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posted 9 hours ago by Prof_Chaos on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +6Score on mirror )
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devotech2 on scored.co
7 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
The iran war has proven the US to more or less be a complete laughing stock. That and the fact that America is losing nato and Europe is starting to begrudgingly re-arm itself.

America's number one rival, china, at this point would probably smoke the US in a war. All the THAAD and Patriot missile systems bypassed within a few weeks, pretty solid levels of iranian confirmed kills on US aircraft (given how much weaker artesh and the IRGC are on paper), american and Israeli drones shot out of the sky like piñatas.

Okay, well, it seems obvious that the enormous US defense budget is mostly being spent on overpaying military contractors for random bullshit because they have a monopoly on it. China is able to achieve greater levels of growth with less than half of the expenditure because their MIC is state-owned. What does this mean? It means that America depletes everything they have, which is all far more expensive than it should be, and lacks the competent industrial force to create more of them in a timely manner. China can spit out a million missiles, drones, etc of the same quality within that time frame and with half the price. Even iran can do this. America cannot. And this has been proven.

The American military is sliding down hard on the world stage and its because it has gotten entrapped in foreign adventures (for no benefit of America) and the MIC asks for utterly exorbitant prices for every iota of it down to small parts replacements. If it cannot win a war with Iran, and if it is heavily depleted by a war with Iran, which is far weaker than it, what does that say about their standing against other (actual) powers? Granted, ir would be a given that America would lose the guerilla war against Iran, *anyone* would, but America has effectively lost the missile/drone/airstrike war with Iran before it even turned into a guerilla war. This has never happened before, that was something that the US actually did exceptionally well in the past (desert storm/shield, invasion of Grenada, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan in 2001, et al). So what does this mean now that the US has completely failed in what its actually good at? Granted, most of the nations listed were weak, but Iraq wasn't weak. Iraq had a very good air defense network (contrary to popular belief), Iraq had decent pilots and comparatively more modern systems than iran currently has. But the US military was good enough at that time to blitz Iraq (until the guerilla war, not America's strongsuit). Has the competency of the military dwindled that much?

Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
zk3hf9dB on scored.co
6 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 3 children
> I consider that Israel must be destroyed

I disagree on one point alone. Eventually, we will want to colonize Israel with our descendants. But I agree that the nation of Israel needs to be destroyed. And the wicked people who live there need to go away.

> iran war has proven the US to more or less be a complete laughing stock

I disagree. It has shown that the US always had the power to act in its own self-interest but the government has never done so.

> America is losing nato

NATO expired back in the 90s, once the Berlin Wall fell.

Honestly, we should've never agreed to it. Let USSR take all of Europe. They probably would've done a better job at preserving the nations and cultures there than the European governments did.

Trump used this opportunity to explain to the world why NATO is pointless and why we won't be supporting them anymore.

> Europe is starting to begrudgingly re-arm itself.

Fantasy. Europe has already fallen to muslim invaders. No one is rearming themselves in Europe. They are not prepared for any kind of war, let alone a civil / religious war, which is likely inevitable.

> America's number one rival, china, at this point would probably smoke the US in a war

Completely false. We smoked all the chinese tech that Iran had.

It is China who doesn't have a leg to stand on and cannot threaten us with their military.

> American tech failing in the ME

It explained to the American people that we MUST secure our borders -- not just with Mexico and Canada, but the entire American Continent. NO ONE from Europe or Asia must be allowed to have a foothold here, not one square inch. We MUST build an impenetrable wall around our continent.

Taken together with the recent announcements of the US returning to WWII policies regarding the security of the American continents, and the fact that Trump took out Venezuela on the eve of their meeting with China...

We are looking at American Empire 2026 arising.

If we take this opportunity to clean up our own population, we could establish a firm grip on not just the American Continent but the entire world. We MUST take this opportunity now.
devotech2 on scored.co
6 hours ago 2 points (+0 / -0 / +2Score on mirror )
>I disagree. It has shown that the US always had the power to act in its own self-interest but the government has never done so.

How have we acted in our own self-interest at all? How did this advantage the US? If the brokered deal by Pakistan, which the US is negotiating, goes through, America is directly put into a worse position.

>Trump used this opportunity to explain to the world why NATO is pointless and why we won't be supporting them anymore.

The entire system of nato is built to make Europe reliant on American military aid by design, because America doesn't want another hitler or mussolini and is actively preventing this by kneecapping the European militaries by spoonfeeding them against a threat. Nato could be much stronger than it is, because it's set up to be weaker than it theoretically could be. Trump doesn't actually want a re-armed Europe, he is just loud and demented (literally).

>Fantasy. Europe has already fallen to muslim invaders. No one is rearming themselves in Europe. They are not prepared for any kind of war, let alone a civil / religious war, which is likely inevitable.

I live in Europe, "fallen to Muslim invaders" is mostly dooming. It hasnt fallen yet, and a majority of people are still white. Europe should safeguard itself, of course, but claiming all is lost is facetous. America is less than half white in its younger generations, even the worst-off parts of Europe are whiter than America as a whole, by a wide margin. America will probably end up less white than Brazil is, by percentages, and soon. By that logic, how much more prepared are Americans *actually*? Not very, not by a fucking long shot.

>Completely false. We smoked all the chinese tech that Iran had.

>It is China who doesn't have a leg to stand on and cannot threaten us with their military.

Iran has decrepit copies of Chinese tech and directly Chinese tech from the 80s and 90s. Sayyad and HQ-2J missiles (they are the same. Iranian and Chinese variants likewise). Iran did not have HQ-22B systems, which is china's newest SAM. There was no proof that they had HQ-9B systems either, despite claims that they did have a couple of them, no hard evidence exists. China has replaced their entire HQ-2J fleet with these SAMs. We still don't know how they operate. The difference between last-gen air defense and no air defense at all is functionally non-existent. The role of Chinese Air defense was vertically non-existent anyways because iran barely has any Chinese air defense besides old HQ-2Js and copies of them. Iran had zero chinese MANPADS at all, period. Almost everything iran has/had is homemade and reverse engineered from ancient chinese and american gear. China's modern SAM capability has never been proven or disproven. However, Israel and the gulf states have brand new shit that was blown up by cheap iranian drones and missiles. So there you go. Iran's victory against modern patriot and THAAD systems is much more significant than ZOG victories against reverse engineered chinese dinosaurs.

>and the fact that Trump took out Venezuela on the eve of their meeting with China...

We took out Venezuela because they weren't israel-approved and they were the easiest non-israel approved country to have a side-quest adventure against. That's the only reason. Nobody in Washington gives a fuck about how bad Maduro was, America has backed much worse people. They only cared because ZOG does.

>We are looking at American Empire 2026 arising.

No, we are destroying ourselves for israel

Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed

DrySharkPussy on scored.co
3 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror )
Metric fuck-ton of cope.
BlueDrache on scored.co
2 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Holy shit, you're so far up Trump's ass you can tell what he had for breakfast.
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