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posted 17 hours ago by disusekid on scored.co (+0 / -0 / +54Score on mirror )
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ScallionPancake on scored.co
10 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 2 children
> The Ukraine banned the actual orthodox church of Ukraine

You can't ban something that actually is doing something to protect it's society and to do so you need power. Because Christianity had no power.

It just proves his point.
devotech2 on scored.co
10 hours ago 1 point (+0 / -0 / +1Score on mirror ) 1 child
Well, my entire point in the first place is that orthodoxy rarely does and has never done anything at all to "protect society", except on moral issues, because they view that entirely as being the affair of heads of state. Except, as I said, Kirill who talks about these things all the time. The reason why orthodoxy does not intervene in anything secular is because the eastern Roman empire survived and the western Roman empire did not, the Latin rite had to carve out its existence, its legitimacy, and unite separated tribes, whereas the eastern church (neither were in schism yet) had an existing state, a powerful one, that supported its proliferation. So the church never needed to do anything at all, everything was naturally handled by political leaders and this was the same in Russia (until tsar Peter at least).

Moreover, the Ukraine had already been undergoing a decade of "de-Russification" at that point. It didn't exactly take much for the ukrainian authorities to get the people to submit to doing this when they had already primed them for supporting anything as long as it's against Russia (and Ukrainians are really like this. You could tell them to stab themselves in the eyes as a protest against Russia and they most likely would do so). And Ukrainians have been like this since before the war even began.

The main issue with orthodoxy is this: it is far too insular and unadapting (ironically the same reason its still relatively un-jewed). Its desire to stay out of all secular affairs worked perfectly well for them in the past when they had heads of state that supported them, were orthodox, and enacted laws that the church agreed with. It even ensured their unlikely survival during the USSR, with the CPSU eventually viewing the patriarchate as an effective non-issue, but now? The church should take a more active role in political matters. I myself pointed out the same flaw that you are.

Furthermore, I consider that Israel must be destroyed
WeedleTLiar on scored.co
9 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
>the Ukraine had already been undergoing a decade of "de-Russification" at that point

This sounds an awful lot like how Canada builds it's culture on not being American.
cosmicscrotum on scored.co
5 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Has either denounced the fake holocaust?
ScallionPancake on scored.co
4 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
As far as I knew, the only official entity with any real power that has even questioned the holohoax was Iran and I think it was Ahmadinejad when he was their foreign minister. I remember it being a HUGE deal on plebbit with a lot of normies crying about it.
cosmicscrotum on scored.co
3 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Assad was vocal. But the Islamic media has been cooperative.
ScallionPancake on scored.co
2 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 ) 1 child
Assad called out the holohoax? I had no idea..
cosmicscrotum on scored.co
2 hours ago 0 points (+0 / -0 )
Yep. Now the poor sonofabitch is in Russian where questioning the Holohoax is illegal and books questioning Jews like those written by Solzhenitsyn and Henry Ford are banned.
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