).
>Fantasy. Europe has already fallen to muslim invaders. No one is rearming themselves in Europe. They are not prepared for any kind of war, let alone a civil / religious war, which is likely inevitable.
I live in Europe, "fallen to Muslim invaders" is mostly dooming. It hasnt fallen yet, and a majority of people are still white. Europe should safeguard itself, of course, but claiming all is lost is facetous. America is less than half white in its younger generations, even the worst-off parts of Europe are whiter than America as a whole, by a wide margin. America will probably end up less white than Brazil is, by percentages, and soon. By that logic, how much more prepared are Americans *actually*? Not very, not by a fucking long shot.
>Completely false. We smoked all the chinese tech that Iran had.
>It is China who doesn't have a leg to stand on and cannot threaten us with their military.
Iran has decrepit copies of Chinese tech and directly Chinese tech from the 80s and 90s. Sayyad and HQ-2J missiles (they are the same. Iranian and Chinese variants likewise). Iran did not have HQ-22B systems, which is china's newest SAM. There was no proof that they had HQ-9B systems either, despite claims that they did have a couple of them, no hard evidence exists. China has replaced their entire HQ-2J fleet with these SAMs. We still don't know how they operate. The difference between last-gen air defense and no air defense at all is functionally non-existent. The role of Chinese Air defense was vertically non-existent anyways because iran barely has any Chinese air defense besides old HQ-2Js and copies of them. Iran had zero chinese MANPADS at all, period. Almost everything iran has/had is homemade and reverse engineered from ancient chinese and american gear. China's modern SAM capability has never been proven or disproven. However, Israel and the gulf states have brand new shit that was blown up by cheap iranian drones and missiles. So there you go. Iran's victory against modern patriot and THAAD systems is much more significant than ZOG victories against reverse engineered chinese dinosaurs.
>and the fact that Trump took out Venezuela on the eve of their meeting with China...
We took out Venezuela because they weren't israel-approved and they were the easiest non-israel approved country to have a side-quest adventure against. That's the only reason. Nobody in Washington gives a fuck about how bad Maduro was, America has backed much worse people. They only cared because ZOG does.
>We are looking at American Empire 2026 arising.
No, we are destroying ourselves for israel
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
How have we acted in our own self-interest at all? How did this advantage the US? If the brokered deal by Pakistan, which the US is negotiating, goes through, America is directly put into a worse position.
>Trump used this opportunity to explain to the world why NATO is pointless and why we won't be supporting them anymore.
The entire system of nato is built to make Europe reliant on American military aid by design, because America doesn't want another hitler or mussolini and is actively preventing this by kneecapping the European militaries by spoonfeeding them against a threat. Nato could be much stronger than it is, because it's set up to be weaker than it theoretically could be. Trump doesn't actually want a re-armed Europe, he is just loud and demented (literally).
>Fantasy. Europe has already fallen to muslim invaders. No one is rearming themselves in Europe. They are not prepared for any kind of war, let alone a civil / religious war, which is likely inevitable.
I live in Europe, "fallen to Muslim invaders" is mostly dooming. It hasnt fallen yet, and a majority of people are still white. Europe should safeguard itself, of course, but claiming all is lost is facetous. America is less than half white in its younger generations, even the worst-off parts of Europe are whiter than America as a whole, by a wide margin. America will probably end up less white than Brazil is, by percentages, and soon. By that logic, how much more prepared are Americans *actually*? Not very, not by a fucking long shot.
>Completely false. We smoked all the chinese tech that Iran had.
>It is China who doesn't have a leg to stand on and cannot threaten us with their military.
Iran has decrepit copies of Chinese tech and directly Chinese tech from the 80s and 90s. Sayyad and HQ-2J missiles (they are the same. Iranian and Chinese variants likewise). Iran did not have HQ-22B systems, which is china's newest SAM. There was no proof that they had HQ-9B systems either, despite claims that they did have a couple of them, no hard evidence exists. China has replaced their entire HQ-2J fleet with these SAMs. We still don't know how they operate. The difference between last-gen air defense and no air defense at all is functionally non-existent. The role of Chinese Air defense was vertically non-existent anyways because iran barely has any Chinese air defense besides old HQ-2Js and copies of them. Iran had zero chinese MANPADS at all, period. Almost everything iran has/had is homemade and reverse engineered from ancient chinese and american gear. China's modern SAM capability has never been proven or disproven. However, Israel and the gulf states have brand new shit that was blown up by cheap iranian drones and missiles. So there you go. Iran's victory against modern patriot and THAAD systems is much more significant than ZOG victories against reverse engineered chinese dinosaurs.
>and the fact that Trump took out Venezuela on the eve of their meeting with China...
We took out Venezuela because they weren't israel-approved and they were the easiest non-israel approved country to have a side-quest adventure against. That's the only reason. Nobody in Washington gives a fuck about how bad Maduro was, America has backed much worse people. They only cared because ZOG does.
>We are looking at American Empire 2026 arising.
No, we are destroying ourselves for israel
Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed